Vaccine

sounds Like he is going to CNN +
He's one of the few legitimate newspersons left (although I can't think of any others offhand). Obviously CNN is attempting to bring some credibility to their channel but its going to take much more than hiring Wallace.

I'll probably get a lot of flack for this but Fox News is not the same without Wallace, Shepard and Kelly. The trio of Tucker, Hannity and Ingraham is mind numbing. Maybe one of those as extreme punditry, but not all three.
 
I will not even begin to act like I understand all that but I get the gist.

I worked there from '78 to '83, and in that short interval, we went through 4 different generations of that complicated (and error-pron) stage, with the final generation just eliminating it entirely.
 
That’s why that response puzzled we as well. Seems the response was simply a reaction to what the poster thought they thought you would think as opposed to what you actually posted.

"Herd immunity" is one of those sciencey terms that get misused a lot lately. It's not quantitative (as in a certain number) but more of a quantitative description. It's observed, not measured.
 
From what I have read neither the vaccine nor previous exposure to Covid provide long lasting immunity. Either having Covid or not the vaccine is extra layer of protection, but I have not read anywhere that herd immunity is even possible. The full body suits worn by the hunter in the movie Predator aren’t far off in the future for us anymore. We may be well into an era that produces basically viruses that have no true cure. Like with HIV, but of course I may be wrong. I always reserve the right to be wrong.


That's called a " Weasel Clause ".
And you exercise it quite often.

If you had completed or even studied in school you would be embarrassed
at the stupidity you post on this forum and try real hard to back up with
focused insults.

Take ten minutes and go read up on some basic virology, then come back and
admit your failings. No one will fault you if you for once admit how humiliating
it is to post/endorse the horse dung you post here as fact.
 
"Herd immunity" is one of those sciencey terms that get misused a lot lately. It's not quantitative (as in a certain number) but more of a quantitative description. It's observed, not measured.


It's NOT a description, it's FACT.

Stop intentionally lying Adam Espola Schiff.

Herd immunity | definition of herd immunity by Medical dictionary (thefreedictionary.com)

herd immunity
A measure of the transmission potential of a disease, which corresponds to the number of secondary infections produced by a typical case of an infection in a population that is totally susceptible, and can be quantified by counting the number of secondary cases following the introduction of an infection into a totally susceptible population.

Herd immunity occurs when a significant proportion of the population (or the herd) have been vaccinated, and this provides protection for unprotected individuals. The larger the number of people who are vaccinated in a population, the lower the likelihood that a susceptible (unvaccinated) person will come into contact with the infection. It is more difficult for diseases to spread between individuals if large numbers are already immune, and the chain of infection is broken.

The herd immunity threshold is the proportion of a population that need to be immune in order for an infectious disease to become stable in that community. If this is reached—for example due to immunization—then each case leads to a single new case and the infection will become stable within the population, that is, R=1. If the threshold is surpassed, then R<1 and the disease will die out.

For an epidemic to occur in a susceptible population, R0 must be >1 for the number of cases to increase. If the R0 is < 1 the number of cases decreases, as occurs when a new vaccine is introduced.

This is an important measure used in infectious disease control and immunization and eradication programmes.

Factors affecting R0
• Rate of contacts in the host population;
• Probability of infection being transmitted during contact;
• Duration of infectiousness.
 
I suspect it’s more of a bureaucratic failure than a deliberate power grab. Line the kids up, forms in the box, get your shot, get your pizza, next kid. The exceptions are more difficult, and someone screwed up. You probably had a couple lactose intolerant kids who got cheese, too.
Ignorance is no excuse.
 
He's one of the few legitimate newspersons left (although I can't think of any others offhand). Obviously CNN is attempting to bring some credibility to their channel but its going to take much more than hiring Wallace.

I'll probably get a lot of flack for this but Fox News is not the same without Wallace, Shepard and Kelly. The trio of Tucker, Hannity and Ingraham is mind numbing. Maybe one of those as extreme punditry, but not all three.
No more flack from crush bro. I have not watched news tel a vision in a long time. Mind control is real.
 
This is an example why I don't "trust" the experts automatically.

I am always skeptical. It is the smart thing to do/be.

One cannot auto assume an expert or experts should be believed. Especially since their funding/livelihood in many cases depends on pleasing the masters above. Even more so when their funding/jobs are gov dependent.

 

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, a Democrat, declared in a new interview that the COVID-19 emergency is "over" and that he won’t be implementing another statewide mask mandate in response to the spread of the omicron variant, explaining that if people aren’t vaccinated at this point it’s their "own darn fault" if they get sick.

"The emergency is over," he said. "You know, public health [officials] don’t get to tell people what to wear; that's just not their job. Public health [officials] would say to always wear a mask because it decreases flu and decreases [other airborne illnesses]. But that's not something that you require; you don't tell people what to wear. You don't tell people to wear a jacket when they go out in winter and force them to [wear it]. If they get frostbite, it's their own darn fault.

"Those who get sick, it's almost entirely their own darn fault," he continued. "I don't want to say that nobody [will get the virus if they’re] vaccinated, but it's very rare. Just to put it in perspective, of the about 1400 people hospitalized, less than 200 (or 16 percent) are vaccinated. And many of them are older or have other conditions. Eighty-four percent of the people in our hospitals are unvaccinated, and they absolutely had every chance to get vaccinated."
 

Colorado Gov. Jared Polis, a Democrat, declared in a new interview that the COVID-19 emergency is "over" and that he won’t be implementing another statewide mask mandate in response to the spread of the omicron variant, explaining that if people aren’t vaccinated at this point it’s their "own darn fault" if they get sick.

"The emergency is over," he said. "You know, public health [officials] don’t get to tell people what to wear; that's just not their job. Public health [officials] would say to always wear a mask because it decreases flu and decreases [other airborne illnesses]. But that's not something that you require; you don't tell people what to wear. You don't tell people to wear a jacket when they go out in winter and force them to [wear it]. If they get frostbite, it's their own darn fault.

"Those who get sick, it's almost entirely their own darn fault," he continued. "I don't want to say that nobody [will get the virus if they’re] vaccinated, but it's very rare. Just to put it in perspective, of the about 1400 people hospitalized, less than 200 (or 16 percent) are vaccinated. And many of them are older or have other conditions. Eighty-four percent of the people in our hospitals are unvaccinated, and they absolutely had every chance to get vaccinated."
Note that this is from a state that was in the top 10 most restrictive states earlier this year.
 
This is an example why I don't "trust" the experts automatically.

I am always skeptical. It is the smart thing to do/be.

One cannot auto assume an expert or experts should be believed. Especially since their funding/livelihood in many cases depends on pleasing the masters above. Even more so when their funding/jobs are gov dependent.


I suppose that’s true, if by “skeptic” you mean “someone who us impervious to information they don’t like”.

It’s been about 20 months. By now, there is plenty of evidence. Are you willing to admit that indoor bars and restaurants increase aerosol respiratory disease transmission?

My bet is you still pretend it isn’t true.
 
JUST IN - PM Johnson says the first UK death has been recorded "with" the Omicron variant. No further details, yet.

OMG - a single death in an entire country ... Lockdown the entire world NOW !!!
 
The news on the tel a vision is insane. I just heard some Gov say, "if your elderly and you have not got your booster, shame on you."
 
I suppose that’s true, if by “skeptic” you mean “someone who us impervious to information they don’t like”.

It’s been about 20 months. By now, there is plenty of evidence. Are you willing to admit that indoor bars and restaurants increase aerosol respiratory disease transmission?

My bet is you still pretend it isn’t true.
Imagine this econonmy after 20 months of no bars/restaurants. I get your fear of them but they aren't the boogy man you make them out to be.
 
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