DMCV Sharks Girls Director

AB5 may have made the difference in reporting as an employee vs contractor?

Possibly. Their Other Salaries and Wages entry declined by about the same amount as her reported salary starting in 2017.
 
I've seen the new girls coming over, it's not going to get any better this year.

Things are not going to change overnight. I expect similar team records across most of the age groups for the 21-22 season. I'd bet 22-23 shows meaningful improvement though. Either way, it should be fun to see how this all plays out. Even with the negatives of the DA, at least there was SOME bit of parity with Surf in San Diego on the girls side. Talented players were staying at clubs like Albion and LAGSD (City SC) and keeping old team bonds and/or staying closer to home as they were at least playing in a league with top tier competion. There was also decent geographic disperion between the three clubs. All that went to shit when the DA folded and created quite the mess.
 
Things are not going to change overnight. I expect similar team records across most of the age groups for the 21-22 season. I'd bet 22-23 shows meaningful improvement though. Either way, it should be fun to see how this all plays out. Even with the negatives of the DA, at least there was SOME bit of parity with Surf in San Diego on the girls side. Talented players were staying at clubs like Albion and LAGSD (City SC) and keeping old team bonds and/or staying closer to home as they were at least playing in a league with top tier competion. There was also decent geographic disperion between the three clubs. All that went to shit when the DA folded and created quite the mess.
DA was a "problem" that solved itself. NEXT will be interesting to see if it suffers a simular fate. Both have the same issue they formalize a path to something that doesnt care or necessarily value those in the formalized path. What I mean is that the USNT and Pro teams will pull players from wherever they want.

Reguarding Albion and CitySC. Both Surf and Sharks are right next to each other. If players decide to jump from GA/NEXT to ECNL commute times will be roughly the same either way.

I see Sharks finally getting their house in order as a huge benefit to SD players by opening up ECNL possibilities for 18+ players in each age group.

Also with Presidio being replaced by Socal/Scdsl we're finally going to have a single league for all Socal youngers. All goodness.
 
DA was a "problem" that solved itself. NEXT will be interesting to see if it suffers a simular fate. Both have the same issue they formalize a path to something that doesnt care or necessarily value those in the formalized path. What I mean is that the USNT and Pro teams will pull players from wherever they want.

Reguarding Albion and CitySC. Both Surf and Sharks are right next to each other. If players decide to jump from GA/NEXT to ECNL commute times will be roughly the same either way.

I see Sharks finally getting their house in order as a huge benefit to SD players by opening up ECNL possibilities for 18+ players in each age group.

Also with Presidio being replaced by Socal/Scdsl we're finally going to have a single league for all Socal youngers. All goodness.
Sorry, but in the long term ECNL is not good for the development of high end players. It is a monopoly whose main focus is protecting the interests of member clubs and lining the pocket books of those in charge. It causes local teams not to play one another and drive farther.
 
Sorry, but in the long term ECNL is not good for the development of high end players. It is a monopoly whose main focus is protecting the interests of member clubs and lining the pocket books of those in charge. It causes local teams not to play one another and drive farther.

There’s definite merit to what you’re saying but whether you like it or not it puts 99% of the best players on teams that play each other….competition vs the best a key in sports development
 
DA was a "problem" that solved itself. NEXT will be interesting to see if it suffers a simular fate. Both have the same issue they formalize a path to something that doesnt care or necessarily value those in the formalized path. What I mean is that the USNT and Pro teams will pull players from wherever they want.

Reguarding Albion and CitySC. Both Surf and Sharks are right next to each other. If players decide to jump from GA/NEXT to ECNL commute times will be roughly the same either way.

I see Sharks finally getting their house in order as a huge benefit to SD players by opening up ECNL possibilities for 18+ players in each age group.

Also with Presidio being replaced by Socal/Scdsl we're finally going to have a single league for all Socal youngers. All goodness.
Sharks biggest problem is field space...they don't have much and what they do have isn't very good or it's really expensive. Renting fields from the local high schools is getting more costly every year ($100 an hour if you can get them) and to put quality teams into ECNL you need decent places to practice. Surf has the Polo Fields and City has plenty of high quality, large turf fields (Pine, Aviara, Poinsettia, Stagecoach). Unless Sharks is able develop their own property it's really not going to get much better. Does anyone really think top ECNL girls from Surf are going to jump to Sharks when they just beat them 8-0 in league play? The girls they are going to get are not the the girls they want which is what is happening right now.
 
Sharks biggest problem is field space...they don't have much and what they do have isn't very good or it's really expensive. Renting fields from the local high schools is getting more costly every year ($100 an hour if you can get them) and to put quality teams into ECNL you need decent places to practice. Surf has the Polo Fields and City has plenty of high quality, large turf fields (Pine, Aviara, Poinsettia, Stagecoach). Unless Sharks is able develop their own property it's really not going to get much better. Does anyone really think top ECNL girls from Surf are going to jump to Sharks when they just beat them 8-0 in league play? The girls they are going to get are not the the girls they want which is what is happening right now.
The fields comment is a valid concern.

But, last I heard the same college recruiters are on the field when Surf + Sharks play.

Top players will get noticed (and likely recruited) no matter what team they're on. (within reason)
 
Sharks biggest problem is field space...they don't have much and what they do have isn't very good or it's really expensive. Renting fields from the local high schools is getting more costly every year ($100 an hour if you can get them) and to put quality teams into ECNL you need decent places to practice. Surf has the Polo Fields and City has plenty of high quality, large turf fields (Pine, Aviara, Poinsettia, Stagecoach). Unless Sharks is able develop their own property it's really not going to get much better. Does anyone really think top ECNL girls from Surf are going to jump to Sharks when they just beat them 8-0 in league play? The girls they are going to get are not the the girls they want which is what is happening right now.

I loved the polo fields but good coaches, leadership and players overcomes imperfect fields....... they've long been an issue for Real, Breakers, Arsenal and all outperform Sharks...... Eagles have much much better field access than say Beach but I know who my money is on...........
 
Sharks biggest problem is field space...they don't have much and what they do have isn't very good or it's really expensive. Renting fields from the local high schools is getting more costly every year ($100 an hour if you can get them) and to put quality teams into ECNL you need decent places to practice. Surf has the Polo Fields and City has plenty of high quality, large turf fields (Pine, Aviara, Poinsettia, Stagecoach). Unless Sharks is able develop their own property it's really not going to get much better. Does anyone really think top ECNL girls from Surf are going to jump to Sharks when they just beat them 8-0 in league play? The girls they are going to get are not the the girls they want which is what is happening right now.

What you say is true, and one of the myriad of challenges the club faces. In fact, I think field space was a primary driver for Sharks considering the Surf affiliation a couple years back. If I recall, the ability to use the polo fields for training was going to be part of the deal. I'd have to assume nearby schools like Torrey Pines, Canyon Crest and Cathedral either aren't available or are too expensive. Shark's did have a high school field a while back but it was in Solana Beach I think and not ideal. It's a tough situation for sure, but things can change in a hurry as we know. And no, Sharks will not attract top players from Surf (unless those players/parents developed an issue with the club for whatever reason) and I highly doubt that is their goal or expectation anyways. There's tons of great players in San Diego outside Surf's top starting 11 though that can help build competitive teams and hone their game against some of the best teams in SoCal. Seems like a no brainer to me. Parents and players just have to see the forest through the trees and understand that losing games is not the end of the world or indicative of something overly negative.
 
There’s definite merit to what you’re saying but whether you like it or not it puts 99% of the best players on teams that play each other….competition vs the best a key in sports development
I agree that competition vs the best is the key, but your percentage is way too high. The bad parts of ECNL are the same with any monopoly except it applies to children. The best system was USYS National League and National Championships that provided a pathway for any team to challenge for the championship. Until they change their name to Elite Teams National League, ECNL will miss out on many potential top players who are geographically or financially challenged. USYS National League motto is "Earn Your Place" and by definition, individual ECNL teams do not.
 
Shit this happened long before Deza

Two Vegas Studs and a Camarillo stud all did this on that 99 team for years

Never attended training and always started

That said all were part of the national team pool -
Our friend's daughter lived in Phoenix and regularly played games for Surf. Not unusual at all.
 
DA was a "problem" that solved itself. NEXT will be interesting to see if it suffers a simular fate. Both have the same issue they formalize a path to something that doesnt care or necessarily value those in the formalized path. What I mean is that the USNT and Pro teams will pull players from wherever they want.

Reguarding Albion and CitySC. Both Surf and Sharks are right next to each other. If players decide to jump from GA/NEXT to ECNL commute times will be roughly the same either way.

I see Sharks finally getting their house in order as a huge benefit to SD players by opening up ECNL possibilities for 18+ players in each age group.

Also with Presidio being replaced by Socal/Scdsl we're finally going to have a single league for all Socal youngers. All goodness.
For being in Carlsbad, your info is lacking...you completely missed that SDSC Surf is GA and ECNL boys and one of the larger clubs in the area with plenty of very good talent... additionally, SD Force, although smaller and DPL also has some good talent (On a side note, word on the street is SD Force is struggling to survive post pandemic and may be folding into SDSC Surf)...and both of these clubs are in spitting distance of SD Surf & Sharks. If the Sharks (ie., MW) do this right, they'll have a huge talent pool to draw from and could give SD Surf ECNL some serious, and much needed competition in the area.

I predict that many Sharks parents who have been living comfortably numb at the bottom of ECNL are about to be overtaken by a wave of talented players.

We'll have to wait and see...but the next tryout season should be very interesting in North County SD.
 
For being in Carlsbad, your info is lacking...you completely missed that SDSC Surf is GA and ECNL boys and one of the larger clubs in the area with plenty of very good talent... additionally, SD Force, although smaller and DPL also has some good talent (On a side note, word on the street is SD Force is struggling to survive post pandemic and may be folding into SDSC Surf)...and both of these clubs are in spitting distance of SD Surf & Sharks. If the Sharks (ie., MW) do this right, they'll have a huge talent pool to draw from and could give SD Surf ECNL some serious, and much needed competition in the area.

I predict that many Sharks parents who have been living comfortably numb at the bottom of ECNL are about to be overtaken by a wave of talented players.

We'll have to wait and see...but the next tryout season should be very interesting in North County SD.
I think your reasoning is faulty because you assume these talented players exist. Judging by the low level of D1 soccer and the inability of the vast majority of D1 teams to play a possession based game…why do you think these talented players exist? Does your definition of talented players include the ability to not constantly over dribble, pass, and receive?

If it does, I want some of what you’re smoking on! Puff, puff, pass homie:cool:
 
I think your reasoning is faulty because you assume these talented players exist. Judging by the low level of D1 soccer and the inability of the vast majority of D1 teams to play a possession based game…why do you think these talented players exist? Does your definition of talented players include the ability to not constantly over dribble, pass, and receive?

If it does, I want some of what you’re smoking on! Puff, puff, pass homie:cool:
Isn't it puff, puff, give? ;)
 
For being in Carlsbad, your info is lacking...you completely missed that SDSC Surf is GA and ECNL boys and one of the larger clubs in the area with plenty of very good talent... additionally, SD Force, although smaller and DPL also has some good talent (On a side note, word on the street is SD Force is struggling to survive post pandemic and may be folding into SDSC Surf)...and both of these clubs are in spitting distance of SD Surf & Sharks. If the Sharks (ie., MW) do this right, they'll have a huge talent pool to draw from and could give SD Surf ECNL some serious, and much needed competition in the area.

I predict that many Sharks parents who have been living comfortably numb at the bottom of ECNL are about to be overtaken by a wave of talented players.

We'll have to wait and see...but the next tryout season should be very interesting in North County SD.
You got me there... I was exactly right except SDSC boys has ECNL. Good catch.
 
I think your reasoning is faulty because you assume these talented players exist. Judging by the low level of D1 soccer and the inability of the vast majority of D1 teams to play a possession based game…why do you think these talented players exist? Does your definition of talented players include the ability to not constantly over dribble, pass, and receive?

If it does, I want some of what you’re smoking on! Puff, puff, pass homie:cool:
Brilliant! You win again. *eye roll*
 
You missed SDSC has GA as well... hope this helps.
I missed The GA teams because I wasn't accounting for them. I was only pointing out ECNL clubs.

It's going to be interesting to see how things play out this fall. I'm sure both ECNL + GA are looking to expand.
 
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