Back when you were busy defending your right to go out for beer and pizza, medical staff in AZ were wearing them for 8 hour shifts, trying to help all the people who got infected.
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You 2 aren’t very good at reading your own documents. The document assumes a shortage and is debating extended use v reuse. It even talks about the risks in each case since it’s not the ideal. And while you can do it it doesn’t mean it’s comfortable doing it particularly for the lay person. Remember there was that d congressman who used one comically during the trump impeachment hearings."A key consideration for safe extended use is that the respirator must maintain its fit and function. Workers in other industries routinely use N95 respirators for several hours uninterrupted. Experience in these settings indicates that respirators can function within their design specifications for 8 hours of continuous or intermittent use. "
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This document recommends practices for extended use and limited reuse of NIOSH-certified N95 filtering facepiece respirators (commonly called “N95 respirators”).www.cdc.gov
Btw most lay workers have lunch and breaks which defies one of the assumptions in the document since even medical interns must eat
The document is a direct contradiction to the previous statement.
Reading comprehension
What is incorrect in the quote I posted?
Desert Hound
DA
The CDC says the general public should not wear the N95s. This is from Jan of this yr.
"There's been a lot of back and forth throughout the pandemic with doctors recommending wearing N95 masks, but CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is recommending the general public not to wear them.
"They're very hard to breathe in when you wear them properly," Walensky said. "They're very hard to tolerate when you wear them for long periods of time."
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"Dr. Walensky, as well as Dr. Anthony Fauci, are still saying people should wear a mask, but say the general public doesn't need to wear the N95 ones because they're uncomfortable and hard to breathe in."
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"I have spent a reasonable amount of time in an N95 mask. They're hard to tolerate all day every day,"
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"There's been a lot of back and forth throughout the pandemic with doctors recommending wearing N95 masks, but CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is recommending the general public not to wear them.
"They're very hard to breathe in when you wear them properly," Walensky said. "They're very hard to tolerate when you wear them for long periods of time."
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"Dr. Walensky, as well as Dr. Anthony Fauci, are still saying people should wear a mask, but say the general public doesn't need to wear the N95 ones because they're uncomfortable and hard to breathe in."
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"I have spent a reasonable amount of time in an N95 mask. They're hard to tolerate all day every day,"
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky doesn't recommend general public wear N95 masks | 6abc.com
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Desert Hound
DA
What you miss is this."A key consideration for safe extended use is that the respirator must maintain its fit and function. Workers in other industries routinely use N95 respirators for several hours uninterrupted. Experience in these settings indicates that respirators can function within their design specifications for 8 hours of continuous or intermittent use. "
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This document recommends practices for extended use and limited reuse of NIOSH-certified N95 filtering facepiece respirators (commonly called “N95 respirators”).
They are not designed for long term use.
The CDC said you can wear them for up to 8 hours during the time period when there was a mask shortage.
So hey these aren't designed for that long...the CDC knowing MEDICAL staff had a shortage said go ahead.
Recently the head of the CDC said the public should not wear them for long periods of time. See above.
Grow up espola. Try to have an independent thought occasionally.
Desert Hound
DA
You read and posted a recommendation during the fear portion of the pandemic for starters...and you fail to realize what they said was because there was a severe shortage of masks. So at that point and time said wear them all day (medical personnel).
So as usual you missed the forest for the trees
You didn't show anything incorrect in the statement.
Desert Hound
DA
Other than the head of the CDC and Fauci saying the public should not be wearing them you are 100% correct.
So yeah I guess you got me.
I know you can type. Can you read and understand what you are reading?
Trick question.
The CDC says the general public should not wear the N95s. This is from Jan of this yr.
"There's been a lot of back and forth throughout the pandemic with doctors recommending wearing N95 masks, but CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky is recommending the general public not to wear them.
"They're very hard to breathe in when you wear them properly," Walensky said. "They're very hard to tolerate when you wear them for long periods of time."
--
"Dr. Walensky, as well as Dr. Anthony Fauci, are still saying people should wear a mask, but say the general public doesn't need to wear the N95 ones because they're uncomfortable and hard to breathe in."
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"I have spent a reasonable amount of time in an N95 mask. They're hard to tolerate all day every day,"
CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky doesn't recommend general public wear N95 masks | 6abc.com
You left out this --
"And in fact, when you really think about how well people will wear them, I worry that if, if we suggest or require that people wear an N95, they won't wear them all the time."
Were you being clever there, or just clumsy?
That's not exactly what they said (unless you depend only on your edited version of what they said).
A mask anecdote that actually happened to me -- I spent a night in the hospital in March 2019 because I was having trouble breathing and my measured lung capacity and blood O2 were low. They ran a few tests I expected - blood and urine - and also a cotton swab up the nose until I could see it as a disturbance on the back of my eyeball - like they do now for the covid tests. About noon a doctor came into my room in a surgical gown and mask and put on a fresh set of gloves. She looked over my chart and test results and then took the mask off to tell me I had COPD and nothing infectious such as influenza or pneumonia. Since I wasn't exhaling anything infectious, she didn't need the mask anymore.
So, you knew there was a severe shortage of PPE, and you still thought your right to beer and pizza was the more important consideration.
That kind of says it all.
Hey dad, my pal lives in Columbus and just told me he got his shot and now has a shot at winning $1,000,000. He told me that opportunity to win a million bucks got him to get his shots. Whatever it takes I guess.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has come up with an unorthodox incentive for Ohioans to get vaccinated.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine announces $1M lottery for vaccinated citizens
Starting next Wednesday, adults who have received at least one dose of the vaccine, and are at least 18 years old, may enter a lottery that will provide a $1 million prize each Wednesday for five weeks.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine has come up with an unorthodox incentive for Ohioans to get vaccinated.
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine announces $1M lottery for vaccinated citizens
Starting next Wednesday, adults who have received at least one dose of the vaccine, and are at least 18 years old, may enter a lottery that will provide a $1 million prize each Wednesday for five weeks.
kickingandscreaming
PREMIER
Whatever it takes, cause I love the vaccine in my veins? Imagine Dragons, right?
You are one smart dad bro. Plus, looks like that race horse owner gave his horsey some extra something something so his horse wins. Offering a $1,000,000 prize so you can take shots is whacko all the way from what I see today.
"whip whip, run me like a race horse.
Whatever it takes cause I love the vaccine in my veins"
Hüsker Dü
DA
That is the new age trump Republican in a nutshell. The Reagan era “ME” generation on steroids. It went from the now quaint, “ME first! Outta the way!” to the full throttle, “FUCK YOU! ME FIRST I DON’T CARE IF YOU DIE! I’LL RUN YOUR ASS OVER TO GET WHAT WANT! ME! ME! ME!”
Desert Hound
DA
Actually as usual you have it all wrong. In other words you have no idea what you are talking about.
Let me recap for you...AGAIN.
In March and April of last year I didn't go out except for necessary items. My kids didn't go anywhere.
By May it was apparent who was at risk. AZ started opening up a bit. There were no mask requirements. So I didn't wear any.
In June they decided to institute safety theater and require masks. So in the grocery stores, etc I wore them. For bars and restaurants the rule was to walk in wearing one and then you could take it off for the rest of the time. I followed that rule as well.
My kids wore a mask in school when mandated.
We finally ditched the mask requirements. So I don't wear them except for the few remaining places that want to virtue signal.
So that is what happened big guy. Per usual you got it wrong in terms of what I did.
You keep living in fantasy land that people were going to hide out for months on end not working, or letting their biz die, or not socializing, etc. If you had an ounce of insight you would have known that was never going to happen. People could do 15 days to "flatten the curve". The vast majority of people would not and could not do that for months on end and that was and is your fantasy land scenario.
Desert Hound
DA
You forgot to take your meds.
It is guys like you that keep this country so divided. You are all about coloring inside the lines and following the rules your tribe describes. And everyone who doesn't think like you, you think is the enemy.
You are the perfect example of why there is so much disfunction in this country.