Surf Cup Is Happening! Schedule is up!

[Own Goal]

Then EVERYONE beside fire, police and ER folks should be home. I was at store just now and it's packed. The beach is crowded with tourist and kids are at the park. I saw a 5 on 5 hoops game with adults. That's my cents about all this.

I was only speaking in reference to what I saw in regards to some families who traveled to AZ for Surf Youngers - my only point was that not everyone is only going to their games and directly back to their hotel rooms.

 

[socalkdg]

Nearly every kid out there has been on both sides of a blowout -- the right thing to do when you're on the winning side is to use that as a teachable moment about empathy. "Remember when you got beat 10-0 by that one team, how did that feel... now imagine how your opponents are feeling right now."

This got me thinking what was our biggest win and biggest loss as a team. Worst loss I believe was 6-0 back in 2017. Biggest win was 9-0 in 2019. Funny thing is the games weren't actually blowouts. There were good plays made and everyone was still competing until the end. I also think as a keeper parent we look at it differently when you are getting beat. You see some great saves even in the loss, or a 2 on 1 that maybe should have been played differently. Nobody seems to care about 48-7 in football or 84-10 in basketball.

 

[happy9]

Wrong again facial. Every coach that has responded to my kids emails this year has asked for video. Every college recruiting form that my daughter fills out has a space for game footage, you tube video, etc...

It's a tough go for the 21s. The only way to recruit at this stage in the process is via video. CA kids and coaches are constrained.

It will be interesting to see how many coaches are present on the sidelines this upcoming weekend.

 

[crush]

I was only speaking in reference to what I saw in regards to some families who traveled to AZ for Surf Youngers - my only point was that not everyone is only going to their games and directly back to their hotel rooms.

I saw some folks breaking protocol when i was there, I wont lie. It was 90% excellent though, just like here. I see folks in our state as well breaking some of the guidelines and I just stay 6 feet away. I swear if you dont let anyone spit on you, sneeze on you, cough on you or anywhere near you at least 6 feet, you will not get the Rona. That is fact.

 

[notintheface]

Texted some associates re: game film, and a college outreach coordinator. "CFB bowl games are getting cancelled, not going to be any budget for soccer." "Even ruthless coaches will ask for game film but will not need 2020 tournament highlights, kids should just talk to them." "Whether these kids go to Surf or not will have no weight on a decision. I know of one team going just for fun." These obv aren't 100% direct quotes but summaries of texts back and forth.

 

[Lavey29]

It's a tough go for the 21s. The only way to recruit at this stage in the process is via video. CA kids and coaches are constrained.

It will be interesting to see how many coaches are present on the sidelines this upcoming weekend.

I agree, my kid is a 2022 so still has a small window of opportunity but her primary focus is on academics anyhow. Soccer is just an added element of fun and challenge while focusing on the end goal of a degree that will benefit her in the career field she chooses. I'm sure there will be a decent amount of coaches there, maybe not the most notable schools. But you dont pick a college for their soccer program, you pick it because it offers the right fields that you want to major in. 90% of scholarships are academic only 10% sports. For those with young players, the most unused sports scholarship each year is womens golf. Approximately 1500 women's golf scholarships go unused each year, I have been told. Good back up plan.

 

[watfly]

We 100% believe in covid, have stayed home and adjusted our lives. We cancelled trips, not eaten out etc etc etc.
and we are going to surf olders. Our kid has worked years and years to be recruited. Needs film to send to coaches. Dream to play in college. It’s not the end all be all to go but we feel we can do it as safe as possible. Soccer in itself isn’t dangerous for the spread. I’ll skip the hotel gym, get food to go and stay in our room or take a drive to kill time. My friend whose kid is at surf says the same. No pressure to go except from internally. And risk mitigation: can we do this as safely as possible and is the risk worth the return? He said surf has no word of cancelled hotels or fields. But he knows he doesn’t know the nitty gritty.

surf needs the money. No shame on that. Arizona needs the money. No shame. If the powers that be in Arizona don’t lead and allow it to happen I don’t fault surf or the cities for hosting or the teams for going. If Arizona calls it all off tomorrow i won’t fault them at all and we will stay home. For the families not going I don’t fault them at all. I 100% wouldn’t go with a kid younger than 10th grade. Risk not worth it. But that’s me

the real kicker is that anyone who got together with family on thursday or Friday for Christmas would just now be showing symptoms. Is the parent who woke up with a headache today or a cough tomorrow going to call the coach and tell them “we aren’t coming?” Or does that family still go?

You're way too logical, how'd you end up on this forum?

 

[SoccerFan4Life]

Texted some associates re: game film, and a college outreach coordinator. "CFB bowl games are getting cancelled, not going to be any budget for soccer." "Even ruthless coaches will ask for game film but will not need 2020 tournament highlights, kids should just talk to them." "Whether these kids go to Surf or not will have no weight on a decision. I know of one team going just for fun." These obv aren't 100% direct quotes but summaries of texts back and forth.

I agree in the lack of funding for other sports. College Football and Basketball fund almost all of the sports in college. If there's no money from these revenue sources, how can they offer scholarships to other sports? THis article below shows that college football brings 80% of the money for Oregon State U. High School Athletes graduating in 2021-2022 will have a tough time getting atheltic scholarships.

The crisis in college sports

With revenues plummeting in the pandemic, colleges are eliminating Olympic sports like diving and volleyball. Here's everything you need to know:What is happening at colleges? They are experiencing a massive budget crisis as they cope with dwindling enrollment, fees, and donations, as well as...

news.yahoo.com

 

[crush]

I agree, my kid is a 2022 so still has a small window of opportunity but her primary focus is on academics anyhow. Soccer is just an added element of fun and challenge while focusing on the end goal of a degree that will benefit her in the career field she chooses. I'm sure there will be a decent amount of coaches there, maybe not the most notable schools. But you dont pick a college for their soccer program, you pick it because it offers the right fields that you want to major in. 90% of scholarships are academic only 10% sports. For those with young players, the most unused sports scholarship each year is womens golf. Approximately 1500 women's golf scholarships go unused each year, I have been told. Good back up plan.

I have nothing against what the truth is about college and soccer and scholarship. My dd friend, who has a 4.7, already has a almost full ride at most schools she's interested in. Gifted is understatement and a good soccer player. Might not have top 25 all over her, but she has passion and heart and can run D1 speed wise but not the best IQ in the games and would sit on the bench at big U. She needs to pick the school that she can play at and get amazing degree so she can be an Engineer someday. Their hoping a door opener because of soccer and coach is open to sharing 10% with her. I think her parents have a few bucks so they can kick down the other 10% if need be. I loved playing hoops in college. It made it fun. it was harder on us as student athletes to get excellent grades and ball at a high level to bring notoriety to school in newspaper. Good luck to your dd. These are super hard time for parents who told goats to wait until new rules and that June 15th meet up on the phone and set up visits. Tough times indeed and I was wrong. She should have emailed in 8th grade when she was hot stuff

 

[mccorn]

I agree, my kid is a 2022 so still has a small window of opportunity but her primary focus is on academics anyhow. Soccer is just an added element of fun and challenge while focusing on the end goal of a degree that will benefit her in the career field she chooses. I'm sure there will be a decent amount of coaches there, maybe not the most notable schools. But you dont pick a college for their soccer program, you pick it because it offers the right fields that you want to major in. 90% of scholarships are academic only 10% sports. For those with young players, the most unused sports scholarship each year is womens golf. Approximately 1500 women's golf scholarships go unused each year, I have been told. Good back up plan.

A few years back, my DD was around 8 years old, out on the pitch. A high school golf coach approached me and ask me if that was my daughter out there...he said he can see that she has great body control and awareness, a natural athlete...and would make a good student of golf. Advised me that it's much easier to get a scholarship in golf vs soccer. If she can break 80, can pretty much write her own ticket. True advise on that day and still true today. My DD hasn't had interest in golf though. She's a freshman, so there's time to work on that.

 

[Scott m Shurson]

That's great, I hope you have fun. Please understand that you have been sold an experience by an organization that is only being driven by the money, knowing that your olders "needed new game footage" is really going to be crap and college coaches are going to think twice about a player from a family who is doing this in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100+ years. That is the absolute 100% truth no matter how much it stings. Maybe that's more negative bullshit, I don't know, but doing something extremely sketchy for kids that "shouldn't have taken from them" is pretty positive bullshit too.

We all understand Surf Cup is a 'for profit' event. I'm sure you bought it in previous years, too, yes? Or are you another one with no kid in soccer?

 

[Scott m Shurson]

There is absolutely no way a coach is going to ask you for game footage from 2020. Zero chance. Zero. Practice? Great. Maybe even an intra-club scrimmage. Great. Zero game footage from during the pandemic and a coach who demands that is going to be in front of their AD having to beg for their job sooner rather than later.

Based on what... you querying every college coach in the country?

 

[full90]

Texted some associates re: game film, and a college outreach coordinator. "CFB bowl games are getting cancelled, not going to be any budget for soccer." "Even ruthless coaches will ask for game film but will not need 2020 tournament highlights, kids should just talk to them." "Whether these kids go to Surf or not will have no weight on a decision. I know of one team going just for fun." These obv aren't 100% direct quotes but summaries of texts back and forth.

Ok I’ll copy this and have my kid send it to the coaches we’ve been communicating with who are asking for up to date film.

 

[crush]

We all understand Surf Cup is a 'for profit' event. I'm sure you bought it in previous years, too, yes? Or are you another one with no kid in soccer?

Scott, he's a coach and has zero kids playing the game. Many Docs are here Scott as are some club coaches. Many of them cant stand parents with questions. Turf war in socal is stronger then other areas. My dd aged out but this is insane. Face texted with his associates about the kids playing at Surf in AZ and has now warned all of you that he might let his associates know about who is playing. He already has them labeled as B or A players or Tier 1 or Tier 2 for 10 year olds.

Face said: "Texted some associates........."

 

[TOSDCI]

That's great, I hope you have fun. Please understand that you have been sold an experience by an organization that is only being driven by the money, knowing that your olders "needed new game footage" is really going to be crap and college coaches are going to think twice about a player from a family who is doing this in the middle of the worst pandemic in 100+ years. That is the absolute 100% truth no matter how much it stings. Maybe that's more negative bullshit, I don't know, but doing something extremely sketchy for kids that "shouldn't have taken from them" is pretty positive bullshit too.

So if you are right and college coaches will "think twice" about a player that is at Surf Cup in the middle of a pandemic, does that mean they think twice about all the kids that played at ECNL showcases in Phoenix and South Carolina from SoCal? Or do they think twice about all the kids in 45 other states that played HS soccer in the fall? Or who are now playing HS basketball in many areas of the country? The answer is a resounding NO!

 

[Lavey29]

A few years back, my DD was around 8 years old, out on the pitch. A high school golf coach approached me and ask me if that was my daughter out there...he said he can see that she has great body control and awareness, a natural athlete...and would make a good student of golf. Advised me that it's much easier to get a scholarship in golf vs soccer. If she can break 80, can pretty much write her own ticket. True advise on that day and still true today. My DD hasn't had interest in golf though. She's a freshman, so there's time to work on that.

Yep, that was the way it was related to me also. There is only one female golfer at my kids high school.

 

[Lavey29]

So if you are right and college coaches will "think twice" about a player that is at Surf Cup in the middle of a pandemic, does that mean they think twice about all the kids that played at ECNL showcases in Phoenix and South Carolina from SoCal? Or do they think twice about all the kids in 45 other states that played HS soccer in the fall? Or who are now playing HS basketball in many areas of the country? The answer is a resounding NO!

Hey, stop with the common sense logic now, that's it ok? You're going to make some sheep's head explode and they will label you a sheep murderer and you dont want that so chill out.

 

[Lavey29]

I have nothing against what the truth is about college and soccer and scholarship. My dd friend, who has a 4.7, already has a almost full ride at most schools she's interested in. Gifted is understatement and a good soccer player. Might not have top 25 all over her, but she has passion and heart and can run D1 speed wise but not the best IQ in the games and would sit on the bench at big U. She needs to pick the school that she can play at and get amazing degree so she can be an Engineer someday. Their hoping a door opener because of soccer and coach is open to sharing 10% with her. I think her parents have a few bucks so they can kick down the other 10% if need be. I loved playing hoops in college. It made it fun. it was harder on us as student athletes to get excellent grades and ball at a high level to bring notoriety to school in newspaper. Good luck to your dd. These are super hard time for parents who told goats to wait until new rules and that June 15th meet up on the phone and set up visits. Tough times indeed and I was wrong. She should have emailed in 8th grade when she was hot stuff

Great response, thanks for posting.

 

[ITFC Blues]

Remember that social media is a biased sample. Families playing Roblox in the hotel room probably post less social media than the families eating out in the hotel restaurant.

Wow, they went with "strongly recommend" on the precautions. Not mandatory, but they really really really mean it. They are almost admitting that there are COVID cases resulting from youth sports events.

Off-Field Guidelines:

As most of the COVID cases during youth sports events are spreading off the field, we strongly recommend the following precautions:
• No carpooling of multiple households is allowed
• No mixing of different households of players allowed in hotel rooms
• No team meetings at hotels or restaurants
• No parent social gatherings at hotels or restaurants
• No inside dining or entertainment facilities

 

[Red card]

Wow, they went with "strongly recommend" on the precautions. Not mandatory, but they really really really mean it. They are almost admitting that there are COVID cases resulting from youth sports events.

Off-Field Guidelines:

As most of the COVID cases during youth sports events are spreading off the field, we strongly recommend the following precautions:
• No carpooling of multiple households is allowed
• No mixing of different households of players allowed in hotel rooms
• No team meetings at hotels or restaurants
• No parent social gatherings at hotels or restaurants
• No inside dining or entertainment facilities

sounds like bliss to me

 

[Lavey29]

Wow, they went with "strongly recommend" on the precautions. Not mandatory, but they really really really mean it. They are almost admitting that there are COVID cases resulting from youth sports events.

Off-Field Guidelines:

As most of the COVID cases during youth sports events are spreading off the field, we strongly recommend the following precautions:
• No carpooling of multiple households is allowed
• No mixing of different households of players allowed in hotel rooms
• No team meetings at hotels or restaurants
• No parent social gatherings at hotels or restaurants
• No inside dining or entertainment facilities

You're clown status just went from silver to gold. What a ridiculous bunch of bafoonery.