Good News Thread

The J&J vaccine is a game-changer. One dose AND it can be stored in refrigerators. I feel like we should use this vaccine as a completely separate "prong" in the attack. Take it to the high infection rate communities that are also invariably underserved as far as getting the vaccine. Set up in the community center and vaccinate anyone willing to come in. Don't make them sign up online. Bring ID for tracking and get the shots in the arms ASAP. Looks like it will be another 2 months, though.

 
If you get one at work, they'll still make everyone test (including stupidly those that have had the 2nd dose of the vaccine).
OSHA requires 3 positives in the same work area in a two week period to make the whole company tst.. We have had about 20 positive over the last 9 months. We quarantine anyone that was close to the person that got sick.

Looks like our Governor is on our side again.

 
One shot - normal refrigeration. Get this into the areas where the virus is spreading fastest, ASAP. Do walk-ups/drives-ups by age with ID so we can get to those that aren't internet savvy.

 
One shot - normal refrigeration. Get this into the areas where the virus is spreading fastest, ASAP. Do walk-ups/drives-ups by age with ID so we can get to those that aren't internet savvy.

One shot - normal refrigeration. Get this into the areas where the virus is spreading fastest, ASAP. Do walk-ups/drives-ups by age with ID so we can get to those that aren't internet savvy.

I would totally take the j&j vaccine now but would want to continue to wait at least a year to take the mRNA vaccine and would not for years give the mRNA vaccine to the kids. I probably would want my folks though given their age to get the mRNA vaccines (they’ve had first dose moderna)

im already seeing the chicken little crowd on Twitter saying 60%+ is not enough for such a risky virus with unknown long term side effects and all these scary variants. My panicky in laws say no way Jose. The wife of my sons godfather, an lausd teacher, says the jj vaccine not good enough for teachers since they’ll bring it home from the classroom

if we weren’t in such a complete insane irrational panic, the jj vaccine should be prioritized for essential workers in hard hit community and the mRNA vaccines for the elderly and those with severe conditions (downs or uncontrolled diabetes not asthma or being overweight). It’s most likely by the end of this at least 1/2 of us are going to get it....if the thing mutates away from full protection most likely way more...you can’t avoid it forever so whip away the jj shot. Doing this would make things easier to mass vaccinate too since single dose less refrig. But they’ll just say we are fing essential workers for the rich white elderly
 
Colorado offers an interesting "middle" between CA and TX/FL/AZ. My interpretation of the restrictions is: CA > CO > AZ > TX > FL. But it feels like the "distance" between AZ and FL is much less than the distance between CA and CO. I found the story below regarding how CO plans to move forward. In CO, they are talking about the virus exist strategy and are even willing to talk about living normally as early as May-June if you are vaccinated. I just don't see this conversation getting off the ground in CA.

Polis said, adding he hopes the state can achieve a 60-70% vaccination rate by May, June or July. At that point, he said, “it certainly means that for those who’ve been vaccinated … they can generally live the same way they’ve lived in years past.”

Then there are the risk assessment considerations below. Again, I don't see this type of decision making happening in CA. In CA all "risk assessment" is tied to the number of infections. Philosophically, it is a very different approach.

“The question of whether it’s the right time — well, that’s how much risk we want to take,” said Jon Samet, dean at The Colorado School of Public Health and a state adviser on pandemic modeling. “With the pandemic going down in the state, and vaccinations going up, it’s not the wrong time. I’ll put it that way.”

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COVID-19 RESTRICTIONS

State takes first step in virus exit strategy

Restaurants, bars, gyms, offices will move to 50% capacity as Colorado loosens curbs

By Alex Burness

The Denver Post

Most Colorado counties will see more people allowed in restaurants, bars, gyms, offices and event spaces starting at 9 a.m. Saturday.

It’s the first step in the state’s broader COVID-19 exit strategy, one in which Gov. Jared Polis envisions Coloradans returning to nightclubs and sports stadiums as soon as May. He and public health officials hope that by the fall, people will be able to gather indoors with large groups in much the way they did before the pandemic.

Polis announced new details Friday afternoon about the state’s plans to loosen restrictions gradually, and promised more to come. His move comes as the virus is still spreading widely, with about four times as many cases as Colorado saw during the summer.

Every county in every corner of the state still will have to follow Colorado’s colorcoded restriction dial, but the new version — “Dial 2.0” — significantly lowers the threshold of COVID-19 cases that must be met to restore personal freedoms and full business activities.

The softening begins at 9 a.m. Saturday, when the most populous counties — including Denver, Larimer, El Paso, Adams, Douglas, Jefferson, Boulder and Arapahoe — move to Level Yellow, down from Orange,

which opens up capacity to 50% or 100 people indoors. And 22 of the state’s 64 counties will have even fewer restrictions under Level Blue (175 people indoors).

The new dial, Polis told The Post, will be more nimble “to allow for more normalcy” — or less, if case rates move in the wrong direction.

“Every day I wake up asking myself, ‘Can we get rid of the dial?’ I think the answer is still overwhelmingly no,” Polis said, adding he hopes the state can achieve a 60-70% vaccination rate by May, June or July. At that point, he said, “it certainly means that for those who’ve been vaccinated … they can generally live the same way they’ve lived in years past.”

If all goes well, there will be another, more-lenient update to the dial in the next couple months. But that’s a big “if,” given that fewer than 2% of all Coloradans have received both vaccine doses and there are new virus variants making the rounds.

Colorado is somewhat containing the virus — as of this week it had the eighthfewest new virus cases among states, adjusted for population — resulting in lower hospitalizations and deaths. But the statewide case count on average is approximately twice as high as when Polis issued a statewide stay-at-home order in the spring (partly a reflection of increased testing capacity).

Plus there’s concern, particularly for and among low-income people and people of color, that Polis is moving too quickly toward a greater normalcy.

“The question of whether it’s the right time — well, that’s how much risk we want to take,” said Jon Samet, dean at The Colorado School of Public Health and a state adviser on pandemic modeling. “With the pandemic going down in the state, and vaccinations going up, it’s not the wrong time. I’ll put it that way.”
 
I feel like this is good news (taken from NY Times), although I am not sure about how children are included/excluded given we don't have a vaccine that is approved for children. With any luck, the J&J will work for them and we can get that out soon. I think we saturate adults interested in having the vaccine before July, with the bit of accelerration we are seeing and the J&J vaccine coming out in a couple of weeks.

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I feel like this is good news (taken from NY Times), although I am not sure about how children are included/excluded given we don't have a vaccine that is approved for children. With any luck, the J&J will work for them and we can get that out soon. I think we saturate adults interested in having the vaccine before July, with the bit of accelerration we are seeing and the J&J vaccine coming out in a couple of weeks.

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The problem with the j&j vaccine is the much lower efficiency. Some people won’t want to take it because of that particularly once the scare of the South Africa variant hits the mainstream. Biden admin just bought a new round of mRNA vaccine so they seem to be leaning more heavily towards that which means a slower roll out due to handling requirements unlike the j&j which could be rolled out to every cvs across the country
 
The problem with the j&j vaccine is the much lower efficiency. Some people won’t want to take it because of that particularly once the scare of the South Africa variant hits the mainstream. Biden admin just bought a new round of mRNA vaccine so they seem to be leaning more heavily towards that which means a slower roll out due to handling requirements unlike the j&j which could be rolled out to every cvs across the country
Why not have a completely separate effort with younger "spreaders" with the J&J vaccine, then - assuming we have enough resources to do so without slowing down the mRNA vaccination effort. Any slowing of the spread reduces the chances of mutations, correct?
 
Plenty of new treatment options seem to be reducing negative outcomes. I’ve seen several news stories recently that haven’t made the good news thread. If we’re moving from pandemic to endemic, these stories are the real ‘good news’.
Improved treatment options are a big deal. I haven't seen/heard much of any of it recently. Please post any you have seen.
 
Improved treatment options are a big deal. I haven't seen/heard much of any of it recently. Please post any you have seen.
 
Improved treatment options are a big deal. I haven't seen/heard much of any of it recently. Please post any you have seen.
Part of the issue is a lot of drugs have been shown to help including hdq and invermectin (sp?) but they don’t have eu authorization due to politics and fda limitations. So you have to rely on doctors working off script. I don’t know which drugs have gotten the eu authorization (if someone knows please post) but it’s supposedly a lot less than the known treatmdnts that work
 
Part of the issue is a lot of drugs have been shown to help including hdq and invermectin (sp?) but they don’t have eu authorization due to politics and fda limitations. So you have to rely on doctors working off script. I don’t know which drugs have gotten the eu authorization (if someone knows please post) but it’s supposedly a lot less than the known treatmdnts that work

If by "hdq" you mean hydroxychloroquine, it's not politics that holds back approval.. It is a lack of demonstrated benefit.
 
If by "hdq" you mean hydroxychloroquine, it's not politics that holds back approval.. It is a lack of demonstrated benefit.
Don’t have the time right now to look it up for you but there have been several studies now that show some mild-moderate benefits if admined early
 
Don’t have the time right now to look it up for you but there have been several studies now that show some mild-moderate benefits if admined early

"Hydroxychloroquine did not substantially reduce symptom severity in outpatients with early, mild COVID-19."

 
Here's a good summary of why there aren't a whole lot of good therapeutics (and unlikely to be a whole lot more in the near future). Part of it is the very high threshold for testing set out by the FDA. Part of it too is just Fauci...he made the decision early on to go all in on the vaccines (which is now coming back to bite all of us in the ass since the vaccines are not 100% effective). Without doing a deep dive onto Fauci, It's hard to speculate the reasons why.

 
"Hydroxychloroquine did not substantially reduce symptom severity in outpatients with early, mild COVID-19."


Yeah there are some contra too. Regardless, I agree it isn't a magic bullet. I agree the evidence is in dispute and there's more contra than pro.

 
Yeah there are some contra too. Regardless, I agree it isn't a magic bullet. I agree the evidence is in dispute and there's more contra than pro.


From that article-- "It was widely used in hospitals during a time of unprecedented desperation, a practice that stopped after some studies found no clinical benefit for seriously ill patients."
 
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