Vaccine

what-happened said:
Nice, you cherry picked one of the two. You need some balance in your life.
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That collective has zero original thought when it comes to policy/politics - just talking points. Sadly, the current state of the media necessitates seeking multiple sources that have a variety of political perspectives to get any sort of balance.
 
crush said:
Oh boy, should I take it down? I had no idea, I promise. I was Mormon and adopted and that was hard on me as a kid, I won;t lie. Having those two facts to start grade school is not easy. Add the fact I had a speech problem it was hard back then to navigate life and I was pissed off inside. Church two times on Sunday, no caffine, mid week church and then they forced you to go out and preach for two years when you turn 18. I was not going to go but it was what they wanted me to do. Two years riding my Bike would have ruined me altogether. Can you imagine crush riding a bike around Panama? I had a few pals quit after their 2 year preaching tour and now their Jack Mormons or fall always because as soon as they did what their rich parents told them they had to do in order for inheritance, they quit that church altogether. I was dreading that day when I turned 18 and off to some foreign country preaching the book of Mormon that brother Smith and brother Young founded. Try doing your family tree with Elder Smith and see where you stand in the grand scheme of things in that faith. I got out when I was 16. I love all faiths but that one scared me the most, I wont lie. I did not ask to be born or put into that church, just saying.
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No, don't take it down. It's hilarious. I just wouldn't show the movie to any Mormon relatives you may have.

Your experience is not unusual.
 
watfly said:
No, don't take it down. It's hilarious. I just wouldn't show the movie to any Mormon relatives you may have.

Your experience is not unusual.
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I have no Mormon relatives or friends at this time in that church. I'm just super and I mean super grateful my foster mother allowed me to choose when I turned 16 if I wanted to be a Mormon for life or leave the sect. See below pic of me getting baptized when I was eligible at 8 years old. I was bribed with a Bob's Big Boy lunch from my mom and I got baptized. I was out as fast as I could say goodbye though when I got a chance with freedom of choice on my 16th bday. My mom was sad I got out so quick. She soon followed though. BTW, my foster care dad hated God and any church and never went. Greatest man I ever knew. So loving and kind. What man adopts 8 kids with a crazy wife???? He didnt really hate God at the end of his life, he hated that he had to witness his first wife dying giving birth and his baby dd not making it. Then he got fucking Parkinson's. That fucking disease is shit!!! He was so angry inside he kept it inside for a long time. My dad got through it and died with peace and love for God. Now I will share how I sought my revenge. This is not how I should have been and I totally see my ego at play now. At the time, I thought I was doing the right thing. I got all into Billy Graham and listen to his tapes in my pursuit of finding hope on this awful planet we all were forced to be born on. I got all into Jesus and went straight for the guys on the bikes. I actually lived on the same street of their church and I went after these guys with the bible. I wish I had tapes to show you. I never once got a guy to quit his mission to join the church I was going to at the time. Impossible. I matured in the faith and stopped chasing JWs and Mormons. I left them alone and went after pagans instead. My type of guy....lol!!

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espola said:
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Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.
 
Grace T. said:
Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.
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I bet Espola loves t now. t got his booster and thinks it's the tone as to how get people to take shot. Hey Mr. T, I will NEVER take a shot. I'm happy for you and Espola are now two peas and a pod.
 
Grace T. said:
Another stupid one....worse than the other cartoon you posted previously with the Medieval loo:

1. What self-respecting adult wants a lollipop? Particularly one of those? The only adults that eat those are the ones that go around in mickey mouse hats at Disneyland without kids and ride the kiddie rides and think Mickey is real.
2. If you wanted more adults to take it up, if you aren't going to give them cash, try at least chocolate...even a Hershey bar would do better.
3. What's more stunning is the idea that they'd presume some people who are resistant would sell out so cheaply
4. What self-respecting doctor is handing out lollipops to vaccinated adults?
5. The vaccines don't apparently (even if you get 3 of them) stop us from getting sick (particularly in the age of omicron).
6. If you are 30 or under....particularly if you are a child that would like the stupid lollipop...unless you are severely immunocompromised you are not going to die. The vaccine isn't doing it for you.
7. If you are such a child or immunocompromised person, way to rub it in their faces that they are going to die (quite possibly even if they get the vaccine)....that's nasty.
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You didn't get a lollipop?
 
Brav520 said:
you don’t think this will tip the scales and get those unvaccinated to get the vaccine?
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Non-factual opinion here -- at this point, the unvaccinated are dedicated to that condition as a moral cause and nothing will sway them. All that is left is to mock them.
 
espola said:
Non-factual opinion here -- at this point, the unvaccinated are dedicated to that condition as a moral cause and nothing will sway them. All that is left is to mock them.
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The Great Separation is now upon us. The unvaccinated ((unclean)) vs Vaccinated ((Clean)). Mock Mock? WHO is at my door?
 
So we've moved beyond the argument that vaccines stop community spread and are now back to it saves your life.

The problem with that is that we don't force people to stop smoking, we don't throw homeless drug addicts into psych wards for their own good, we don't force people who are overweight to exercise under government supervisors, we don't monitor strictly (or even restrict government payments for) the food diabetics are permitted to eat, we don't stop people from engaging in extreme sports or very hazardous ones like football skiing and even soccer.

What's more is we allow people to make much more serious and monumental choices that have severe repercussions on others including the bad health decisions, throwing money away on drugs and alcohols instead of supporting their families, having children and voting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473383296348434437
 
Grace T. said:
So we've moved beyond the argument that vaccines stop community spread and are now back to it saves your life.

The problem with that is that we don't force people to stop smoking, we don't throw homeless drug addicts into psych wards for their own good, we don't force people who are overweight to exercise under government supervisors, we don't monitor strictly (or even restrict government payments for) the food diabetics are permitted to eat, we don't stop people from engaging in extreme sports or very hazardous ones like football skiing and even soccer.

What's more is we allow people to make much more serious and monumental choices that have severe repercussions on others including the bad health decisions, throwing money away on drugs and alcohols instead of supporting their families, having children and voting.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1473383296348434437
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Back to?
 
espola said:
Non-factual opinion here -- at this point, the unvaccinated are dedicated to that condition as a moral cause and nothing will sway them. All that is left is to mock them.
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maybe moral cause isn’t the driving factor

Maybe some people are making risk assessments or maybe people have much bigger concerns in their lives than Covid


Zip code 90002, for example, in the Watts area of Los Angeles had about 51% of its total population fully vaccinated as of November 2.

It's an area that's 18% Black and about 80% Latino, according to data from the U.S. Census. Also, nearly a third of people in this zip code live below the poverty line.
 
Brav520 said:
maybe moral cause isn’t the driving factor

Maybe some people are making risk assessments or maybe people have much bigger concerns in their lives than Covid


Zip code 90002, for example, in the Watts area of Los Angeles had about 51% of its total population fully vaccinated as of November 2.

It's an area that's 18% Black and about 80% Latino, according to data from the U.S. Census. Also, nearly a third of people in this zip code live below the poverty line.
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The population has good historical reason snot to trust (and in some cases, not to go on record with) any government program.

What's your excuse?
 
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