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Meanwhile, what about hospitalizations? These, too, are supposed to be our fault, as insufferable "health care professionals" lecture us with made-up stories about people whose dying words were supposed to have been, "I thought it was a hoax."

Absolute guarantee nobody ever went to his grave saying those words. If you're going to invent a b.s. story, at least make it plausible.

Yinon Weiss (@yinonw) has dug up the relevant information on current hospitalization trends.

Let's start with what the big picture looks like:

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I'll bet most people don't think the chart looks like that.

Now given that the U.S. has 6000+ hospitals, some number of them will experience high occupancy from time to time, as has happened numerous times in the past. The chart above shows the aggregate numbers, which do not appear to be abnormal.

With COVID hospitalizations increasing, though, how can this be?

Weiss explains:

"1. Wide COVID spread means people coming in for non-COVID issues but still count as COVID patients."
"2. COVID patients replacing flu patients."

And hence this:

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Finally, what's happening in Los Angeles?

This:
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Important to know what last year looked like, isn't it?

This is why decontexualized numbers don't help us. We need to know what's typical. Saying an ICU is 85% occupied sounds scary to people who don't know anything. But they generally have to be at least that occupied for a hospital to stay afloat.

Meanwhile, remember: you're not fated to be surrounded by COVID zombies. Join me in my private group and you'll be supported in your sanity by smart, well-informed people who don't think the virus is your fault. And you'll keep up with what's really happening, as opposed to panic propaganda.-- Tom Woods
 
Bruddah IZ said:
I'll bet most people don't think the chart looks like that.

Now given that the U.S. has 6000+ hospitals, some number of them will experience high occupancy from time to time, as has happened numerous times in the past. The chart above shows the aggregate numbers, which do not appear to be abnormal.

With COVID hospitalizations increasing, though, how can this be?

Weiss explains:

"1. Wide COVID spread means people coming in for non-COVID issues but still count as COVID patients."
"2. COVID patients replacing flu patients."

And hence this:

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Anna has Covid 19 and another flu. Another soul got hit riding his bike. Broke a leg and arm. Two night stay and guess what else he had but didnt know it until they tested him for it? Any guesses. Prize for the one who guesses right?
 
crush said:
How old if you mind if I ask? Don’t know > 70 prob You make it sound like tennis and swimming and all fun in the sun and no worries. Then senior takes that one risk to go see a loved one on Thanksgiving Day and then on that Day only seeing the loved they got the Rona from sneaking the fuc*k out? To be clear, this resident that died is not the one that left. Got infected soon after the Covid resident that left got back Are you freaking serious? Yes That is a crock bro and a load of sh*t. Maybe the senior got it at the actual place she lives from someone else? Perhaps, but was part of the outbreak soon after that infected resident came back The moral of the story for me? For me, think of others in your personal risk Dont ever end up at a nursing home, period!!! True but Some older folks do need higher levels of care that working families cannot provide BTW, that business is going to die!!!! . Literally is.
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I don’t post that often, but this hit me. My wife is the only person some folks see in months and was essentially their family. Just happened so quickly. I have no agenda and this isn’t a “crock”... just illustrating a real life story I heard first hand outside the media. Be safe, healthy and empathetic to others.
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crush said:
No dumb dumb. It happen this way. One of the cooks brought the Rona to the facility. Cooks son, woks at Jimmy's pot shop, gave it to dad and now all are sick because of Jimmy's pot shop. The son got the Rona from one of the delivery drivers picked it up in Newport Coast. That's how it happen.
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i think a lawyers office
 
Remember when the CDC credited masks for bringing down "cases" in Arizona?

When they say ridiculous things like this, they give the green light to people who want to blame their neighbors for rises in cases. "Why, since we know masks work, the rise in cases must be because of you stupid anti-science people who refuse to wear them!"

Even though mask compliance is as high as ever, these "pro-science" people just know it can't be, because they just know masks at the very least go a long way toward solving the problem.

Well, anyway, how about we check out Arizona's curve now?

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Well, how about that.

Could it be that masks didn't bring the curve down after all? That these curves seem to do more or less the same thing no matter what?
 
Right now one blue state after another that supposedly "followed the science," is seeing a rise in "cases." And all their people can do is blame their neighbors. Because, don't you know, the "science" works! So if the "science" isn't working, that means someone somewhere must not be sciencing.

Let's check in with "pro-science" Rhode Island. Are masks keeping "cases" down there?

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Well, how about that.

I guess by an odd coincidence, people in Arizona and Rhode Island must have chosen the same moment to stop sciencing!

Or, virus gonna virus.
 
Gosocal said:
Wife is a nurse covering several senior living facilities in OC. One senior took that exact risk you outline and left the facility for thanksgiving to see family and subsequently came back and tested Covid positive. Outbreak occurs thereafter. Perfectly healthy (joking, talking, mobile) resident gets infected and dies 5 days later. 2 other residents die days apart. Personal risk turns tragic for others. Yup certainly no guarantees.
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Well that’s absolute stupidity on the facilities part to allow the patient to leave and come back. Whoever allowed that should be fired.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Finally, what's happening in Los Angeles?

This:
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Important to know what last year looked like, isn't it?

This is why decontexualized numbers don't help us. We need to know what's typical. Saying an ICU is 85% occupied sounds scary to people who don't know anything.
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Look at the trend and you will see that it’s about to go well above last years numbers. Hospitalizations are almost double compared to two weeks ago. January numbers will be much higher than December. If a non covid emergency happens (car accidents, serious injuries, etc), where are they going to put those patients if they run out of icu beds. As an example OC hit 4,500 covid cases a few days ago, that’s 20x the amount in October. We will some of those going to hospitals in a few weeks
 
MyDaughtersAKeeper said:
Please explain to me how insurance works. I will go and get my popcorn.
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Just asking if anyone has ever filed a claim against a tournament host? Or knows of someone who did. People on here keep bringing up the insurance part of this, so I am curious how often it comes into play.
 
Bruddah IZ said:
Right now one blue state after another that supposedly "followed the science," is seeing a rise in "cases." And all their people can do is blame their neighbors. Because, don't you know, the "science" works! So if the "science" isn't working, that means someone somewhere must not be sciencing.

Let's check in with "pro-science" Rhode Island. Are masks keeping "cases" down there?

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Well, how about that.

I guess by an odd coincidence, people in Arizona and Rhode Island must have chosen the same moment to stop sciencing!

Or, virus gonna virus.
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"Virus gonna virus"?

There are people who have studied disease outbreaks for decades. They actually know what they are talking about.

You are someone who packs five grammatical errors into a four word sentence. You do not know what you're talking about.

Just wear your damn mask, give people space, stop socializing indoors, and stop spreading fatal misinformation. It's not that hard.
 
dad4 said:
"Virus gonna virus"?

There are people who have studied disease outbreaks for decades. They actually know what they are talking about.

You are someone who packs five grammatical errors into a four word sentence. You do not know what you're talking about.

Just wear your damn mask, give people space, stop socializing indoors, and stop spreading fatal misinformation. It's not that hard.
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@dad4, have a Snickers. :)
 
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