Bad News Thread

If wearing masks in public is "virtue signaling" (as suggested by an earlier poster), that is action without talking.
I am in Whole Foods this weekend. I estimate 80-90% of the people are wearing masks. In SC County, the % of 12 year-old plus who aren't fully vaccinated is under 19% and likely considerably less where I am. I didn't wear my mask and didn't notice anyone disapproving. This morning I am riding my bike out on a wide gravel service road trail. I see 7 "sets" of 1 or 2 people walking over a 15-minute interval of riding. 4 sets had masks on, and another that had a person that put on a mask as I approached. Then it hit me. Occam's razor. It's fear. That's all it is, fear. It's what drove many to willingly sacrifice their/our children's well-being when science didn't support the actions taken. Science was fine when it supported their fears, but not so much now.
 
So, in the end, virtue signalling.
What? It is not virtue signaling. It is simply basic manners. If you walk into a room and everyone has removed their hat, you remove your hat.

You don't lecture them about why removal of hats is not necessary. You just take off your hat, because that is the social norm.

I wore my mask at WalMart because that was the norm. That is all.

I skipped my mask at practice, because we all are vaccinated and that was the norm there.
 
What? It is not virtue signaling. It is simply basic manners. If you walk into a room and everyone has removed their hat, you remove your hat.

You don't lecture them about why removal of hats is not necessary. You just take off your hat, because that is the social norm.

I wore my mask at WalMart because that was the norm. That is all.

I skipped my mask at practice, because we all are vaccinated and that was the norm there.
As our teachers used to say: “if everyone jumped off the cliff would you???” Come on...surely you’ve used that one. :cool:
 
What? It is not virtue signaling. It is simply basic manners. If you walk into a room and everyone has removed their hat, you remove your hat.

You don't lecture them about why removal of hats is not necessary. You just take off your hat, because that is the social norm.

I wore my mask at WalMart because that was the norm. That is all.

I skipped my mask at practice, because we all are vaccinated and that was the norm there.
Wearing unneeded masks is not normal behavior.
 
It's interesting you use the words "a risk" instead of something like "substantial risk" because it points to you not being comfortable with any risk
You forget. Just a few weeks ago he admitted he had a phobia about the whole thing.

Phobia? Religion? You won't convince either.
 
“We fail to find that shelter-in-place policies saved lives,” the authors report. Indeed, they conclude that in the weeks following the implementation of these policies, excess mortality actually increases—even though it had typically been declining before the orders took effect. And across all countries, the study finds that a one-week increase in the length of stay-at-home policies corresponds with 2.7 more excess deaths per 100,000 people.

The lockdowns simply didn’t work.

 
Whatever happened to cost/benefit analysis?

If experts tell us that masks ( whether of everyone or just unvax) can avoid 100k deaths, then we should put them on this fall and stop complaining. The cost is zero and the expected benefit is positive.

Your overblown talk of "if they make my kid wear one..." is just ridiculous. If asked to help, STFU and do your part to help.

I really appreciate the way you post and I admire that you stay true to your convictions, but your statement above is literally the definition of virtue signaling.

It is entirely contradictory to your stance of “if we can avoid xxx amount of deaths.” I’ve attempted to engage you and others before on masks because I am confused as to the sudden need.

What confuses me is why you and others haven’t made a stance for masks if they can save xxx amount of flu deaths. I am confused how our experts can just now come to the conclusion that masks prevent or even drastically reduce the spread of any virus when they have been around for decades. I am confused as to why these experts haven’t been called out for being complicit in past deaths caused by viruses that could have been prevented by a simple piece of cloth over a nose and mouth.

I don’t know the reason you and people that share your belief have chosen this virus to make a stand on. In a world where we like to say “if we can save just one life...”, why is it acceptable to watch people die every year from something that is supposedly preventable.

It simply doesn’t add up and points to virtue signaling if for no other reason that this seems to be the only virus we try and save people from.
 
What? It is not virtue signaling. It is simply basic manners. If you walk into a room and everyone has removed their hat, you remove your hat.

You don't lecture them about why removal of hats is not necessary. You just take off your hat, because that is the social norm.

I wore my mask at WalMart because that was the norm. That is all.

I skipped my mask at practice, because we all are vaccinated and that was the norm there.

I promise, I’m not coming after you, but I can’t let this go.

Slavery was a social norm in parts of the world, genitalia mutilation is a social norm in parts of the world..:there are/have been many social norms that just aren’t right. Making decisions around whether or not you will be ridiculed, chastised or singled out is nothing more than a fear of not fitting in.

If I went to a tournament in Phoenix and there was a sideline full of people wearing jackets in the 115 degree heat, I am not putting on a jacket. It’s not me that has the problem, it’s the idiots with the jackets on.

Social norms change and social norms can be widely held or only held in much smaller groups. The biggest issue we face today is more and more people are giving in to the supposed norms of the smaller factions of groups and thought. It’s why we change policy based on such small percentages of people and their specific social norm.
 
It’s why we change policy based on such small percentages of people and their specific social norm.
It is why people have been so willing to go along with so many bad things in the past. They don't want to stand out or be singled out.

I have a friend who isn't worried about the virus but will wear a mask if she sees others doing it. I tell her why? There is no mandate, you don't need to wear one. Her response? Well some of those people wearing a mask might get mad and say something to me.

My response? So you are going to wear a mask you don't need and is not required because some people you don't know might not like it?

Screw that mindset.
 
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Any of you ever work in an office with the honor system candy box? The franchise owner would come in on Fridays to collect his cash in one of the offices I used to run. 20 sales reps!!! However, dude told me he barley broke even in our office. I told him not to put it next to the coke machine. He said, "why?" I said because I think good people pay you a good donation but then the bad people steal the coins to buy them a free coke. I caught one of my salesman doing it and he said he would pay it back. Ya right!!!!
 
It is why people have been so willing to go along with so many bad things in the past. They don't want to stand out or be singled out.


Screw that mindset.
Not crush bro. However, it has finally taken it's toll on my soul from the trolls. I know people who hate me so much all because I take a stand.
 
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