Seven stages of Covid.. keep playing and find out how far you will go!

You know what Logan's Run and the 7 Stages of Covid have in common? They're both fiction.
I think it was a description of the patients Karen sees at work.

You both have a selection bias. She sees the sick people. You see the healthy ones. Both groups exist.

If you want to know the ratio of each, about 14,000 people are being admitted to hositals for covid each day.


That’s out of about 160,000 new cases each day. So, if you are diagnosed with delta, you have about a 9 percent chance of going to the hospital.

Lower with vax and higher with no vax, of course.

But most of us try to avoid taking a 9%, or 1%, or 30% chance of hospitalization.
 
I think it was a description of the patients Karen sees at work.

You both have a selection bias. She sees the sick people. You see the healthy ones. Both groups exist.

If you want to know the ratio of each, about 14,000 people are being admitted to hositals for covid each day.


That’s out of about 160,000 new cases each day. So, if you are diagnosed with delta, you have about a 9 percent chance of going to the hospital.

Lower with vax and higher with no vax, of course.

But most of us try to avoid taking a 9%, or 1%, or 30% chance of hospitalization.
The moral of the story is to stay away from a hospital. How does one do that you ask dad? Let Crush explains the 17 basic fundamentals to a healthy life style and a happy life :) This is how to do it Dad. If you can;t do #1 to start, you can;t find out the true secrets to life's riches & treasures. Impossible, 100%. BTW, this is free advice to all my forum friends and to those WHO hate me because of my message of freedom for all.
1. Stop eating meat
2. Stop drinking alcohol ((for now, maybe a few pops later))
3. Eat only Organic ((no GMO or gluten if you can))
4. Stop eating bread
5. Drink lemon water and celery juice first thing. No more coffee from Starbucks
6. Take a walk with Oreo ((your dog if you have one or two)) for 15 minutes and then take Iccy Bear for 15 minutes
7. Meditate and release
8. Start looking for new customers
9. Killer fruit smoothie
10. More calls
11. Lunch ((no meat))
12. Hunt for customers
13. Nuts in between
14. Pound the phones
15. Take salad and head to the beach to thank God for another day to be alive
16. Surf, boogie board or body surf til sunset :)
17. Eat killer dinner and spend the evening with my wife.

Today, I'm hanging with my boy Colin today. He's from Socal but now lives outside of Vegas. He's my best friend who knows the good, bad and ugly about my life. Nice to have a man who will listen and not judge. Were going to surprise my dd at work. He's God Father and my dd mentor in so much. Again, nice to have men who will treat female with respect and help give advice. Colin worked at TGI Friday and is helping my dd get more tips. Anyway, after that were going to my friends private cove and body surf. After that, were going to make a fire and have a special dinner to thank God for our 30 year friendship. Crash on da beach and then if the waves are good, will do a morning session. All healthy eating too. That's how you do life bro.
 
You both have a selection bias. She sees the sick people. You see the healthy ones. Both groups exist.
Who are you kidding, we're all guilty of selection bias. The bigger issue is Covid myopia and failure to understand costs vs benefits. The other problem is two box mentality. Even if your vaccinated and wear a mask, but question any of the two based on good faith information you're labeled anti-vax, anti-mask and pro-virus. Don't question, don't acknowledge contrary information, just comply aka fear driven and emotional decision making.
 
Who are you kidding, we're all guilty of selection bias. The bigger issue is Covid myopia and failure to understand costs vs benefits. The other problem is two box mentality. Even if your vaccinated and wear a mask, but question any of the two based on good faith information you're labeled anti-vax, anti-mask and pro-virus. Don't question, don't acknowledge contrary information, just comply aka fear driven and emotional decision making.

Cost vs benefit can be misleading. We discussed a study a while back on this forum that compared an expensive treatment to a cheap placebo. The treatment produced much better results than the placebo, but the placebo also produced some "cures". On a pure cost/benefit basis, the placebo was better than the treatment.
 
But most of us try to avoid taking a 9%, or 1%, or 30% chance of hospitalization.

Your lifetime chances of going to the hospital from a car accident are slightly more than 10%. Your lifetime chances of dying in a car accident are slightly south of .5%. Your kids lifetime chances of going to the hospital playing contact sports are about 5% and of need some kind of robust medical intervention close to 40% but you let your kid play sports (which frankly for you I find a bit surprising…the stats say over the course of a career it is surprisingly dangerous). Your life time chances of winding up in the hospital with flu are about 15%.
 
I think it was a description of the patients Karen sees at work.

You both have a selection bias. She sees the sick people. You see the healthy ones. Both groups exist.

If you want to know the ratio of each, about 14,000 people are being admitted to hositals for covid each day.


That’s out of about 160,000 new cases each day. So, if you are diagnosed with delta, you have about a 9 percent chance of going to the hospital.

Lower with vax and higher with no vax, of course.

But most of us try to avoid taking a 9%, or 1%, or 30% chance of hospitalization.
I would talk to Newsom about those statistics. Based on his tier system we should all be under significant restrictions. Weird that we are not. It's almost like he doesn't want to do it because it would impact his recall election.
 
Vinay Prasad correctly writes: “When the history books are written about the use of non-pharmacologic measures during this pandemic, we will look as pre-historic and barbaric and tribal as our ancestors during the plagues of the middle ages.”
 

mostly over 60 but the middle age group is growing with the delta variant. Let’s see what happens in the next few months.
Probably the same thing the Life Insurance actuaries tell us via premiums.
 
Florida’s mitigation plan is not working


15 Miami-Dade educators die from COVID-19 in 10 days

BTW, school started in Miami-Dade on Aug 23rd.

So 15 teachers in 9 school days. By the end of the school year Miami-Dade should have about negative 200 teachers. Florida man's dream of being education free is finally within reach.
Hanapaa!
 
FYI..typical false consciousness statement

What does full approval of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine mean?

It means Pfizer’s shot for people 16 and older has now undergone the same rigorous testing and regulatory review as dozens of other long-established vaccines.

COVID-19 vaccines in the U.S. were initially rolled out under the Food and Drug Administration’s emergency use authorization, which allows the agency to speed the availability of medical products during public health emergencies.

EUA's are a nice precedent for bypassing rigorous testing and regulatory review in the future. Shocking isn't it? Tyrants typically have a sense of false consciousness. Moral posturing cracks me up.
 
[T]he majority, oppressing an individual, is guilty of a crime, abuses its strength, and by acting on the law of the strongest breaks up the foundations of society.-- TJ
 
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As an employee of the Commonwealth of Virginia, I had the honor of receiving an email message: “Vaccinations and Mask Wearing.” The message spoke of further requirements:
Vaccination remains the most effective means of protection. We know the vaccines work—since January, more than 98% of COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths have been among unvaccinated Virginians. Do your part and get your shot.
I guess the 98% line is used pervasively. My father urges my 20-year-old daughter, who has had Covid, to get vaccinated. He gives the same 98% line. I guess it’s repeated on television or in the newspaper. I come from a family of lifelong lefties.

The 98% propaganda is the fallacy of mistaking an “If A, then B” statement with its inverse. I don’t know how true the 98% claim is, but let’s suppose it’s true. In fact, let’s suppose it’s 100%, not 98%.

That’s the “If A, then B” statement. If vaccinated (A), then no hospitalization and death from Covid (B).

The inverse of an “If A, then B” statement is: “If B, then A.”

In this case, the inverse would be: “If one avoids hospitalization and death from Covid, then one is vaccinated.” That statement is false.

The truth of an “If A, then B” statement does not by any means ensure the truth of the inverse (“If B, then A”).

For example: “If one is a pediatrician, then one is a doctor” does not imply “If one is a doctor, then one is a pediatrician.”


My father, in fact, is a pediatrician, now retired. He urges my daughter (his granddaughter) to get vaccinated. He tries to justify that urging by saying: “Everyone who is vaccinated avoids hospitalization and death from Covid.”

But if there are other surefire ways to avoid hospitalization and death, the justification may be a complete non sequitur.

We can equally say, I tell Dad:

Everyone who has recovered from Covid infection avoids subsequent hospitalization and death.
Everyone who is 20 years old avoids subsequent hospitalization and death.
My daughter, then, on two counts, doesn’t need a vaccination to avoid hospitalization and death from Covid. Meanwhile, there is so much about the vaccination, its development, its rollout, its liability status, and so on that is unknown and irregular—downright bizarre. The matter is not so simple.

Authoritarianism indoctrinates its votaries and buffaloes others into a false and oversimplified worldview, in which the only important factor is vaccination. But the causes of hospitalization and death are multifarious.

The causes that pertain to the individual are known best by the individual. Contrary to diktats, freedom enables individuals to act on the basis of his or her particular conditions, such as whether she has had Covid, whether she is young, whether she has comorbidities, and so on.

Covid authoritarians might say that everyone has to be vaccinated because of spreading. That, too, doesn’t acknowledge natural immunity. As for the rest, the possibility of asymptomatic transmission of the Covid-19 virus from the unvaccinated is extremely low. So again, all the authoritarians seem to have is propaganda.

Tomorrow my daughter and I shall go visit Dad. I’m vaccinated. But we’ll do a test the day of, just to make sure. Focused Protection.
 
I would talk to Newsom about those statistics. Based on his tier system we should all be under significant restrictions. Weird that we are not. It's almost like he doesn't want to do it because it would impact his recall election.
Just wait till late Sept.
 
I have COPD and I ended up in the hospital at about stage 3 in your description above after coughing for days and not able to clear my lungs. My wife eventually called 911 after I was unable to walk to her car so she could take me to urgent care. One night in the hospital "cured" me -- I can breathe easily now with help of twice-daily inhaler usage, but I still have the COPD.

Feeling your own lungs killing you slowly is no picnic.
That's about 16 million of you in the U.S..
 
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