Bad News Thread

MARsSPEED said:
And watch the numbers explode because of Vaxxed testing positive. This will cause shutdown #2. I just don't understand how I took a vaccination so this could end just to watch our people be manipulated again. There is no rhyme or reason to any of this. The un-vaxxed are even going to be less likely to get the shot now. Meanwhile, the rest of us are punished. I can't wrap my head around it anymore. The new Head of CDC has already been caught twisting data multiple times, most recently with kids. I trusted the old head of CDC more than I trust her. She is just another Political Hack.

"Anyone who has been potentially exposed to the virus should get tested, the C.D.C. now says. Previous guidance recommended testing only for fully vaccinated people who were symptomatic.

In addition to revising its mask guidance on Tuesday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also quietly updated its testing recommendations for people who are fully vaccinated against the coronavirus.

The agency now advises that vaccinated people be tested for the virus if they come into contact with someone with Covid-19, even if they have no symptoms. Previously, the health agency had said that fully vaccinated people did not need to be tested after exposure to the virus unless they were experiencing symptoms.

“Our updated guidance recommends vaccinated people get tested upon exposure regardless of symptoms,” Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, the agency’s director, said in an email to The New York Times. “Testing is widely available.”"
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Why on earth get tested if you are vaxxed?

Give them an inch and they are taking the mile.

Enough of this crap.
 
Time to stop being sheep and to stand up against the various restriction in place and more importantly future restrictions they envision.

No to mandatory vaxxes
No to vaxx passports
No to maks

Etc.

It is amazing how so many people just go along with this crap.
 
Question of the day:

"As for everyone wearing masks, whether vaccinated or not, that's just crazy talk. Either the vaccine works or it doesn't. If it does, we shouldn't have to wear masks. If it doesn't, why the push to vaccinate people?"
 
EvilGoalie 21 said:
And for R0 4, unvaxxed granny is at IFR 0.27. R0 for delta might be between 5-8. So that's an IFR of 0.34-0.54 (Dad4-if I follow the math it should be a simple linear relationship between R0 and IFR; if you think I'm off let me know). Let's say the Grannies and Grandpa's out there are 80% vaxxed, and the vaxx is 95% efficacious versus mortality. That's still 0.085-0.135 IFR. As we get closer to school starting, vaxx rate is flat, delta is flexing it's muscles a bit, that's what's driving this. Remember, everybody else is paying a penalty to try and drive down the effective IFR for the susceptible segment of the population. If he were still with us, Milton Friedman would be doing an old man dribble in his tidy whities.
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Ro4 at 65+44 years old?? Hell I'd say Milton got his money'$ worth at 109 years old. Bestimate Ro 2.5 is .09 for granny. What granny needs at 65+ is the same as everyone else. Good portion controlled meals 6 times a day, sleep 8 hrs a day, healthy weight, daily outdoor exercise, family and friends time. But what they need most is "freedom to choose". That is Milton Freidman.
 
Desert Hound said:
Question of the day:

"As for everyone wearing masks, whether vaccinated or not, that's just crazy talk. Either the vaccine works or it doesn't. If it does, we shouldn't have to wear masks. If it doesn't, why the push to vaccinate people?"
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I have asked you this before -- do you know how any vaccine works?
 
The political analysis on this I think is probably spot on....they've tried to drag their feet on the origins of COVID for a while....their ability to do that (particularly in light of restrictions 3.0 coming out now) is diminishing (they were probably hoping it would be over and people would just forget about it)....they'll need a scapegoat (no one thinks Congress is going to step up and take responsibility for approving the budgets and failing in their oversight)....now that Trump is out they no longer need Fauci....Fauci is the most likely scapegoat, probably in the form of retirement plus thanks for his long years of service and getting is through the worst of it.


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This T hater, Michael Rapaport just went off on Dr. F. He is not happy for now being called a super spreader after obeying and trusting the jabs. I told him I was called a drunk driver so dont feel so bad. Dude is going off on Tik Tok right now. Go check it out. My fair minded and good hearted liberal and Independent pals are starting to see the light and I like that. The sooner some of you wake the hell up the sooner we can start all over. You like living among the liars and cheaters? No more cheaters, how does that sound?
 
The outlines of what Biden's federal vaccine mandate looks like are being leaked out in rumors. Can' verify any of it, but if true, it's pretty smart. The rumors are that it's not going to take the shape of an order that all federal employees must be vaccinated by x date of lose their jobs. Rather, it puts them under a whole lot of restrictions if they don't: they must wear masks (well, that's already a given in DC which today announced a mask mandate but it would apply to any geographical location even without those without a mask mandate), they must socially distance (so no meetings), no visitors, no travel (so much for cushy govt meetings), and twice weekly testing. There are a few stumbling blocks. For example, it's not really possible for the military or DEA to do it's job socially distanced. The other is that non-field, non-public facing office personnel in DC have been working from home (like the US copyright office, library of congress, the general administration)...so they might just use it as an excuse to get out of working in person incentivizing them not to get the vaccine unless there's some form of order to return to work....but would you do that when DC just said cases are now substantial there???
 
Hüsker Dü said:
You are conversing with an all or nothing, no in between, no gray area only black and white type. Those type can’t fathom percentages, trends or democracy. They want their daddy back.
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I have been willing to discuss vaccines and how they work with anyone, but it seems some people's only interest in vaccines is how to spell it.
 
Breaking: LAUSD has announced it in addition to masks will require weekly testing of all students and staff, regardless of vaccination status. Since there is a delay in testing results/incubation, this will mean students will need to be quarantined in the event of exposure to a positive test, though I haven't seen the guidance yet of how long and if there's any difference in vaccinated/unvaccinated students (my guess would be no)
 
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