Meh…I love those stories too and yeah I hate the conservative hypocrisy. My favorite hits though have always been the people like the Obamas that call for racially integrated schools and make themselves champions of the public schools and then send their kids to fancy private schools, or the covid hypocrisy in certain politicians and health experts such as locking down but going to French laundry, getting a haircut, going to a houseboat, flying to another state or country for vacay, going to the gym, or calling for masks and going maskless when cameras are off like at a baseball game. Or maybe hypocrisy might be bad in any political warrior, whether left or right
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Meh…I love those stories too and yeah I hate the conservative hypocrisy. My favorite hits though have always been the people like the Obamas that call for racially integrated schools and make themselves champions of the public schools and then send their kids to fancy private schools, or the covid hypocrisy in certain politicians and health experts such as locking down but going to French laundry, getting a haircut, going to a houseboat, flying to another state or country for vacay, going to the gym, or calling for masks and going maskless when cameras are off like at a baseball game. Or maybe hypocrisy might be bad in any political warrior, whether left or right
I see you are trolling again. The question was re ts style which I contrasted to de Santis who seems to be able to hold it together better than trump without going into mental breakdown. If you can’t even agree that’s a positive well reason 352 why magoo is a troll.
Boom!!!! Left or Right? No. AMERICA!!!!
Btw Miami dade is 73% fully vaxxed in the over 18 and the mayor of Miami has defied de santis with a mask mandate. It’s the worst hit in Florida right now with icu capacity down to 8%.
Dana Bash (CNN): "Some governors, like Ron DeSantis in Florida, Greg Abbott in Texas -- they're blocking imposing restrictions like mask mandates. The virus is surging in those states, as in yours. You are a doctor, you are an official. Shouldn't local officials be allowed to make mask mandates?"
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA): "I'm a conservative. You govern best when you govern closest to the people being governed. If a local community is having -- their ICU is full and people at the local schools see they've got to make sure they stay open because otherwise children will miss out for another year of school and they put in policies, then the local official should be listened to. That is a conservative principle."
Bash: "You disagree with Governor DeSantis?"
Cassidy: "I do disagree with Governor DeSantis, Local officials should have control here. I don't want top-down from Washington, D.C. I don't want top-down from a governor's office. Sometimes in cases of national defense, things like that. But if my hospitals are full, vaccination rates are low and the infection rate is going crazy, local officials should be allowed to make those decisions."
CNN interview here --
Sen. Bill Cassidy (R-LA): "I'm a conservative. You govern best when you govern closest to the people being governed. If a local community is having -- their ICU is full and people at the local schools see they've got to make sure they stay open because otherwise children will miss out for another year of school and they put in policies, then the local official should be listened to. That is a conservative principle."
Bash: "You disagree with Governor DeSantis?"
Cassidy: "I do disagree with Governor DeSantis, Local officials should have control here. I don't want top-down from Washington, D.C. I don't want top-down from a governor's office. Sometimes in cases of national defense, things like that. But if my hospitals are full, vaccination rates are low and the infection rate is going crazy, local officials should be allowed to make those decisions."
CNN interview here --
T, exhibiting leadership on Fox News today --
"Well, first of all, could you imagine if I were president right now and we had this massive attack from the coronavirus, you know, now they like to call it, they have new names and they have other new names, but it's exactly what we had, we had the same thing. If that were me, they would say 'what a horrible thing, what a horrible job.' These are numbers in some cases that are equivalent to what it was, but we don't hear that."
He hasn't lost a step.
"Well, first of all, could you imagine if I were president right now and we had this massive attack from the coronavirus, you know, now they like to call it, they have new names and they have other new names, but it's exactly what we had, we had the same thing. If that were me, they would say 'what a horrible thing, what a horrible job.' These are numbers in some cases that are equivalent to what it was, but we don't hear that."
He hasn't lost a step.
You have fallen low into the abyss you little devil. Wow, let's stay focused on the kids ((what happen to all the kids?)) and all the election fraud and the sting operation. You're the biggest sore loser I have ever witnessed in Debate & Politics 101. Grace and I have been trying to go to 201 and even higher level debate with you but because you lie and cheat, it's impossible to have a fair debate. When you lose, you ignore or call folks coo coo. Last years election sting by the military is what we should all be focused on, not the flu? Nice cover and it was turned on you and your loser friends who manipulated great people to do your evil works. Watermarked ballots? The crack addict Mike will be doing a big show from Aug 10-12. Offering you or any smartass $5,000,000 to prove his pros wrong. It's sad a pillow guy is all we got because of bribes, blackmail and bullying. No sense of right or wrong in your little brain that is filled with hate, division, cheating, lying, murder, blackmail, retaliation, intimidation, bully, disrespect, rude and that's just what we see in the light. I don;t even want to imagine the shit your doing in the darkness. Do you have any ounce of care for the kids? Blame it on those white republicans who also happen to be not jabbed and 100% believe in God, freedom and asking basic health Q to the Docs before experiment is done on them and their children. Do you see what this is really about? You are 100% a non believer in the Lord and that's all this is about. It's ok, I understand completely. I remember you got all butt hurt when I shared about the story in the ancient text about how the asshole men were treating the females and only they could bring a woman who they caught in adultery. Remember that? That was when you said, "I have him on ignore." You are the biggest lying hypocrite ever on the forum. It's not tooooooo late to capitulate
Hurry hurry because time is running out. it would be a miracle if you said sorry to me and Grace for all the evil you do and admitted your wrong doing. Seriously. I can also say sorry for being a little rough on you and a little judgmental at times. We need peace man, don't be a Dick Espola. Repent!!!
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Because he never has lost his step. Have you heard of the Theory of Devolution?
Adam Schiff wants to close the Bay down and Camp Delta. You can't make this stuff up.
"We must close Guantanamo Bay detention facility ((Tribunal Court House)). It can be done safely and it's continued operation is inconsistent with our commitment to the rule of law. That's why I joined 72 colleagues to call on POTUS to fulfill his promise and close it's doors." AS
Lot's of flights and cruise ships dropping off folks I hear. I have a buddy who knows his pal real well and they fly every week towards Cuba and back, like OC to SF on Delta Airlines. He has a NDA that says if shares who the passengers are it's treason and death comes with sharing the NDA. Now that's a gnarly NDA.
"We must close Guantanamo Bay detention facility ((Tribunal Court House)). It can be done safely and it's continued operation is inconsistent with our commitment to the rule of law. That's why I joined 72 colleagues to call on POTUS to fulfill his promise and close it's doors." AS
Lot's of flights and cruise ships dropping off folks I hear. I have a buddy who knows his pal real well and they fly every week towards Cuba and back, like OC to SF on Delta Airlines. He has a NDA that says if shares who the passengers are it's treason and death comes with sharing the NDA. Now that's a gnarly NDA.
Desert Hound
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This has been known (or at a minimum speculated) for some time.O.k. Didn't think I'd be right so quick.
So the vaxxed get and pass along the virus.
Why get the vaxx? Because it severely reduces serious illnesses or death. Good stuff
But...
What is the rationale for trying to limit non vaxxed into places (ie a passport)? The idea was to stop the spread. But if the vaxxed spread...there is no point in those restrictions.
This virus isn't going away regardless of vaxxed or not. We should admit that and move on.
You’re changing the topic. We were talking about Florida.
If Florida’s hospitalization curve keeps growing even 1 or 2 more weeks at the current growth rate, their hospitals will be overwhelmed. DeSantis is betting very heavily that Delta is close to peak. He has less than one doubling time before it happens. If he is wrong, his nationally publicized anti-mask anti-vax policies ae going to make him look like an f’ing idiot.
Which is fair.
I dont have time to do this but do this for me Dad and Espola. Go to duckduckgo and type in.........you know what, forget it about it. You sirs are brainwashed. My wife's cousin's friend has 4 kids Miami-Dade. She can now take her school funds (($$$$$$ to spend for the best and right environment for kids & parents to choose to learn)) and shop for any school she wants for her four kids. Husband bailed on the family 4 years ago. She works her ass off to provide and was getting nervous having her 14 year old teach online again or mask on the kids. She can now shop for a private or charter or even home school community learning. I know so many teachers looking to start their own private schools.
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CNN, Covid Command Center? Did you manipulate this or is CNN really calling itself the Covid Command Center. Who even watches CNN?
He’s not anti vax. He’s come out repeatedly urging vaccination for the over 18. You are now just repeating d talking points. He’s come under fire from anti vaxxed activists for doing that. What he’s opposed is vax mandates.
My point was whether your friends in Australia or de santis/Sweden eventually everywhere is going to end up the same. And I’ll believe the hospital collapse story when we see it. We heard it repeatedly and in the west hasn’t happened, most recently St. Louis. If it’s going to happen Mississippi is most likely to come close.
Bruddah IZ
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10% white democrats????? Say it isn't so!!
Not hospital collapse. Just overwhelmed. Delay patient care. Release people earlier than is optimal.
Reduce nursing staff per patient. Leave patients at home because the hospital has no room.
You've seen it already. LA did it last winter.
Paramedics having some patients stay home as hospitals struggle with COVID-19 wave
Paramedics and emergency medical technicians are declining to transport some patients whom they might take to the hospital under ordinary circumstances.
www.latimes.com
Bruddah IZ
DA
Desantis was relentless about getting his Senior Citz. Vaxxed. Cuomo put infected folks in nursing homes. Different approach to herding.
I gather you don't like CNN, but they are just the presenter there. The data comes from Kaiser Family Foundation.
Lots more from KFF here --
Newsroom | KFF
KFF should be cited as a nonprofit health policy research, polling, and news organization. More about how to cite us.
www.kff.org
The rationale is simple: vaccinated people are less effective at transmission than unvaccinated people, because of the lower viral load in a vaccinated person.
It’s the same discussion we’ve been having for over a year.
You want transmission to be boolean- Sam can/cannot transmit. Sounds nice and makes the logic easy, but the world doesn’t work that way.
The actual world is continuous: Sam, on average, transmits the virus to R people. The key question is whether R=0.72 or R=1.72.