Vaccine

UK supply chain for a variety of things from food to gas is in a state of collapse. Their problems are being exacerbated by Brexit, but might it be coming to the US this winter too?

Kamala said to get Christmas shopping done early. I was at beach yesterday for a mind relax walk & meditation. I saw so many cargo ships sitting a few miles out. Getting closer & closer. It's an eye sore for sure but I see it as something worse. Stock up on food folks. These are evil monsters WHO already know they lost a long time ago and so cheating & lying is ok to them because they put it all in. That's why they dont care if someone loses their job ((buy & sell)) because they say no to jab.
 
The restaurant should refuse to seat you indoors because you are not vaccinated. Unvaccinated people in high risk settings is a bad idea.
With Delta the vaxxed spread the virus at similar levels to the unvaxxed.

So it doesn't make a difference.

The vast vast majority of the unvaxxed have little risk AND they have made their choice.

So again it doesn't make a difference if they are inside or outdoors.

It is time to move on and live life. Long past that already.
 
If you bothered looking at the data you would know Delta in the US peaked around Aug 27.
These fools are out of waves Hound. Now they go around scaring people that a giant tidal wave is going come someday. They ruined peoples lives because they lost in 2016 and then were allowed to cheat in 2020 so they could ALL finally get caught on video and text. We have it all Hound and no one is going to escape justice this time. This was the biggest sting ((Rat Trap Ever)) operation ever. Fraudsters no more!!!
 
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Because of all the asymptomatic employer and school testing, rapid tests in California are in short supply and places that need them (nursing homes, schools trying to avoid quarantining kids and missing school) are having a harder time getting them.

Well yeah, when cases are running as rampant as they are in CA, we should test everyone all the time.

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If you bothered looking at the data you would know Delta in the US peaked around Aug 27.
Agreed. I post a link below for those interested. I've found that CNN can be used as a general guideline. Just note how many days it's been since they last posted about cases and/or deaths.

 
I think Grace T makes a strong case. I told everyone I would be last to take it. I want to make sure all the elderly and the poor around the world has jab. Come find me when the last jabs have been handed out to everyone else. It's the least I can do. I saw some really rich dads run and push everyone out of the way so they could get jabbed first. I saw it with my own eyes.

This is rich. Which is it Crush? Is the vaccine bad or good? You're now saying you're not getting because you want to be a good samaritan, but previously you've said that it's dangerous. I'm going to need more than a shovel to get through this manurer. There are plenty of doses to go around in the US right now Crush.
 
NEW - NY Governor Hochul proclaims, "The vaccine comes from God" and asks those present in the megachurch congregation, "I need you to be my apostles."

She wants to be like Jesus I guess and have her own 12 Apostles to spread her message that the Vax is from God and not a Bat or Dr. Fraud and his pal Bill? Espola, is this Coo Coo for Co Co Puffs or Nonsense? I have a message from God as well; walk in the light, it's right. Please start treating your body as a holy body. Humans are hooked on meat and booze. Stop eating meat and then, come follow me ((Jesus, not crush)) and I will give you treasures now and forever more. Jesus is the way, not jabber doos, moo, moo, moo!!! I love you all and soon this will be shown for what it truly is. Love love love and live light :)
 
I thought we were concerned with the hospital system collapsing?

Because of all the asymptomatic employer and school testing, rapid tests in California are in short supply and places that need them (nursing homes, schools trying to avoid quarantining kids and missing school) are having a harder time getting them.

Just a couple examples of the negative outcomes of myopic policies and complete failure to understand cause and effect, or ignoring cause and effect because its not politically expedient.

In a partial defense of politicians, they have to act like they're doing something with a grossly disproportionate emphasis on short term results. Its more important to solve problem A without considering its impact on problem B. Unfortunately in this case many have done nothing to materially solve problem A but have completely f'ed up problem B and now have created problems C, D, E, F..... Attorneys and activists, which are your typical politicians, have no experience operating anything, so they are not capable understanding how one part impacts the whole.
 
Here's Oregon despite vaccination, outdoor masks, and business restrictions.....


Washington.....


British Columbia....


The line has clearly moved northward and is now near peak in the north. The only question is once the current wave is done does it start to rise again in the north and head back south again?


As expected, it looks like seasonality has begun to kick in Australia and they seem to hopefully be at peak

 
NEW - NY Governor Hochul proclaims, "The vaccine comes from God" and asks those present in the megachurch congregation, "I need you to be my apostles."

She wants to be like Jesus I guess and have her own 12 Apostles to spread her message that the Vax is from God and not a Bat or Dr. Fraud and his pal Bill? Espola, is this Coo Coo for Co Co Puffs or Nonsense? I have a message from God as well; walk in the light, it's right. Please start treating your body as a holy body. Humans are hooked on meat and booze. Stop eating meat and then, come follow me ((Jesus, not crush)) and I will give you treasures now and forever more. Jesus is the way, not jabber doos, moo, moo, moo!!! I love you all and soon this will be shown for what it truly is. Love love love and live light :)
Did she happen to mention the God mandated Immune system? The Anti-immune system whack jobs hate that mandate!
 
There's some evidence natural immunity might be effective for at least a year, which if you are concerned about fading immunity, you really should be more concerned about the vaxxed than the naturally immune. There is a portion of people who are vaxxed (including I venture some posters here on team reality in the forums) who got their first dose who won't necessarily get the second (at least until there's some scientific proof they actually do anything...widespread boosters having been rejected by the CDC and FDA scientific panel for that reason). Not to mention, if you are healthy, it's selfish because you are taking a jab out of the arms of some third world grandma that needs it more than you do (unless you are elderly, immunocompromised or care for someone that is)

Not really concerned with folks who've gotten the vaccination. They don't need convincing. They understand the importance of preventing the spread of covid (and not getting sick themselves). If boosters become a thing, they will get it.

I also think there's a difference between antibody depletion and longer term immunity (both vaccinated and unvaccinated): Here's a good simple read:


Perhaps this is why the FDA is holding off on approving booster shots for the moment (they are allowing for emergency use). I still think booster shots will be a thing at some point.
 
Not really concerned with folks who've gotten the vaccination. They don't need convincing. They understand the importance of preventing the spread of covid (and not getting sick themselves). If boosters become a thing, they will get it.

I also think there's a difference between antibody depletion and longer term immunity (both vaccinated and unvaccinated): Here's a good simple read:


Perhaps this is why the FDA is holding off on approving booster shots for the moment (they are allowing for emergency use). I still think booster shots will be a thing at some point.
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Not really concerned with folks who've gotten the vaccination. They don't need convincing. They understand the importance of preventing the spread of covid (and not getting sick themselves). If boosters become a thing, they will get it.
Perhaps this is why the FDA is holding off on approving booster shots for the moment (they are allowing for emergency use). I still think booster shots will be a thing at some point.
You really should just be concerned with yourself and not worry about how others decide to live their life. My best friend got jabbed twice and still is on blood thinner. I support you if you want boosters. Please show respect Nocal. Seriously, show respect to those who use immune system and eat healthy as their choice :)
 
Not really concerned with folks who've gotten the vaccination. They don't need convincing. They understand the importance of preventing the spread of covid (and not getting sick themselves). If boosters become a thing, they will get it.

I also think there's a difference between antibody depletion and longer term immunity (both vaccinated and unvaccinated): Here's a good simple read:


Perhaps this is why the FDA is holding off on approving booster shots for the moment (they are allowing for emergency use). I still think booster shots will be a thing at some point.

Fine!

But then I think you are off your original position about how long ago since the vaccinated have the same issue and booster shots aren't yet a real thing.
 
You really should just be concerned with yourself and not worry about how others decide to live their life. My best friend got jabbed twice and still is on blood thinner. I support you if you want boosters. Please show respect Nocal. Seriously, show respect to those who use immune system and eat healthy as their choice :)
Eating healthy is Anti-Big Pharma, Anti-Healthcare, Anti-government, Anti-grandma, Anti-poverty, Anti-global warming, Anti-communism.....
 
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