President Joe Biden

I just find this very disturbing. Political thought is starting to be suppressed online.

"Parler, which emerged as a Twitter alternative for conservatives, officially went offline on Monday after Amazon Web Services refused to host the site any longer. Following the Capitol riots on Wednesday, Apple and Google removed Parler from their app stores, claiming the site had refused to take down posts inciting violence. On Saturday, Amazon announced it would follow suit after employees pressured the company to remove Parler.



Parler saved its data and prepared to switch to a different provider, but on Monday, Parler CEO John Matze announced the process would take longer than expected.

“I wanted to send everyone on Parler an update,” Matze posted. “WE will likely be down longer than expected. This is not due to software restrictions—we have our software and everyone’s data ready to go. Rather it’s that Amazon’s, Google’s, and Apple’s statements to the press about dropping our access has caused most of our other vendors to drop their support for us as well.”
 
NorCalDad said:
My point is the goal is different. The Dems use it more for posturing -- and highlighting voter suppression. The repubs actually wanted the election results overturned. They're different. Both Biden and Gore when they were VPs handled these situations with grace....as did Pence on 1/6.
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In 2016, the “black people” Karen Grace claims started this objected for the purpose of opposing racism in the election process. In 2020, ‘publicans objected for the purpose of preserving it after their years of efforts finally stopped working for the whiny losers AND ALSO because they knew that objecting would contribute to efforts to overthrow the government of the United States by their trumpanzee buddies who were storming the Capitol at that very moment. If the black people that Frau Karen Grace blames for the insurrection four years later had an angry mob on the doorstep at the time and Obama had been inciting that mob by claiming ‘publicans had stolen the election, and literally walked them up to the doorsteps, then yes it would be a similar situation. Instead, she’s just making false equivalencies in defense of the immoral, racist, magats that those black house members were opposing both then and now.

The danger of people like Frau Appraser lady is they don’t care about right and wrong. Rather, they hide behind false equivalencies and “process” to tear down the appropriate, lawful and moral use of mechanisms to preserve our democracy by pointing to instances in which the side they are defending it has used those processed improperly and immorally. But that’s what ‘publicans do, what they have always done, and will always do. Until they stop pointing to the appropriate and moral use of legal processes to justify their inappropriate immoral use of those processes, they need to pay. People like Frau Karen will never, ever admit they were wrong. Even her fake apology above minimizes the incredibly important difference between the 2/3 majority requirement, and then she turns around and trashes the people who are actually right gor pointing it out. So magaty passive aggressive. I recognized this in people like her, and co-opted their tactic, a long time ago. ScI have been saying, the only way to rid our country of their cancer is to go down into the muck where they live and stomp them there. Grace Karen will see the effectiveness of this method in short order now that the entire Dem party has learned what I learned many moons ago. While President Biden smiles and takes the high ground in public, he will let the DOJ, the NY AG, the IRS, Congress and everyone else go get these bottom feeders where they are. Happy hunting Pelosi and friends!
 
Desert Hound said:
I just find this very disturbing. Political thought is starting to be suppressed online.

"Parler, which emerged as a Twitter alternative for conservatives, officially went offline on Monday after Amazon Web Services refused to host the site any longer. Following the Capitol riots on Wednesday, Apple and Google removed Parler from their app stores, claiming the site had refused to take down posts inciting violence. On Saturday, Amazon announced it would follow suit after employees pressured the company to remove Parler.



Parler saved its data and prepared to switch to a different provider, but on Monday, Parler CEO John Matze announced the process would take longer than expected.

“I wanted to send everyone on Parler an update,” Matze posted. “WE will likely be down longer than expected. This is not due to software restrictions—we have our software and everyone’s data ready to go. Rather it’s that Amazon’s, Google’s, and Apple’s statements to the press about dropping our access has caused most of our other vendors to drop their support for us as well.”
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Dear Seditionists -

Welcome to the United States of America and its 1st Amendment and free market. If you wanted Parler to have a bigger, stronger presence, it would help if the ideas you value so much weren’t such s**t and actually had value. If you’ve got a problem with it, stop buying swag from Amazon and get a Nokia flip phone. Does Netscape still exist? If so, you can use their search engine instead of Google. Oh, and I hope you aren’t a golf fan, ‘cuz the PGA squeezed all the juice out of the deranged orange.

In short, you can try to s**t on the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights all you want, but good luck with that. What’s your Parler handle anyway? Asking for a friend (at the DOJ). Oh, never mind, they already know it.

Hugs and Kisses,

Nancy Pelosi

cc: Jeff Bezos
 
Grace T. said:
You are quite correct. I was an error on the percent (see another example of graciousness which you don't tend to see from extremists on the left). It's a majority for censure.

BTW, I've never claimed to be a Constitutional Lawyer and have said specifically it's not my forte....I know the basics. Doubt we'll see the same graciousness from you.
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You have just admitted that you don't know the basics.
 
Grace T. said:
the D's knives out continue. The NY Bar now has begun an inquiry to disbar Rudy Guiliani

The D's have filed impeachment articles (vote Wednesday, earliest they can be taken up by the Senate is the day before the inauguration but Ds still talking about maybe filing after first 100 days) on the grounds on inciting an insurrection (they have the obvious problem there that Trump did not command his people to engage in violence of seize the Capitol, and he told them to go home...which leads to the curious question that (if they cared) how the Ds are going to make this case).
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Still advocating for your supposed clients?
 
Grace T. said:
Yes, unlikely...the fact that the Europeans and Mexicans can see the danger of this should tell us how far gone some on the left are that they can't (and yes, I hold the Trumpkins to the same standard for their thought they could get a court or congress or the VP or a coup to overturn a democratic election). Both sides in the US have gone insane.
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Nonsense. The idea that crimes have consequences is not an insane thought.
 
espola said:
Still advocating for your supposed clients?
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I may be Mr. Magoo, but I see through you yeah.
(Stupid fool, old Magoo)
You got a way to suck me in
And then you spit me out again
I try to take it on the chin
But I bump into everything
You know the way to keep me blind
Diggin that silly old grin of mine
 
espola said:
Nonsense. The idea that crimes have consequences is not an insane thought.
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Cuckoo. You are punishing a 3rd party ISP for the content of its users (not all of whom are Trumpkins and the President isn't even on the platform) at the same time the ISPs are arguing they should maintain their immunity and shouldn't be held accountable for the content of its users.
 
espola said:
Still advocating for your supposed clients?
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Do you see how Frau Karen Grace completely ignores the substantive issue of whether Rudy should be disbarred? Again, she ignores the substantive issue of right and wrong, and instead points straight to “process” to defend the side of wrong without coming out and saying it, because she knows she’s on the wrong side and is too chicken. Instead, she takes a swipe at democratic institutions that are being used for the very purpose for which they exist.

Historically, this has been an effective tactic for ‘publicans. But Dems, the party in control of the executive and both houses of Congress, no longer give a f**k. They know it’s over for the magat party and have nothing to fear.
 
Grace T. said:
O.k. how about "Mr. Magoo", "stupid fool troll" and "crazy confused lefty idiot".
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I reiterate....despite being a 3x minority I have never been treated as badly by the righties as I have been by the lefties (including those that deny they are lefties, or deny they are extreme).
 
EOTL said:
DOJ, the NY AG, the IRS, Congress and everyone else go get these bottom feeders where they are.
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You put a lot of faith and confidence in government accomplishing stuff. Our efficient and fearless government demonstrated their capabilities last week with their awe inspiring defense of the capitol building. But your words sound cool.

I will say that the NY AG office and the Southern District of New York can be rather efficient organizations
 
Grace T. said:
Cuckoo. You are punishing a 3rd party ISP for the content of its users (not all of whom are Trumpkins and the President isn't even on the platform) at the same time the ISPs are arguing they should maintain their immunity and shouldn't be held accountable for the content of its users.
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Who is the “you” that you’re referring to? Are you saying @espola took down Parler? Or maybe he’s in a deep state conspiracy that includes Jeff Bezos and Nancy Pelosi?

The plain and simple reality is that Frau Karen Grace detests the 1st Amendment and the free market. A private company exercised its absolute legal, Constitutional and contractual right to stop working with a company that supports and helps facilitate domestic terrorism. For some reason that makes her very, very mad. Why is it that Karen Grace wants to coerce private citizens and companies to support terrorists and their enablers?
 
happy9 said:
You put a lot of faith and confidence in government accomplishing stuff. Our efficient and fearless government demonstrated their capabilities last week with their awe inspiring defense of the capitol building. But your words sound cool.

I will say that the NY AG office and the Southern District of New York can be rather efficient organizations
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I guess we’ll see what happens when the executive branch is back in competent hands.
 
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