Vaccine

The first time you guys raised the unsafe vaccine argument, it was to complain that J&J has the same risk as driving a car 50 miles. Now you are complaining about a myocarditis risk that is even smaller.

Your argument has absolutely nothing to do with risk. The risk from J&J is 0.0000005, nine deaths per 17 million patients. And that’s the higher risk one.

It has everything to do with you and grace buying into a politicized argument that covid is a nothing burger. But you can’t say that, because it’s hard to argue that 800,000 deaths is nothing.

Which leaves you defending the notion that 800,000 deaths is minor, but nine deaths is a huge problem. I have no idea how you can simultaneously believe both these concepts.
Nine deaths out of 17 million is about the same risk as someone under 12 being killed by Covid. So if 9 deaths in young people from the vaccination is not very relevant neither is the Covid deaths for those under 12.

The last leg of your stool, mandate to prevent community spread, has just been broken off. The vaccines don't prevent spread of the virus as breakthrough infections are quite common. California is now admitting it with their new policies.
 
everyone is Mini-T with a R next to their name according to the left
Back in 2016, I had a (I) next to my name and was not into politics at all and I was still blamed for t because I want adoptions, not abortions. I also wanted cheating to stop in youth soccer. When HRC lost because of Seth and James, social media and the news went cray cray. I saw on Facebook how so called friendships were conditional. I saw guys from old days draw redline and if you are for adoptions, your on meds and support everything t ever said or did in his life. Scary times we live in Brav 520.
 
So you think OSHA/Biden's mandate for private businesses >100 employees is dead in the water? Same story with LAUSD vaccination requirement for students?

There is a weekly testing alternative with the 100+ mandate dumbshit, so carry on with your "woe is me" misrepresentations.

As for LAUSD, it was planning to allow remote learning for those douches who didn't want to get vaccinated, but it also abandoned the proposal until at least the fall.
 
Nine deaths out of 17 million is about the same risk as someone under 12 being killed by Covid. So if 9 deaths in young people from the vaccination is not very relevant neither is the Covid deaths for those under 12.

The last leg of your stool, mandate to prevent community spread, has just been broken off. The vaccines don't prevent spread of the virus as breakthrough infections are quite common. California is now admitting it with their new policies.
Covid deaths among those under 12 are quite rare. As you said, not very relevant.

But you’ve got the numbers wrong for community spread, at least for delta. This article puts the reduction at around 50%:


Cutting transmission in half among the currently unvaccinated is enough to essentially eliminate delta in the US. That one is relevant. Delta is still killing about one person per minute in the US.

Omicron? Still waiting on data.
 
dad wants to mandate vaccines. Do they work vs the O? I don't know but mandate everyone over 18 that cant run a 6 minute mile to get vaxxed.

And yet what are we finding?


A new study out of Columbia University says the Omicron variant is “markedly resistant” to vaccines and boosters might not do much to help, spelling bad news for the country as Omicron spreads and COVID-19 cases rise nationally.


My colleagues are down with the big 0...spouses now too....bad flu so far (which is what they mean by "mild").....all triple vaxxed.
 
It has everything to do with you and grace buying into a politicized argument that covid is a nothing burger. But you can’t say that, because it’s hard to argue that 800,000 deaths is nothing.

It's not that it's a nothing burger. It's that the cost/benefit does not justify some of the policies you are advocating: whether masks, school closures, vaccine mandates or lockdowns.
 
Covid deaths among those under 12 are quite rare. As you said, not very relevant.

But you’ve got the numbers wrong for community spread, at least for delta. This article puts the reduction at around 50%:


Cutting transmission in half among the currently unvaccinated is enough to essentially eliminate delta in the US. That one is relevant. Delta is still killing about one person per minute in the US.

Omicron? Still waiting on data.
50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.
 
Ouch.. that will lead to school shutdowns. None too surprised here.
I will not be surprised if schools open 2-4 weeks late after break.

Depends on whether Omicron causes mass hospitalizations. Even if it happens, the high transmission rate means the case spike should be short.
 
My colleagues are down with the big 0...spouses now too....bad flu so far (which is what they mean by "mild").....all triple vaxxed.
I heard a rumor my neighbor down the street just went down for the count with the Big O. Were all a part of a dog walkers club and he has not been seen in a few days. Other neighbor told me the bad news. His name is Niko, please pray for him. I saw sim a week ago and he told me he felt like shit. Triple Vaxed as well because he trusts his health pros. I got Rona back in Jan 20, 2020 up in Kirkland, WA. Then I think I got the Delta and I believe I got Omicron a few weeks ago. I have never felt stronger in my life and I mean that. Old pal saw me and he did the double take and said, "you keep getting thinner." I was so encouraged by his encouragement and the props of losing weight. I tell you all it's because I eat fruits, veggies, salads, nuts and Thai. No booze either. I meditate early in the morning as the Son helps me rise above politics and division. Imagine if you all will a place where honesty, openness and transparency ((HOT)) rule the land. Truth & Justice is the Law of the Land and and and no more cheating and no more disease and hate :) Imagine all the people in love with each other.
 
I will not be surprised if schools open 2-4 weeks late after break.

Depends on whether Omicron causes mass hospitalizations. Even if it happens, the high transmission rate means the case spike should be short.
South Africa is doing just find and that's where Omicron was born. Did Omicron take it's self to America and the UK? Notice the states Omicron was first detected? Man, fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, shame on the cheaters. Fool me three times the lady then it's all bets off. What a cheater & liar you have become.
 
50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.
That number will quickly grow, Omicron will outcompete delta in the next few weeks. With poor vaccine performance against Omicron, cases will continue to climb. Cross fingers and hope we follow same hospitalization trend as SA. While Delta will still impact some, soon Omicron will become the dominant strain. Not neccessarily a bad thing.
 
Desantis is just mini-t.
The before and after t is a complete makeover
 
50% is poor and is clearly not enough to prevent widespread infection.
Ask anyone who actually understands the science. For Delta, your gut is just wrong. A 50% reduction to delta transmission would nearly eliminate the disease in the US.

For Omicron, a 50% reduction would merely flatten the curve a bit.
 
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