Desert Hound
DA
Look at the the clapping seals when talking about people losing their jobs because they dont want to get the jab.
They like the idea of taking away rights.
Vaccine
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They like the idea of taking away rights.
Bruddah IZ
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“What we don’t want people to say is: ‘All right, I should go out and get infected, I should have an infection party,’” says Michel Nussenzweig, an immunologist at Rockefeller University who researches the immune response to SARS-CoV-2 and was not involved in the study. “Because somebody could die.”
Barry was like screw that! I'm gonna have me a damn pah-tay!!
Did Political and Media Bias Stall the Release of Merck's New Covid-19 Drug?
Former HHS officials say they tried to accelerate funding for what became Merck's new "miracle" drug last year, but were blocked. How culture-war stupidity may have cost "tens of thousands" of lives
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While I'm generally opposed to these mandates because they force one form of medical treatment over others, I would be less opposed if the mandates allowed for periodic testing or previously infected immunity in lieu of mandated vaccines. That seems to be a reasonable accommodation.
Instead its we know what's best for you based on our cherry picked science so shut up and comply, you Qanon disciple, parent terrorist, horse paste licking, orange man worshipping, Newsmax watching, pointy hat wearing, anti-vaxxer. (Did I miss any GG?)
Oster on masks: cloth masks help very little...we have to be honest with the public over what we can and can't do....if it takes you 15 minutes of exposure in a room to fall ill masks may give you an additional 5 (editorial: in which case, why the F are we covering kids faces for a 5-8 hour school day!!!)...he's been really disappointed with his colleagues in public health....a face cloth mask is going to protect you is simply not true....screen shot surveys show 25% of the population is wearing it under their nose.
Do Masks Provide as Much Protection as We Think?
A recent internal document from the CDC reveals that it's as contagious as chickenpox and it carries an increased risk of severe illness and hospitalization. Michael Osterholm is the Director for Infectious Disease, Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. He speaks with our Walter...
www.pbs.org
'He also uses the smell smoke analogy that I used earlier and espola dumped on.Oster on masks: cloth masks help very little...we have to be honest with the public over what we can and can't do....if it takes you 15 minutes of exposure in a room to fall ill masks may give you an additional 5 (editorial: in which case, why the F are we covering kids faces for a 5-8 hour school day!!!)...he's been really disappointed with his colleagues in public health....a face cloth mask is going to protect you is simply not true....screen shot surveys show 25% of the population is wearing it under their nose.
Do Masks Provide as Much Protection as We Think?
A recent internal document from the CDC reveals that it's as contagious as chickenpox and it carries an increased risk of severe illness and hospitalization. Michael Osterholm is the Director for Infectious Disease, Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. He speaks with our Walter...www.pbs.org
Desert Hound
DA
"THEY ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE VERY LIMITED IMPACT IN REDUCING THE AMOUNT OF VIRUS THAT YOU INHALE IN OR EXHALE OUT.Oster on masks: cloth masks help very little...we have to be honest with the public over what we can and can't do....if it takes you 15 minutes of exposure in a room to fall ill masks may give you an additional 5 (editorial: in which case, why the F are we covering kids faces for a 5-8 hour school day!!!)...he's been really disappointed with his colleagues in public health....a face cloth mask is going to protect you is simply not true....screen shot surveys show 25% of the population is wearing it under their nose.
Do Masks Provide as Much Protection as We Think?
A recent internal document from the CDC reveals that it's as contagious as chickenpox and it carries an increased risk of severe illness and hospitalization. Michael Osterholm is the Director for Infectious Disease, Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. He speaks with our Walter...www.pbs.org
AND IN FACT IN STUDIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE SHOW THAT IF AN INDIVIDUAL MIGHT GET INFECTED WITHIN 15 MINUTES IN A ROOM, BY TIME AND CONCENTRATION OF THE VIRUS IN THE ROOM.
ADD A FACE CLOTH COVERING YOU ONLY GET ABOUT FIVE MORE MINUTES OF PROTECTION.
I'VE BEEN REALLY DISAPPOINTED WITH MY COLLEAGUES IN PUBLIC HEALTH FOR NOT BEING MORE CLEAR ABOUT WHAT CAN MASKING DG OR NOT DO."
He points out studies. Studies in fact on the CDC site that show little affect.
He is a fan of the n95s.
The rest is just for show.
Rise in ‘school phobia’ as children stay home due to anxiety
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Bruddah IZ
DA
Don't forget flat earther.
And climate change denier, Obama birther.
Actually went to school with Obama when I was a kid, so I know he's been in the US since 4th grade. Didn't know him at the time but he is in my yearbooks. Known then as Barry and he was a little chubby (pre-nicotine diet). Probably the only kid that wore shoes to school.
Desert Hound
DA
Surprised you didn't get the call to become ambassador to Somalia or some other exotic place. Should have been nicer to him in 4th grade apparently.
The 4th graders weren't hanging out with the kinders.
Bruddah IZ
DA
FREE MARKETS
Don't Ask Politicians To Fix a Supply Chain Crisis They Created
Governments may not be able to make an economy, but they've proven they can break it.
J.D. TUCCILLE | 10.6.2021 7:00 AM
"Tariffs on raw materials, low tech/cost components, equipment, and finished goods which are not adequately produced in the U.S., are causing delivery delays of critical products and/or higher consumer costs," the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers, the Air-Conditioning, Heating, and Refrigeration Institute, the North American Association of Food Equipment Manufacturers and the National Electrical Manufacturers Association point out in a white paper sent to the Biden administration last week. "Plant shutdowns and/or slowdowns caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, including current difficulties attracting new employees despite competitive pay and benefits, have reduced manufacturing productivity," they added.
The trade associations fret over serious worldwide supply chain issues often represented by backlogs at ports, but also involving the inability to source both components needed for production and finished goods. Some of the international disconnect between supply and demand can be attributed to specific policies, such as lockdowns that make it difficult for factories to satisfy customers.
"Governments have struggled to secure doses [of vaccine] and have imposed costly lockdowns that have left many factories without workers," Reuters reported in August of manufacturing woes in Asia.
Likewise, Britain's dearth of truck drivers has been laid at the feet of the border barriers imposed by Brexit, which certainly didn't help. But neither did the suspension of the approval process for commercial drivers or lockdowns that idled workers.
"Covid has had an impact and the most obvious Covid impact is that normally about 35,000—40,000 tests are done a year for HGV [heavy goods vehicle] drivers and had to be suspended quite rightly for Covid, and there's a backlog of tests," the head of a dairy co-op told the Yorkshire Post.
"Foreign labour was not scared out of Britain due to an abstract legal change; it was driven out by the Government's lockdown policies in response to the pandemic, which shuffled many from their jobs onto a souped-up dole," charges British economist Philip Pilkington, who points out that Ireland, which remains in the EU, also has a driver shortage. "Many realised that the dole is better where they came from on the continent, especially relative to the cost of living, and so they left." Pilkington also points to the delay in testing drivers as contributing to the shortage.
Lockdowns also changed people's lives, closing offices and factories and confining people at home. That resulted in massive and unpredictable shifts in demand and unreliable supply. Do you remember the disappearance from supermarkets of flour and yeast early in the pandemic? Who knew that people with time on their hands would discover their inner bakers (at least for the time being)?
"The period of contagion, self-isolation and economic uncertainty will change the way consumers behave, in some cases for years to come," observes the consulting firm McKinsey & Company. "The new consumer behaviors span all areas of life, from how we work to how we shop to how we entertain ourselves. These rapid shifts have important implications for retailers and consumer-packaged-goods companies."
How many of these changes will be permanent, and which will revert to old patterns after restrictions on normal life disappear? Businesses planning for the future have to guess, with their survival at stake.
"The idea that an economy could be indiscriminately shut down and turned back on without far-reaching consequences, as if a light switch or lawn mower, is utterly damnable," charges economist Peter C. Earle. "It could only come from the mind of an individual, or body of individuals, with no understanding of or consideration for the extraordinary interdependence of the productive sector."
"Market economies tend to be pretty good at getting food on the supermarket shelves and fuel in petrol stations, if left to themselves," agrees Pilkington. "That last part is key: if left to themselves. Heavy-handed interference in market economies tends to produce the same pathologies we see in socialist economies, including shortages and inflation. That has been the unintended consequence of lockdown."
Unfortunately, there's almost certainly more pain on the way. Electricity is now in short supply in China, partially because a drought has hobbled hydropower, but also because the government makes it impossible for electricity producers to compensate for rising coal prices.
"Power plants buy coal at market price but are not allowed to raise electricity rates on customers beyond small margins set by national planners," notes the Los Angeles Times. "When coal is expensive, many plants report 'maintenance outages' and reduce or stop operation rather than suffer losses."
That may ease the shipping logjam, but only because there will be fewer goods produced by factories shuttered by blackouts. Europe, too, suffers soaring energy prices as demand recovers from pandemic lockdowns even as prices rise for fossil fuels and governments' planned transition to renewable energy proves vulnerable to nature's whims. That also leads to manufacturing slowdowns. You can expect the consequences to cascade around the world, with yet more empty shelves.
The danger is that people see economic problems caused by earlier fiddling and then demand even more government intervention. The semiconductor shortage, for instance, can be attributed to production curtailed by lockdowns as demand for computers soared among populations compelled to work and study from home. But the trade-group white paper that asked the Biden administration for tariff relief also begged it to "Ensure that semiconductor supply is fairly and transparently allocated across industry sectors and that the Administration does not—explicitly or implicitly—favor any one sector."
The groups don't elaborate on what a semiconductor policy should look like. But if the government were to further meddle in the market to allocate products made scarce by earlier actions, it's hard to see how the result wouldn't be anything other than increased supply chain chaos.
Don't Ask Politicians To Fix a Supply Chain Crisis They Created
Governments may not be able to make an economy, but they've proven they can break it.
J.D. TUCCILLE | 10.6.2021 7:00 AM
"Tariffs on raw materials, low tech/cost components, equipment, and finished goods which are not adequately produced in the U.S., are causing delivery delays of critical products and/or higher consumer costs," the Association of Home Appliance Manufacturers, the Air-Conditioning, Heating, and Refrigeration Institute, the North American Association of Food Equipment Manufacturers and the National Electrical Manufacturers Association point out in a white paper sent to the Biden administration last week. "Plant shutdowns and/or slowdowns caused by the COVID-19 pandemic, including current difficulties attracting new employees despite competitive pay and benefits, have reduced manufacturing productivity," they added.
Separately, the American Apparel & Footwear Association also asked for tariff relief to ease "the chaos and cost increases caused by the shipping crisis."The trade associations fret over serious worldwide supply chain issues often represented by backlogs at ports, but also involving the inability to source both components needed for production and finished goods. Some of the international disconnect between supply and demand can be attributed to specific policies, such as lockdowns that make it difficult for factories to satisfy customers.
"Governments have struggled to secure doses [of vaccine] and have imposed costly lockdowns that have left many factories without workers," Reuters reported in August of manufacturing woes in Asia.
Likewise, Britain's dearth of truck drivers has been laid at the feet of the border barriers imposed by Brexit, which certainly didn't help. But neither did the suspension of the approval process for commercial drivers or lockdowns that idled workers.
"Covid has had an impact and the most obvious Covid impact is that normally about 35,000—40,000 tests are done a year for HGV [heavy goods vehicle] drivers and had to be suspended quite rightly for Covid, and there's a backlog of tests," the head of a dairy co-op told the Yorkshire Post.
"Foreign labour was not scared out of Britain due to an abstract legal change; it was driven out by the Government's lockdown policies in response to the pandemic, which shuffled many from their jobs onto a souped-up dole," charges British economist Philip Pilkington, who points out that Ireland, which remains in the EU, also has a driver shortage. "Many realised that the dole is better where they came from on the continent, especially relative to the cost of living, and so they left." Pilkington also points to the delay in testing drivers as contributing to the shortage.
Lockdowns also changed people's lives, closing offices and factories and confining people at home. That resulted in massive and unpredictable shifts in demand and unreliable supply. Do you remember the disappearance from supermarkets of flour and yeast early in the pandemic? Who knew that people with time on their hands would discover their inner bakers (at least for the time being)?
"The period of contagion, self-isolation and economic uncertainty will change the way consumers behave, in some cases for years to come," observes the consulting firm McKinsey & Company. "The new consumer behaviors span all areas of life, from how we work to how we shop to how we entertain ourselves. These rapid shifts have important implications for retailers and consumer-packaged-goods companies."
How many of these changes will be permanent, and which will revert to old patterns after restrictions on normal life disappear? Businesses planning for the future have to guess, with their survival at stake.
"The idea that an economy could be indiscriminately shut down and turned back on without far-reaching consequences, as if a light switch or lawn mower, is utterly damnable," charges economist Peter C. Earle. "It could only come from the mind of an individual, or body of individuals, with no understanding of or consideration for the extraordinary interdependence of the productive sector."
"Market economies tend to be pretty good at getting food on the supermarket shelves and fuel in petrol stations, if left to themselves," agrees Pilkington. "That last part is key: if left to themselves. Heavy-handed interference in market economies tends to produce the same pathologies we see in socialist economies, including shortages and inflation. That has been the unintended consequence of lockdown."
Unfortunately, there's almost certainly more pain on the way. Electricity is now in short supply in China, partially because a drought has hobbled hydropower, but also because the government makes it impossible for electricity producers to compensate for rising coal prices.
"Power plants buy coal at market price but are not allowed to raise electricity rates on customers beyond small margins set by national planners," notes the Los Angeles Times. "When coal is expensive, many plants report 'maintenance outages' and reduce or stop operation rather than suffer losses."
That may ease the shipping logjam, but only because there will be fewer goods produced by factories shuttered by blackouts. Europe, too, suffers soaring energy prices as demand recovers from pandemic lockdowns even as prices rise for fossil fuels and governments' planned transition to renewable energy proves vulnerable to nature's whims. That also leads to manufacturing slowdowns. You can expect the consequences to cascade around the world, with yet more empty shelves.
The danger is that people see economic problems caused by earlier fiddling and then demand even more government intervention. The semiconductor shortage, for instance, can be attributed to production curtailed by lockdowns as demand for computers soared among populations compelled to work and study from home. But the trade-group white paper that asked the Biden administration for tariff relief also begged it to "Ensure that semiconductor supply is fairly and transparently allocated across industry sectors and that the Administration does not—explicitly or implicitly—favor any one sector."
The groups don't elaborate on what a semiconductor policy should look like. But if the government were to further meddle in the market to allocate products made scarce by earlier actions, it's hard to see how the result wouldn't be anything other than increased supply chain chaos.
My elder brother went to law school with him during his bomber jacket/smoking phase....he'd always hang out outside the law review smoking. I'm told I met him a few times including at the annual salsa party but I have no memory of it.
Of course they did.....
apnews.com
Flush with COVID-19 aid, schools steer funding to sports
A growing number of school districts in the U.S. are using federal pandemic funding on athletics projects.
apnews.com
Apparently you didn't understand it then.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Damn, Chicken Little and I agree that the masking has been oversold.Oster on masks: cloth masks help very little...we have to be honest with the public over what we can and can't do....if it takes you 15 minutes of exposure in a room to fall ill masks may give you an additional 5 (editorial: in which case, why the F are we covering kids faces for a 5-8 hour school day!!!)...he's been really disappointed with his colleagues in public health....a face cloth mask is going to protect you is simply not true....screen shot surveys show 25% of the population is wearing it under their nose.
Do Masks Provide as Much Protection as We Think?
A recent internal document from the CDC reveals that it's as contagious as chickenpox and it carries an increased risk of severe illness and hospitalization. Michael Osterholm is the Director for Infectious Disease, Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota. He speaks with our Walter...www.pbs.org
Bruddah IZ
DA
It’s also not clear that such a mandate would do much for public safety given the low risk of COVID transmission aboard flights. That low risk was detailed in an October 2020 article published in the Journal of the American Medical Association. Cabin air, the article’s authors note, is recycled through HEPA filters which filter out virus particles. The way air flows within the cabin—from ceiling to floor, with little flow between rows—also reduces the odds of in-flight COVID transmission, they said.
“An airplane cabin is probably one of the most secure conditions you can be in,” Sebastian Hoehl, a researcher at the Institute for Medical Virology at Goethe University Frankfurt in Germany, told Scientific American in November 2020.
“An airplane cabin is probably one of the most secure conditions you can be in,” Sebastian Hoehl, a researcher at the Institute for Medical Virology at Goethe University Frankfurt in Germany, told Scientific American in November 2020.
Bruddah IZ
DA
An investigation has found that the Canadian military used the COVID-19 pandemic as an excuse to turn on the Canadian people propaganda techniques intended to be used against foreign enemies. The plan was developed by Canadian Joint Operations Command without the direction of civilian leadership. Military officials said the project was aimed at bolstering government messages about the disease and at stopping civil disobedience to pandemic restrictions.
Desert Hound
DA
THIS