Girls Development Academy

Yes, kids go to ivys. But no, none of these kids signed a letter of intent. There is no such thing. I'm glad the schools let them celebrate in the day's events.

yaya ok ok.....getting back on point with post 713 by Soccermanifesto.....

Based on the academic list, still feeling like WC and RSC got the shaft:eek:
 
Watched (skipped through) SC blues v solar Chelsea today. Not sure what to make of that game. The ball was in the air a whole lot. Former team played v SC blues in CRL (they hung 10 on us) I know they can pass the ball around like a pro team, but that game today was tough to watch. Anyway. I will always cheer for a SoCal team in national competition.
Just watched the game myself. Solar Chelsea played some pretty soccer on the ground and connected from back to front. Blues played kick ball all game and ran out of gas with very few subs. With their stud center defender injured in 1st game, their defense was never the same. In the box, Blues was vulnerable. Solar Chelsea was by far the more dominant team and deserved the Championship. For once kickball soccer didn't prevail. Cheers to Solar Chelsea!! Good luck to the Team in Surf Cup!!
 
It is surprising how well they correlate. The soccer school ranking do change 10-20 spots each year or two, but in general they are the same.
Who am I missing that are in both besides?
Duke, ND, Stanford, UNC, Virginia

This group I think need to make final four a few more times to be "both"
UCLA and USC

Zoro,

UCLA has made it to more college cups than Virginia or Stanford.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Women's_Soccer_Championship

I would say that qualifies.
 
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What is comical? Nothing is funny, if Sweetsplat was receiving threatening PM's from AZ posters.
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No one on the forum is anonymous. Everyone leaves a trail of bread crumbs that eventually reveals their identity and why MessiFTW should be careful, if he is carrying the Sweetsplat banner now.

For example: Sweetsplat used to post A LOT of crap on SoCal players and teams. He was easy to ID, because he concentrated his post on 2 age groups. He was pro ECNL, lived in AZ. There are only 2 ECNL clubs in AZ. He posted a lot about Sereno winning an ECNL Championship, so it was a subconscious tell that his older DD played on that team. Cross reference that Sereno team roster with the younger ECNL roster (age group he posts on) for matching last names. Then Google the player's first, last name and ECNL.... Viola identity uncovered. Some crazy parents post their private information like home address, phone number and email on their DD's ECNL bio. Good thing it's a new forum and ALL the bread crumbs have been swept away.

Do people really do this?

New to these forums and got caught up into this thread, but why do people get so angry with other people on this forum? Aren't we all just soccer fans with kids that play soccer?

By the way, the Pink Panther comments made me laugh since I coached an AYSO team last year named the Purple Panthers. Our banner looked great. :)
 
yaya ok ok.....getting back on point with post 713 by Soccermanifesto.....

Based on the academic list, still feeling like WC and RSC got the shaft:eek:
Do we think that there will be 1 more list of clubs to be given Academy status in the 1st year? Doesn't seem like there are enough clubs compared to the boys academy?
 
Yes, kids go to ivys. But no, none of these kids signed a letter of intent. There is no such thing. I'm glad the schools let them celebrate in the day's events.
So, if any player verbally commits to play a college sport, but didn't get an athletic scholarship offer. Does the player still sign a LOI in February iof their Sr year?
 
Yes, kids go to ivys. But no, none of these kids signed a letter of intent. There is no such thing. I'm glad the schools let them celebrate in the day's events.
Those be rowing schools. Princeton coach spent the day with us, assigned a rower to son and took him to class. Funny, it was an economics class that got him so interested in econ, that is what he wants (now) for his major. I think i posted this. I love this coach Martin Crotty. He makes a subtle comment about "this boat" and feel and swagger. They destroyed all but the USNT 4 weeks later.
I just love rowing. but my kid did not - even for an Ivy.
But I got video...
 
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So, if any player verbally commits to play a college sport, but didn't get an athletic scholarship offer. Does the player still sign a LOI in February iof their Sr year?
No. But schools and clubs will honor them in the the celebration.
In this case - same as an Ivy athlete.

For parents not concerned about the money part so much, I think this is absolutely the best way to go.
Use soccer to get you in. Player has way more choices and is free to leave. Player does not have pressure to perform or leave school. It is gut wrenching sad (to me) to see a player leave the team and go to another school because for whatever reason coach can't fund them anymore.

There is a push toward 4 year agreements. While I dislike the money for sports in college idea, I think once a player takes the "job" they need some protection.
 
Zoro,

UCLA has made it to more college cups than Virginia or Stanford.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_Women's_Soccer_Championship

I would say that qualifies.
Final Four counts - College Cup pool does not.
So count Final Four appearances last 20 years with last 10 being most important. finals being even more important and Winning - the most.

I don't know the numbers for that.

UCLA may be there, but a great soccer school has never had the season UCLA did last year.

It is of course a subjective ranking. UCLA/USC could be there. As UNC could be on the academic list.
 
US News and World Report Top 26 Universities
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Southern California Girls Recruits 2016-2019 Graduation Years (updated)


1. Princeton: LA Premier 1, Surf 1, Real So Cal 1, Slammers 1
2. Harvard: WC 1, Blues 1, LA Premier 1
3. Yale: Blues 1
4. Columbia: Real So Cal 1, Eagles 1
5. Stanford: Strikers 2, Slammers 2, Eagles 1, Blues 3, WC 1, Real So Cal 3, Beach 1, La Premier 1
6. University of Chicago: Blues 1
7. M.I.T.: N/A
8. Duke: Surf 1, Slammers 2, Real So Cal 2
9. University of Pennsylvania : Surf 1
10. California Institute of Technology: N/A
11. Johns Hopkins University: 0
12. Dartmouth: WC 1
13: Northwestern: Legends 1, Beach 1
14. Brown: Real So Cal 1, Beach 1
15: Cornell: 0
16. Vanderbilt: Slammers 1
17. Washington University in St. Louis: NA
18. Rice: WC 1
19. Notre Dame: Real So Cal 2, Blues 2, Slammers 2
20. Cal: Blues 1, Surf 2, Beach 1, Legends 2
21. Emory: 0
22. Georgetown: Surf 2
23. Carnegie Mellon: FRAM 1
24: UCLA: Surf 3, Blues 6, WC 3, Slammers 1
25. USC: Carlsbad United 1, Surf 2, Eagles 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2, Beach 2, Blues 2
26. Virginia: 0


NCAA Women’s Soccer Rankings Top 26
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Southern California Girls Recruits 2016-2019 Graduation Years

  1. Penn State: Slammers 2
  2. Florida State: Surf 1
  3. Rutgers: Slammers 1
  4. Virginia: 0
  5. Stanford: Strikers 2, Slammers 2, Eagles 1, Blues 3, WC 1, Real So Cal 3, Beach 1, La Premier 1
  6. Duke: Surf 1, Slammers 2, Real So Cal 2
  7. West Virginia: 0
  8. Florida: 0
  9. UConn: 0
  10. Clemson: 0
  11. Notre Dame: Real So Cal 2, Blues 2, Slammers 2
  12. Auburn: Blues 2
  13. Virginia Tech: WC 1
  14. USC: Carlsbad United 1, Surf 2, Eagles 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2, Beach 2, Blues 2
  15. North Carolina: Eagles 1
  16. Texas A& M: 0
  17. Southern Alabama: 0
  18. Texas Tech: Legends 1
  19. South Florida: 0
  20. Arizona: WC 1, Surf 2, Slammers 1, Legends 2, Blues 4
  21. Ohio State: Real So Cal 1, WC 1, Carlsbad United 1
  22. BYU: Albion 1, WC 1, Arsenal 1
  23. Cal: Blues 1, Surf 2, Beach 1, Legends 2
  24. Ole Miss: Surf Inland Empire 1
  25. Cal State Fullerton: Carlsbad United 2, WC 2, Beach 1, Real So Cal 2, Albion 1, Eagles 1, Slammers 1
  26. Santa Clara: WC 3, Slammers 1, La Galaxy South Bay 1, Beach 1, Surf 1, Blues 1
Lists are now revised to reflect Top Academics AND Top 26 soccer programs as reported by the NCAA. Penn State is obviously the National Champs. Very few 2019 So Cal recruits but there are several.
 
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US News and World Report Top 26 Universities
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Southern California Girls Recruits 2016-2019 Graduation Years (updated)


1. Princeton: LA Premier 1, Surf 1, Real So Cal 1, Slammers 1
2. Harvard: WC 1, Blues 1, LA Premier 1
3. Yale: Blues 1
4. Columbia: Real So Cal 1, Eagles 1
5. Stanford: Strikers 2, Slammers 2, Eagles 1, Blues 3, WC 1, Real So Cal 3, Beach 1, La Premier 1
6. University of Chicago: Blues 1
7. M.I.T.: N/A
8. Duke: Surf 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2
9. University of Pennsylvania : Surf 1
10. California Institute of Technology: N/A
11. Johns Hopkins University: 0
12. Dartmouth: WC 1
13: Northwestern: Legends 1, Beach 1
14. Brown: Real So Cal 1, Beach 1
15: Cornell: 0
16. Vanderbilt: Slammers 1
17. Washington University in St. Louis: NA
18. Rice: WC 1
19. Notre Dame: Real So Cal 2, Blues 2, Slammers 1
20. Cal: Blues 1, Surf 2, Beach 1, Legends 2
21. Emory: 0
22. Georgetown: Surf 2
23. Carnegie Mellon: FRAM 1
24: UCLA: Surf 3, Blues 6, WC 3, Slammers 1
25. USC: Carlsbad United 1, Surf 2, Eagles 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2, Beach 2, Blues 2
26. Virginia: 0


NCAA Women’s Soccer Rankings Top 26
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Southern California Girls Recruits 2016-2019 Graduation Years

  1. Penn State: Slammers 2
  2. Florida State: Surf 1
  3. Rutgers: Slammer 1
  4. Virginia: 0
  5. Stanford: Strikers 2, Slammers 2, Eagles 1, Blues 3, WC 1, Real So Cal 3, Beach 1, La Premier 1
  6. Duke: Surf 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2
  7. West Virginia: 0
  8. Florida: 0
  9. UConn: 0
  10. Clemson: 0
  11. Notre Dame: Real So Cal 2, Blues 2, Slammers 1
  12. Auburn: Blues 2
  13. Virginia Tech: WC 1
  14. USC: Carlsbad United 1, Surf 2, Eagles 1, Slammers 1, Real So Cal 2, Beach 2, Blues 2
  15. North Carolina: Eagles 1
  16. Texas A& M: 0
  17. Southern Alabama: 0
  18. Texas Tech: Legends 1
  19. South Florida: 0
  20. Arizona: WC 1, Surf 2, Slammers 1, Legends 2, Blues 4
  21. Ohio State: Real So Cal 1, WC 1, Carlsbad United 1
  22. BYU: Albion 1, WC 1
  23. Cal: Blues 1, Surf 2, Beach 1, Legends 2
  24. Ole Miss: Surf Inland Empire 1
  25. Cal State Fullerton: Carlsbad United 2, WC 2, Beach 1, Real So Cal 2, Albion 1
  26. Santa Clara: WC 3, Slammers 1, La Galaxy South Bay 1, Beach 1, Surf 1, Blues 1
Lists are now revised to reflect Top Academics AND Top 26 soccer programs as reported by the NCAA. Penn State is obviously the National Champs. Very few 2019 So Cal recruits but there are several.

Is that NCAA top 26 just last year's final RPI?
 
Is that NCAA top 26 just last year's final RPI?

Yes. Rankings from the NCAA website. Everything else is projections and speculation.

Worth noting that some of the Top 26 Academic schools will deny admissions usually claiming grades but not always. College Coaches keep in touch with their recruits, know their grades and talk to their recruits about their academics, and provided the student's grades & test scores are not a disaster, the Coaches have some level of sway with the Admissions Board.

So you can decide for yourself if there is buyers remorse by Coaches at a University with a player denied admission... Said "denied" player would cost scholarship money the Coach may now want to commit elsewhere (but was cleverly taken off the market to rival colleges, which now leaves the kid scrambling) OR if the recruit was denied admission for legitimate reasons.
 
I find that Forbes list suspect. I know a little bit about Haverford, lovely school, but not number 23 in the nation in my opinion. US News has traditionally been considered the definitive list, its the one Admissions Deans and School Presidents freak out about when the list comes out, but your mileage may vary.

The pay list is suspect also. It is based on graduates "who completed the[ir] pay scale survey." Plus I would quibble with the salary ceiling of # 1 ranked SUNY Maritime College.

That said, any of the top 26 on any of those lists are pretty good Academic institutions.
 
I am not a statistician, but I would say if your kid starts on a Blues ECNL team, I really like their odds of getting recruited by a top school. How much of that is the power of the Blues Brand and great coaching or whether they REALLY have all the top talent in the area can be debated. But the numbers are what they are.

ECNL homers: Blues, Slammers, Real So Cal, West Coast, and Surf simply crush the number of recruits to top Academic and top D1 Soccer schools versus non-ECNL clubs.

ECNL dissenters: Beach and Legends have roughly the same number of recruits to top schools, and outnumber the number of ECNL stalwarts Eagles, Arsenal, and Strikers to top Academic and D1 soccer schools.

West Coast and Real So Cal have a great case to make to become DAs, unless they chose not to or don't meet some unknown criteria.

If your daughter got into a college she loves because of soccer whether its Division 1 or Division 3 that she might normally have not gotten into so easily, that's all that matters.
 
Just watched the game myself. Solar Chelsea played some pretty soccer on the ground and connected from back to front. Blues played kick ball all game and ran out of gas with very few subs. With their stud center defender injured in 1st game, their defense was never the same. In the box, Blues was vulnerable. Solar Chelsea was by far the more dominant team and deserved the Championship. For once kickball soccer didn't prevail. Cheers to Solar Chelsea!! Good luck to the Team in Surf Cup!!
Hats off to Chelsea, and to Blues for a great game. Game sure had a USA vrs France feel to it. Teams obvioulsy had differnt styles of play and It was a very great matchup. All the girls should be proud of their performances. I have to admit, I was disappointed at the result, as I was cheering for Blues, (Socal) the Home Team. It was great to be able to watch and cheer on the Socal Teams at home. Chelsea took the Game that mattered to be crowned Champs, but i think Blues would win most of the time these teams played eachother.......
 
I'm sorry, I think you said, but where are the recruit numbers coming from? For example-- if you go on Blues website and look under teams, they have the 2016-17 commits up and, while impressive, it doesn't look quite like this breakdown.
 
The list includes known 2016, 2017, 2018 graduates and a handful of 2019 graduates.

The list is pulled from 3 sources:

Soccercbg's list and spreadsheet on google... He's also on Twitter. When some schools get a verbal commitment they tell him "off the record" so other teams back off...

Topdrawersoccer's commitments list

People here who reported some recent recruits that I included on the honor system.
 
Also, kudos to those two non-ECNL clubs for getting that number and caliber of college for their girls WITHOUT the benefit of ECNL. If you go to Beach's site and click on College Commits, go back a couple years, you will see Princeton, more Brown, University of Chicago, along with NYU, Boston College, Amherst etc. They obviously work very hard for their girls. And I'd imagine that's true of any club with good numbers on these lists. I always think it's important to do your research before joining a club-- those with good numbers of top college commits show a dedication to helping girls succeed in soccer and in life.
 
The list includes known 2016, 2017, 2018 graduates and a handful of 2019 graduates.

The list is pulled from 3 sources:

Soccercbg's list and spreadsheet on google... He's also on Twitter. When some schools get a verbal commitment they tell him "off the record" so other teams back off...

Topdrawersoccer's commitments list

People here who reported some recent recruits that I included on the honor system.
Thanks for your efforts. It's interesting!
 
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