CA youth sports

Closed schools, over time, are a major threat to the long term health of the economy.

Most of the other things are not.
I disagree. Opening schools should be at the very top of the list but so many other businesses have been decimated. All the businesses that continue to be closed (indoor museums, amusements parks, large event venues for weddings or conventions) will definitely effect the economy long term. The hospitability industry is obliterated and is not likely to recover anytime soon. California's poor management during this pandemic will have long term consequences on the state's economy.
 
I mentioned it because you said outdoor sports should be open and pro stadiums should be closed. I'm just responding to you and questioning why either should be completely closed at this point. Our public schools continue to be closed for one reason and one reason only.....a powerful teacher's union and a governor that will not stand up to them. Plain and simple.
You really don’t get the difference?

One has 20,000 people in a giant bowl. The other has maybe 40 people on a field, counting subs.

The first should be closed because it is far more likely to cause infections.
 
You really don’t get the difference?

One has 20,000 people in a giant bowl. The other has maybe 40 people on a field, counting subs.

The first should be closed because it is far more likely to cause infections.
Now do peaceful protests...which Fauci and da gang were ok with.
 
You really don’t get the difference?

One has 20,000 people in a giant bowl. The other has maybe 40 people on a field, counting subs.

The first should be closed because it is far more likely to cause infections.
I absolutely see the difference! And I never said there wasn't a difference. I may not be a statistics person but I'm also not tearing tickets at the tilt-a-whirl. ;) I think the difference is obvious. I was making the point that both things should be open with modifications just like the majority of other states have been doing.
 
I disagree. Opening schools should be at the very top of the list but so many other businesses have been decimated. All the businesses that continue to be closed (indoor museums, amusements parks, large event venues for weddings or conventions) will definitely effect the economy long term. The hospitability industry is obliterated and is not likely to recover anytime soon. California's poor management during this pandemic will have long term consequences on the state's economy.
Societally too we will pay a price. There’s the weddings that are being postponed. Children which aren’t being conceived (because people don’t want to go to the hospital). Mental illness ods and suicide. Children falling behind. Delayed health care. Relationships which can’t get going because dating is restricted.
 
A friend pointed out under the guidance close contacts are required to quarantine (regardless of whether vaccinated or tested negative though a neg test reduces quarantine time). If states adopted the cdc guidance, expect school pods and sports teams to be disrupted into 2022 by periodic quarantined due to outbreaks. It makes parents return to work impossible.
 
A friend pointed out under the guidance close contacts are required to quarantine (regardless of whether vaccinated or tested negative though a neg test reduces quarantine time). If states adopted the cdc guidance, expect school pods and sports teams to be disrupted into 2022 by periodic quarantined due to outbreaks. It makes parents return to work impossible.
(Rolls eyes)

We also quarantine and disrupt sports teams for head lice and strep throat.

It is not a big deal. If you have to do it, you do it.
 
(Rolls eyes)

We also quarantine and disrupt sports teams for head lice and strep throat.

It is not a big deal. If you have to do it, you do it.
No we don’t. What are you talking about. The protocol for head lice is you run a hair check if you have an outbreak and you send every one you find bugs or eggs with home. For strep throat everyone symptomatic gets a test. Even for flu we don’t send entire teams and school classrooms home. When was the last time you had a league game cancelled due to headlice?
 
...or we should mandate no driving for 45 days starting November 15 to stop auto accidents and fatalities, right?
Did I say that?

Do you understand how packed an airport gets come holiday time?

Feel free to drive but it's going to limit people traveling.
 
Did I say that?

Do you understand how packed an airport gets come holiday time?

Feel free to drive but it's going to limit people traveling.
Doubt it would be by much. Some people will just substitute with alternate travel or gatherings. You also have the environmental damage, car accidents, deaths and economic costs such as to the airlines on the other side of the ledger
 
As gross as it is, too many would say you are selfish and willfully harming your fellow citizens - so here we are.

What are you taking about? I didn't attend, too busy making breakfast in bed for the honey.

My son is pretty careful and follows all the protocols. He was playing in a place thats permitted by all the parties involved.

No pets where harmed or anything like that :p he's not in a circus troop.
 
No we don’t. What are you talking about. The protocol for head lice is you run a hair check if you have an outbreak and you send every one you find bugs or eggs with home. For strep throat everyone symptomatic gets a test. Even for flu we don’t send entire teams and school classrooms home. When was the last time you had a league game cancelled due to headlice?
I didn't say we quarantine classes. But we absolutely quarantine students.

The kid who had lice today? He is not welcome back at school tomorrow. Quarantine.

And, if the QB has strep or flu? He misses the game.

Kids missing class or games is not new.
 
I didn't say we quarantine classes. But we absolutely quarantine students.

The kid who had lice today? He is not welcome back at school tomorrow. Quarantine.

And, if the QB has strep or flu? He misses the game.

Kids missing class or games is not new.
Yeah but that’s not this. This is a kid on the team or in the pod getting sick and the teachers/coaches or other students/teammates having to quarantine even if vaccinated and even if tested (though if tested they can reduce the quarantine)
 
Yeah but that’s not this. This is a kid on the team or in the pod getting sick and the teachers/coaches or other students/teammates having to quarantine even if vaccinated and even if tested (though if tested they can reduce the quarantine)
Agree. The whole class penalty for positive tests is painful.

Which is one more good reason to keep masks on when we reopen schools.
 
Agree. The whole class penalty for positive tests is painful.

Which is one more good reason to keep masks on when we reopen schools.
1. Unless the kids are changing them every hour with the long school day they get wet and lose their effectiveness
2. Wearing an n95 or kn95 that long is real uncomfortable. Doubt kids are doing it.
3. They are kids. Adults have problems using them well. Much less kids.
4. The kids could catch it outside the class and the class would still be punished.
5. We don’t do this for flu.
 
Preach it and amen! Double everything in here for youth sports.

In the Bay Area/SF, a hub for technology and progressive thinking, we can't avoid the undeniable reality that Power + Special Interests + Irrational Fear >> Science despite the highest concentration of "wokeness" on the planet. Again, it demonstrates that irrationality and self-interest are human conditions not limited to any "side" of the political spectrum.
 
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