met61
GOLD
Actually, you have wrongly started a few times in this post that City & Albion are the GA in the area...not looking to offend, just for accuracy. Thanks
DMCV Sharks Girls Director
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met61
GOLD
Nope, I don't use my best on the trivial...take your W on a victory lap. I'm tapping out Genius.
MacDre
PREMIER
What W? I am asking a serious question that only requires honesty. I am not asking for your best.
So, does your definition of talented player include players that don’t constantly over dribble, that can pass, and receive?
met61
GOLD
Yes.
MacDre
PREMIER
What’s your thoughts as to why the above type mentioned players are plentiful in the San Diego youth soccer ecosystem but are rare in D1 soccer?
met61
GOLD
I've had zero exposure and experience with D1 soccer, thus no opinion regarding it.
Having been around football and baseball my whole life playing and coaching...and spectating soccer with my kids for over 15 years it is easy to understand that all sports have a handful of basic fundamentals...and when done well and combined with athleticism, speed, heart and IQ...then recognizing talent is an easy call...but, at the end of the day it's subjective, thus whatever you think it is...You Win!
Having been around football and baseball my whole life playing and coaching...and spectating soccer with my kids for over 15 years it is easy to understand that all sports have a handful of basic fundamentals...and when done well and combined with athleticism, speed, heart and IQ...then recognizing talent is an easy call...but, at the end of the day it's subjective, thus whatever you think it is...You Win!
that's unfortunate about SD force, there are some good teams in that club
outside!
DA
They exist in D1 soccer, but are often not encouraged to play that way.
met61
GOLD
Additionally, I recently saw a SoCal PDP list for SD, not sure where I saw it, but there were a few dozen very talented players on that list alone...not hard to find talent in SD.
Nothing unfortunate about it at all. Love to see this club go away (yes, I have a grudge). One of their coaches takes a shot on my kid during a scrimmage and breaks my kid's arm (she was supposed to travel the next week to KS to tryout for the national futsal team). POS club president not only doesn't offer to step up and pay the medical bills, makes it more difficult to try to get my kid's medical bills covered by Cal South. During National Cup, DD's coach decided at 1/2 time to scream at my kid that she was not playing well enough to play DA (she had accepted a DA spot with another club at tryouts and new future coach was watching the game from the sidelines); the coach failed to scream at any of the other 8 players that were also moving on to DA or ECNL clubs at the season's end - just my kid.
In spite of that, my kid played through her commitment and National Cup - beating the DMCV team in the process. Force can go F themselves.
Love it!!!
OCSoccerDad3
SILVER
Question for the rule wizards in the group:
Can a player who is registered for ECNL at a club play down on ECRL on a given weekend even if she is not technically “double-rostered”? And vice versa (can ECRL player be brought up to ECNL at any time for one or more games without specifically being rostered on the ECNL team)?
Just wondering if there is really any value or selectivity to this whole dual-roster idea or if everyone (within the club) who is rostered as either ECNL or ECRL is actually able to float between the two teams on any given weekend.
Can a player who is registered for ECNL at a club play down on ECRL on a given weekend even if she is not technically “double-rostered”? And vice versa (can ECRL player be brought up to ECNL at any time for one or more games without specifically being rostered on the ECNL team)?
Just wondering if there is really any value or selectivity to this whole dual-roster idea or if everyone (within the club) who is rostered as either ECNL or ECRL is actually able to float between the two teams on any given weekend.
Per the recently released 21/22 rules, while each team (ECNL and ECRL) can roster a max of 30 players, with 18 on the game day roster, but the players can play in multiple ECNL competitions (ECNL and ECRL) as long as it is only one per day, and the players do not count against the other team's roster. So effectively a club could have 60 players in an age group rostered and choose 18 per game for their ECNL games.
OCSoccerDad3
SILVER
Ok, that was my hunch. So the "dual-roster" concept is somewhat irrelevant and is more of a sales pitch/gimmick. So long as a kid is on either ECRL or ECNL for their club, he/she can play on either team on any given weekend.
It gives all the kids an opportunity to be an elite soccer player if they work hard, put in the time and have a great attitude. I don't like it personally. I would make all the girls tryout and then I would take 18-20 players for one top team and one top league ((fill in the blank)). No discoveries, no college players and no inter club up & down shit. This philosophy in the wrong hands can be used to manipulate 16 year old trying to figure out life. It also takes away from "team" and girls like being on a team. This is a player pool within the club so to speak. The other players who dont make the cut, play in a different league but can stay in the club or try their luck somewhere else. If you drop a player because their burned out or get a boyfriend and just want to be free, then a club should be able to add a player. This is moo and just that.
30 is a much bigger number vs previous season but you still have to take up a roster spot and once done it's for the entire season. For those on dual rosters they take up one slot per team. Could be on 3 different teams buts that's 3 roster spots.
No you can only have 30 on the roster, you can 60 players total only 30 total for the season per team. A player could play ECRL & NL but that's two rosters spots taken. Roster spots don't move with the player.
futboldad1
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I think your post may be inaccurate.........It's been 30 per team for years..... I could be wrong but the fluidity to move between ECNL and RL without being rostered to both is new which is what has turned 30 into 60 per age group...... or 360 total for the six ECNL (180 max) and ECRL (180 max) rosters........ happy to be proved wrong b.t.w but this is my understanding........
Was 26 at one point when our daughter played but yeah 30 now on ECNL and heard it was fewer for ECRL but I don't know the details on that.
There is no fluidity
"No ECNL Registered Players may be dropped from an ECNL Roster during an ECNL Season, except pursuant to the Transfer Regulations... "
In reality a few players get on dual or multiple rosters at most places unless the coaches are the same on both they normally don't share much.
futboldad1
PREMIER
Fluidity within the same club’s Ecnl and rl programs I mean…… 30 can be on each roster and moved back and forth making a pool of 60……. Previously a player needed a card for each league and so the total pool was 30 as they counted as a roster spot on each league….. I am pretty sure I am right on this…….
You could be wrong:
'If a player within your ECNL Member Club is pulled up from a non-ECNL team and/or invited to play for the ECNL team (even for one game), the player must be added to the ECNL season roster for the remainder of the year. Yes, the player will count towards the ECNL Season roster maximum (30 players in all age groups). In saying that, the player is permitted to go back and play with her other team (nonECNL team) during the season. "
futboldad1
PREMIER
Are you quoting from the ECNL 21-22 league rules?
Because I believe things have changed and rule 1.10 says the opposite to the above.......I'd copy and paste but it won't let me, but the 21-22 rules can be found online......