Not how politics works.
They won’t go back to significant restrictions at this point. Too unpopular.
Easier to just try to get vaccines out to anyone who will listen, and privately shrug when two thousand or so anti-vax folks die this winter.
Seven stages of Covid.. keep playing and find out how far you will go!
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They won’t go back to significant restrictions at this point. Too unpopular.
Easier to just try to get vaccines out to anyone who will listen, and privately shrug when two thousand or so anti-vax folks die this winter.
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GOLD
I know you have a sarcastic streak but your take is just wrong. The issue in your state is messaging to your black and hispanic communities. They make up the majority of the unvaccinated. Until someone figures it out, they will remain unvaccinated. Are they anti-vax? maybe. I bet their natural immunity is through the roof though. While many stayed home last year, they had to work 2 jobs to make ends meet. It's a shame the message is so politcial. As a progressive utopia, CA should be on top of this and ensuring those that need the vaccine get it. Or at least get better messaging other than get jabbed or else.
This delta surge is at least increasing their vaccination rates. Fear is driving them, not the public health system. Let's work on getting teachers vaccinated, and leave the kids alone.
why would you bet that?
I believe it was the next sentence in that post, which clearly insinuated that a greater percentage of the population in question may work in essential ‘in-person’ industries.
So you think they are immune by prior infection, which may show up in antibody tests?
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GOLD
He knows the deal..
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GOLD
You catch on quick.
Shows up in county case data.
For SCC, Latinos are getting covid at twice the rate of the overall population. Whites and Asians are getting covid at a little under half the rate of the overall population.
So, yes. Our Latino residents have a higher rate of natural immunity than our white and Asian residents.
The hints at racial bias were neither warranted nor helpful.
Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
Keep negotiating, wheeling and dealing …you may find out.
abc7.com
Florida teen who was hospitalized with COVID wants to get vaccinated, says others should too
A Florida teen who spent 11 days on a ventilator after she contracted COVID-19 has a message for her peers and others.
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Soccermaverick
SILVER ELITE
South Dakota has the highest rate of infection in the US this month. That’s also interesting.What demographic is that again?Shows up in county case data.
For SCC, Latinos are getting covid at twice the rate of the overall population. Whites and Asians are getting covid at a little under half the rate of the overall population.
Covid Surges Nearly 700% In South Dakota After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally—An Even Higher Rate Than Last Year
Parts of South Dakota that had very few coronavirus cases are seeing a significant jump in infections and hospitalizations after the 2021 Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.www.forbes.com
Covid Surges Nearly 700% In South Dakota After Sturgis Motorcycle Rally—An Even Higher Rate Than Last Year
Parts of South Dakota that had very few coronavirus cases are seeing a significant jump in infections and hospitalizations after the 2021 Sturgis Motorcycle Rally.
So, yes. Our Latino residents have a higher rate of natural immunity than our white and Asian residents.
The hints at racial bias were neither warranted nor helpful.
Unfortunately a demographic with a high BMI,…
and a latitude that… who am I kidding, you get respitory Illnesses after all. (These extra … are… kinda fun…)
Care to be a bit more direct with your comment?
Always interested in the opinions of the Tier 1A Covid vaccine group. Which box did you check off there BTW?
No need for me to take the bait on that.
My county has a large underhoused population who could not switch to work by zoom. Any group with the same housing and work conditions would have had a rough time of it, too.
The state with the highest rate of increase right now is actually Maine. A mix of red and blue…somehow though I bet it’s Ron desantis’s fault.
Sill looking for high percentage rates of increase in places with low past infections?
You could just sort everyone by [ seroprevalence estimate + Vaccine rate ]. The low end of the sort will give you a nice list of places you can use to falsely claim that various NPI are not effective.
Errr. Maine only has a very limited mask mandate (schools and certain other areas).
I agree you can sort it that way but that’s also bad news for any sort of herd immunity threshold since pre widespread vaccinated and pre the current wave, the seroprevalence estimate for Los Angeles stood at just under 50% (as did India pre delta in most major cities).
the line is moving northward. You yourself said the dakotas had foolishly blown through natural immunity. We’ll get to see how that holds up too.
In the California dept of health regions tracker, for example, cases are falling in SoCal but rising in San Joaquin valley, the sierras, the Bay Area, and the Sacramento area…Northern California it’s too early to tell if still rising or now falling or plateaued.
Bruddah IZ
DA
bangladesh mask study:do not believe the hype
this is one of the worst studies i've ever seen in any field. it proves nothing apart from the credulity of many mask advocates.
people tend to call economics “the dismal science” because it’s so difficult to do controlled experiments. you cannot simply run the economy once with interest rates at 4% then again at 6% and compare. it’s inherently limiting to the discipline.
but this bangladesh study, originally published by “the national bureau of economic research” is so bad that i fear this is way past that. (newer version HERE but this the same study with new data cuts added.) even those legends of non-replication and bias injection in sociology and psychology would not accept a study like this. i have no idea how NBER fell for it.
this one would get you laughed out of a 7th grade science fair.
it violates pretty much every single tenet of setting up and running a randomized controlled experiment. its output is not even sound enough to be wrong. it’s complete gibberish.
truly, a dismal day for the dismal science and those pushing it into public health.
and yet the twitterati (and there are MANY) are treating this like some sort of gold standard study.
“This should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks can be effective in combating covid at the population level,” Jason Abaluck... who helped lead the study said... calling it “a nail in the coffin”
despite wild claims by the authors, it’s not.
this setup and execution is so unsound as to make it hard to even know where to start picking it apart, but it’s easy to throw shade and backing it up is the essence of debate and refutation, so let’s start with the basics on how to do a medical RCT.
this is one of the worst studies i've ever seen in any field. it proves nothing apart from the credulity of many mask advocates.
people tend to call economics “the dismal science” because it’s so difficult to do controlled experiments. you cannot simply run the economy once with interest rates at 4% then again at 6% and compare. it’s inherently limiting to the discipline.
but this bangladesh study, originally published by “the national bureau of economic research” is so bad that i fear this is way past that. (newer version HERE but this the same study with new data cuts added.) even those legends of non-replication and bias injection in sociology and psychology would not accept a study like this. i have no idea how NBER fell for it.
this one would get you laughed out of a 7th grade science fair.
it violates pretty much every single tenet of setting up and running a randomized controlled experiment. its output is not even sound enough to be wrong. it’s complete gibberish.
truly, a dismal day for the dismal science and those pushing it into public health.
and yet the twitterati (and there are MANY) are treating this like some sort of gold standard study.
“This should basically end any scientific debate about whether masks can be effective in combating covid at the population level,” Jason Abaluck... who helped lead the study said... calling it “a nail in the coffin”
despite wild claims by the authors, it’s not.
this setup and execution is so unsound as to make it hard to even know where to start picking it apart, but it’s easy to throw shade and backing it up is the essence of debate and refutation, so let’s start with the basics on how to do a medical RCT.
We could play the Red vs Blue game all day long. The worst counties in terms of deaths per capita are actually blue. Its a fools errand to compare. It also shows that someone is a prisoner of binary thinking. There are so many other variables that impact Covid results. Covid mandates are influenced by party. Covid results are not, because the virus couldnt care less about party, and as we've seen the virus cares very little about any attempts to control it. The only correlation between party and Covid is on CNN and MSNBC. If you want to see a better correlation based on party, check out unemployment statistics.
Bruddah IZ
DA
Ha! Thanks for teeing this up.
My GMU Econ colleague Bryan Caplan ponders Americans’ experiment in federalist dictatorship. A slice:
In short, America is now an elective dictatorship. Unlike almost all historical dictatorships, however, these are dictatorships within a federal system. Every governor makes it up as he goes along… but he only makes it up for his own state. Elections will still happen, possibly replacing one dictator with another. But until those days of reckoning, whoever won the last election has a remarkably free hand to do as he pleases.
What has this freakish experiment in federalist dictatorship taught us? I’m curious to hear your thoughts, but here are the biggest lessons I’ve drawn thus far.
1. The variance of policy under federalist dictatorship has been vast. My friend in Alabama barely remembers the lockdown because it lasted so briefly. Californians endured major – and repeated – restrictions on their freedom for months at a time.
Bruddah IZ
DA
All 50 US governors have been vaccinated, so none of them are literal “anti-vaxxers.” Still, many governors staunchly oppose mandatory vaccination. What’s their motive? High vaccination rates don’t merely make governors’ lives easier. They also reduce resistance to every other expression of normalcy. Could it be that governors who oppose vaccines mandates actually do so… because freedom?
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GOLD
It's not racial bias, it's data that should be used by public health officials. Your comments on standing on the sidelines and watching the unvaxxed die by the thousands help?