You're dodging the question.
Have you figured out why Taiwanese deaths following infection are lower than Taiwanese deaths following innoculation?
If you're stuck, try googling "base rate error".
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Have you figured out why Taiwanese deaths following infection are lower than Taiwanese deaths following innoculation?
If you're stuck, try googling "base rate error".
The problem with the "save the ICU" rational is that in much of the country COVID is in retreat and the ICUs aren't in danger. It also neglects that kids, the young, and the previously infected aren't part of that risk group so that 1/3 has to be reduced accordingly. It only serves as justification for keeping restrictions in low vaxxed places where infections rise due to seasonality (not in places like San Francisco with a high vaxx rate).
Again, no one can articulate a logical reason for a vaxx mandated beyond save the idiots from themselves....
Mmmm… clogged ICUs. Which hospital system is experiencing this issue? There are specific hospitals that have an issue, but I not networks.
see I don't buy that is the endgame here.
Some of our elite universities across the country require vaccination and still have very restrictive covid policies.
But again, they are demonizing the "anti-vaxxer", in fact one unhinged poster in here seems to celebrate the deaths of the unvaccinated , especially if they are a toothless MAGA supporter . This is not an uncommon reaction from a portion of the left . These are our moral betters, these people consider themselves good people?
so, yes what is the reason for mandates
*spits coffee all over the desk while laughing*
Sort of like focusing on case rate while ignoring age based risk with the sample set? Or is that more extension fallacy?
aka ‘straw man’ or ‘q.e.d’
met61
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LOL! Why replace vaccination with innoculation?
...a month ago the CDC quietly changes the longstanding definition of vaccine / vaccination significantly...and you along with the handmaidens in the media shrug it off as if it were a typo...why?
What, now you want to change the topic?
His article was making a big deal of the fact that deaths after vaccination in Taiwan are higher than deaths after infection.
This is a classic base rate error. Taiwan has far more vaccinations than infections. It's like pointing out that covid kills more right handed people than left handed people.
That’s their topic. I’ll let them reply on their own. I just found it funny and added some context.
what-happened
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Narrative consructed by people with agendas. Remember back to the ventilator days. ICUs always run at or near capacity. Full beds drive revenue. Some smaller hospitals with smaller staffing were certainly impacted, maybe still impacted. Based on protocols, it's more effort and people intensive to care for a covid positive patient.
We certainly don't freak out over RSV care even though it's nearly as contagious. And RSV has been clogging up pediatric beds/ICUs all over the country. Real journalism is dead for now in this country. Journalist are too scared to go against the grain of an agenda for fear of being banished. It's unfortunate.
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Local elections are not as skewed as what you have correctly identified about privilege (whatever the form).
Not that dissimilar to talking about athleticism in relation to soccer potential.
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So are healthy adults
Checking your facts --
ICU Occupancy and mechanical ventilator use in the United States - PMC
Detailed data on occupancy and use of mechanical ventilators in United States intensive care units (ICU) over time and across unit types, are lacking. We sought to describe the hourly bed occupancy and use of ventilators in US ICUs to improve future ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
kickingandscreaming
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This is a good point. It has become very easy to surround ourselves with like-minded people - consciously or not. It tends to further isolate us culturally.
Checking your facts --
ICU Occupancy and mechanical ventilator use in the United States - PMC
Detailed data on occupancy and use of mechanical ventilators in United States intensive care units (ICU) over time and across unit types, are lacking. We sought to describe the hourly bed occupancy and use of ventilators in US ICUs to improve future ...
“Conclusions
Occupancy of US ICUs was stable over time, but there is uneven distribution across different types and sizes of units. Only three out of ten beds were filled at any time with mechanically ventilated patients, suggesting substantial surge capacity throughout the system to care for acutely critically ill patients.”
MacDre
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True, but in Oakland you have folks like Jerry Brown and Ron Dellums that run for Mayor. So, I guess it depends on what you mean by local.
what-happened
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you don't even know what facts you are checking.Checking your facts --
ICU Occupancy and mechanical ventilator use in the United States - PMC
Detailed data on occupancy and use of mechanical ventilators in United States intensive care units (ICU) over time and across unit types, are lacking. We sought to describe the hourly bed occupancy and use of ventilators in US ICUs to improve future ...
kickingandscreaming
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What BMI is acceptable for conversation?