Bad News Thread

The Wall Street Journal reports that the data on which the CDC based its latest mask ‘guidance’ are flawed. A slice:

Another point of consternation for some scientists is the tracking of so-called breakthrough Covid-19 infections among people who have been vaccinated.
The CDC has said such infections are more common with Delta than previous variants, but the agency stopped tracking mild or moderate breakthrough infections that didn’t lead to hospitalization or death in April, before Delta emerged as a driver of the pandemic in the U.S.
Without that additional breakthrough data, scientists have struggled to understand how Delta behaves compared with earlier iterations of the virus, said Daniel Kuritzkes, chief of the division of infectious diseases at Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston.
“It then leaves unmeasured the extent of infection and extent of transmission among vaccinated people,” he said.
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If more Americans don't get vaccinated, there is 'ample chance' for a more dangerous variant to emerge, Fauci says

 
"If we don't crush the outbreak to the point of getting the overwhelming proportion of the population vaccinated, then what will happen is the virus will continue to smolder through the fall into the winter, giving it ample chance to get a variant which, quite frankly, we're very lucky that the vaccines we have now do very well against the variants -- particularly against severe illness," said Fauci.
 
Biden admin apparently will extend the vaxx mandate to foreign entries into the United States. The sticking point is whether it will apply to illegal entries across nonapproved crossing points. The issue of course is central america is running very far behind Europe in vaccination. If they do it, it essentially means shutting down the illegal border crossings. If they don't others will complain they are being held to a higher standard and it may not pass rational basis court review. Hence the delay.
 
I notice Dr. F says, "quite Frankly" "very lucky" "very fortunate" "could be" "the experts" "lingering around" and so much more that it's making me sick to my head. I know we have smart cats at the forum. I learned one thing in life and that is to question everything. So far the the scientists who like to do experiments have not answered my questions with honesty, openness and transparently.

Dad, are we in a war?
 
Grace T. said:
Biden admin apparently will extend the vaxx mandate to foreign entries into the United States. The sticking point is whether it will apply to illegal entries across nonapproved crossing points. The issue of course is central america is running very far behind Europe in vaccination. If they do it, it essentially means shutting down the illegal border crossings. If they don't others will complain they are being held to a higher standard and it may not pass rational basis court review. Hence the delay.
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Grace T. said:
We've had enough people crossing illegally to populate the 10th ranked city in the country. The reluctance to even discuss anything covid relating to this group of people is hilarious. Will there be a vaccine mandate at the border? Are we really serious about the delta variant "pandemic"? Probably not and not really.

But don't worry, no vaxx no food in NYC. I wonder who is going to prepare the food? Imagine being in the food and beverage industry in NYC. It's already hard to find employees - now lets add another barrier to entry. No vaxx no work?
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Grace T. said:
Biden admin apparently will extend the vaxx mandate to foreign entries into the United States. The sticking point is whether it will apply to illegal entries across nonapproved crossing points. The issue of course is central america is running very far behind Europe in vaccination. If they do it, it essentially means shutting down the illegal border crossings. If they don't others will complain they are being held to a higher standard and it may not pass rational basis court review. Hence the delay.
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Amazing run of deduction.
 
Secretary of Defense Austin to announce mandatory vaccine policy for all active duty military

Dad says, "no jab, no job." I get it now you guys.

Don Lemon says, "sorry, no entertainment for you. No going out to eat. No jab, no service."

My friend Jim was just told he need to get the jab to go to court house. He does law stuff.

Gov. say's anti vax are drunk drivers.

Most of my neighbors would want me in jail if I dont take jab.

Sad day today. Grown men making fun of abortion too. Grown men making fun of my dd on this forum for over three years. These guys are losing power and they know it. I heard a 70 year old woman was raped at gun point in NYC the other night. The perp came from behind with a black mask on and another sort of shield to cover his identity. He got a way and is looking to rape again. I know why mask is being forced down our lives now, do you?

Grown men think this is all funny. Guess what fellas?
 
espola said:
About time.
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True story. Espola thinks I make up stories. This friend who will name nameless is a super nice guy but follows orders by his leaders

Friend: Hey bro, just calling you back

Crush: I was confused by your text. Did you say you have a blood clot?????

Friend: Yes

Crush: How did that happen ((He had to go back to work after summer break I believe his industry says they expect all staff to be vaxed, his words not mine.))

Friend: bla, bla and more bla reasons why he has blood clot.

Crush: Did you end up taking the jab bro?

Friend: Ya, but.............my Doc said it has nothing to do with it

Crush: Ok bro, please be safe. Are you taking any medication?

Friend: Yes, blood thiner

That is 100% fact Espola and Dad. Be careful what you psuh on people folks. The Military is watching.
 
Writing in Spiked, Martin Kulldorff and Jay Bhattacharya decry the smear campaign against the Great Barrington Declaration. Two slices:


In October 2020, along with Professor Sunetra Gupta, we authored the Great Barrington Declaration, in which we argued for a ‘focused protection’ pandemic strategy. We called for better protection of older and other high-risk people, while arguing that children should be allowed to go to school and young adults should be free to live more normal lives. We understood that it might lead to vigorous and heated discussions, but we did not expect a multi-pronged propaganda campaign that gravely distorted our arguments and smeared us. We are just three public-health scientists, after all. So how and why did this slanderous counterattack emerge?

In his recent book, Spike, Jeremy Farrar – a SAGE member and director of the Wellcome Trust – has provided a helpful hint: the political strategist and the prime minister’s chief adviser, Dominic Cummings, planned a propaganda campaign against the Great Barrington Declaration. Farrar’s exact words are that Cummings ‘wanted to run an aggressive press campaign against those behind the Great Barrington Declaration and others opposed to blanket Covid-19 restrictions’. Cummings and Farrar preferred a blanket lockdown strategy, believing it would avoid a winter Covid wave.

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[Matt] Hancock, Anthony Fauci, Jeremy Farrar and prominent journalists also mischaracterized the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’, even though any strategy will lead to herd immunity sooner or later. Yes, the Declaration discussed herd immunity. It would be irresponsible to ignore such a basic biological fact. But to characterize the Great Barrington Declaration as a ‘herd-immunity strategy’ is like describing a pilot’s plan to land a plane as a ‘gravity strategy’. The goal of a pilot is to land the plane safely while managing the force of gravity. The goal of any Covid pandemic plan should be to minimize disease mortality and the collateral harms from the plan itself, while managing the build-up of immunity in the population. Shockingly, some politicians, journalists and even scientists denied the very existence of herd immunity. Some even questioned the existence of natural immunity from Covid, which is a bit like denying gravity.
 
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