Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now

Kicker4Life said:
Maybe more like this...

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Grand County Coroner Raises Concern On Deaths Among COVID Cases

The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths.
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OMG. It’s a conspiracy to prevent children from playing kiddie soccer. What better way to lure them into a tunnel under a DC parlor. I hear there is some guy who was on a swift boat in Viet Nam who knows all about it.

Check out how many people are dying of heartburn and motorcycle accidents. A lot. Like a lot a lot.

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EOTL said:
OMG. It’s a conspiracy to prevent children from playing kiddie soccer. What better way to lure them into a tunnel under a DC parlor. I hear there is some guy who was on a swift boat in Viet Nam who knows all about it.

Check out how many people are dying of heartburn and motorcycle accidents. A lot. Like a lot a lot.

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I'm guessing most of the heartburn deaths occurred in July and August.

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notintheface said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't like that either. Clubs have unrealistic ambitions that wind up getting taken advantage of; "you'll never retain the best players if you aren't in these leagues", "you need the support of a giant centrally controlled organization in order to compete in these modern times" etc etc etc. I've seen firsthand the wild promises that get thrown around and the subsequent reality-- the only thing Surf et al have going for them is the scale. They aren't any better or worse or whatever, they're just big. That size makes them believe that they're these gatekeepers to greatness when in reality that isn't the case, and that's the frustrating part. It's the same for Slammers, right, you see that Yokohama sponsorship and club admins just lose their mind, "oh we have to be a part of that" and it's just ridiculous.
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It is the affiliates like OC Surf, Murietta Surf, or LA Surf that can't back up the big talk and money demands from families...... SD Surf is the only real Surf.....their ECNL teams are very strong, the G2006 might be the #1 in the country...... similar deal with Slammers, their LAFC ECNL teams are great then it drops off like it does at Surf.........

@crush Eagles arguably have the best fields..... actually probably Legends ........so Surf are at 3, and I say that as a proud San Diego native.......
 
futboldad1 said:
It is the affiliates like OC Surf, Murietta Surf, or LA Surf that can't back up the big talk and money demands from families...... SD Surf is the only real Surf.....their ECNL teams are very strong, the G2006 might be the #1 in the country...... similar deal with Slammers, their LAFC ECNL teams are great then it drops off like it does at Surf.........

@crush Eagles arguably have the best fields..... actually probably Legends ........so Surf are at 3, and I say that as a proud San Diego native.......
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Oceanside when their up to the task have the best fields imo. Eagles fields off the freeway? GP is hit and a miss. It's been over two years since my dd balled at Silver Lakes so maybe your right. I see some nice fields off the freeway and it looks like it's the best. Place to eat dont hurt either. I'm open to being wrong. You know me to eat humble pie when i need too. Peace brah!!!
 
crush said:
Oceanside when their up to the task have the best fields imo. Eagles fields off the freeway? GP is hit and a miss. It's been over two years since my dd balled so maybe your right. I see some nice fields off the freeway and it looks like it's the best. Place to eat dont hurt either. I'm open to being wrong. You know me to eat humble pie when i need too. Peace brah!!!
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Oceanside is great..... but I was just comparing the three big complexes that are controlled by one club each.... wind at silverlakes can be a pita
 
Scott m Shurson said:
I don't disagree with that but most ICUs are nearly full this time every year. Have you talked to, or know of, a physician or nurse that would dispute that? I realize acknowledging that doesn't solve the capacity problem but I'm not aware of playing outdoor soccer resulting in bursting hospitals at the seams. My point to EOTL was that the increased cases are attributed to other behavior. Even this basketball tournament that happened near Sacramento, resulting in an "outbreak of 94 positive cases", with all the articles I've read because it happened in my backyard, not 1 has mentioned a death or hospital stay for a single participant. Doesn't mean it didn't happen but I haven't read of one. Not one. And this place was hosting indoor basketball from Day 1. And are you surprised to see "more" cases when there's "more" testing than ever? C'mon.
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OMG, the stupidity on this forum is beyond imagination.
 
futboldad1 said:
It is the affiliates like OC Surf, Murietta Surf, or LA Surf that can't back up the big talk and money demands from families...... SD Surf is the only real Surf.....their ECNL teams are very strong, the G2006 might be the #1 in the country...... similar deal with Slammers, their LAFC ECNL teams are great then it drops off like it does at Surf.........
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No true scotsman, etc etc etc... "money demands", what a shitty fucking line that is. This is why people generally dislike Surf.
 
ITFC Blues said:
More fun - Let's see if it spreads to more cities or the Greater Bay Area.

San Francisco's Health Director Dr. Grant Colfax announced Thursday a new travel order requiring a mandatory quarantine of 10 days for anyone traveling, moving or returning to the city from anywhere outside the Bay Area.

The order goes into effect on Friday and applies to both visitors and residents.

The order also requires anyone who comes to San Francisco to quarantine for 10 days if they spent any time outside the following nine Bay Area counties: San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda, Contra Costa, Solano, Sonoma, Napa, Marin and Santa Cruz.
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How is that tracked/enforced? Establishing an outer and inner cordon with traffic control points around the city? Sounds like cool training for the CA NG.
 
happy9 said:
How is that tracked/enforced? Establishing an outer and inner cordon with traffic control points around the city? Sounds like cool training for the CA NG.
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Some laws work only to the extent that people respect them. This is one of those.

I have no real desire to spread covid. When the county asked me to avoid travel, I did.

Do they also monitor your fasttrak pass and mail you a fine when your car crosses the bridge? Probably not, but I suppose they could.
 
watfly said:
I don't disagree that Surf would be well advised to cancel the tournament from an optics standpoint, I've been on record saying that for weeks. Unfortunately they've painted themselves into a corner with the remaining teams. They had a perfect opportunity a week and a half ago to cancel but instead they doubled down. However, comparing them to "big tobacco" or a "criminal enterprise", is not remotely factually comparable, and is a level of animosity that I can't comprehend based on the simple decision to legally and safely (based on their protocols and the actually history of recent tourneys) host a tournament. I guess calling them Nazi's is too ubiquitous. It seems there is something else underlying this venom. I know people that resent Surf's success...which I find odd that anyone resents somebody else's success.

Teams and clubs have made their own decisions to go. They should go, have a good time, be careful and take responsibility for their actions. Surf is not forcing anyone to go. Does Surf have influence? Sure, they're the 880lb gorilla that could sell ice to Eskimos, but Surf has given teams every opportunity to back out and receive a 97% refund. It seems you may be just looking for a scapegoat. I guess I'm just tired of this nanny culture where people hyperbolically criticize others for their educated choices when those choices have zero impact on them. I realize this behavior is likely born out of their own fears, but that still doesn't justify it. As my mom used to say "Mind your own beeswax".
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I see we need a bit more explanation...

Analogy = a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects. (It does not mean literally the same.)

My analogy = Big Tobacco and Surf. Both put out products that pose health risks to consumers. The vast majority of the medical community is saying, "don't do it." One is even doing it against current government mandates. Neither is illegal activity (as I've previously written so don't attribute "criminal enterprise" to me), but they are morally and ethically questionable activities. Having a right to do something is not always right (as i've also written).

It's an analogy, written to make people think. It's not venomous. Unfortunately, it caused your thinking to go to the Holocaust. Can't believe you referenced Nazi's in your post, even if it was a lame attempt at a dig. At best your reply is bad form and hypocritically insensitive, at worst...only you would know.
 
dad4 said:
Some laws work only to the extent that people respect them. This is one of those.

I have no real desire to spread covid. When the county asked me to avoid travel, I did.

Do they also monitor your fasttrak pass and mail you a fine when your car crosses the bridge? Probably not, but I suppose they could.
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I'm being facetious, these are mainly words being put to paper. I have friends in NY/NJ - they tried something similar coming into NYC. Checking temps and asking questions on bridges and subway stations coming into the city. Low compliance and low enforcement.
 
oh canada said:
I see we need a bit more explanation...

Analogy = a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects. (It does not mean literally the same.)

My analogy = Big Tobacco and Surf. Both put out products that pose health risks to consumers. The vast majority of the medical community is saying, "don't do it." One is even doing it against current government mandates. Neither is illegal activity (as I've previously written so don't attribute "criminal enterprise" to me), but they are morally and ethically questionable activities. Having a right to do something is not always right (as i've also written).

It's an analogy, written to make people think. It's not venomous. Unfortunately, it caused your thinking to go to the Holocaust. Can't believe you referenced Nazi's in your post, even if it was a lame attempt at a dig. At best your reply is bad form and hypocritically insensitive, at worst...only you would know.
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I'll let the fact that you started a thread to bash another club, because you disagree with their decision that has zero impact on you, stand for itself...and I will let my responses stand for themselves. At least we can agree that it would have been wise for Surf to cancel the tournament.
 
oh canada said:
I see we need a bit more explanation...

Analogy = a thing which is comparable to something else in significant respects. (It does not mean literally the same.)

My analogy = Big Tobacco and Surf. Both put out products that pose health risks to consumers. The vast majority of the medical community is saying, "don't do it." One is even doing it against current government mandates. Neither is illegal activity (as I've previously written so don't attribute "criminal enterprise" to me), but they are morally and ethically questionable activities. Having a right to do something is not always right (as i've also written).

It's an analogy, written to make people think. It's not venomous. Unfortunately, it caused your thinking to go to the Holocaust. Can't believe you referenced Nazi's in your post, even if it was a lame attempt at a dig. At best your reply is bad form and hypocritically insensitive, at worst...only you would know.
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Oh Canada = Absolute Bafoonery. There's another analogy for you to ponder.
 
EOTL said:
OMG. It’s a conspiracy to prevent children from playing kiddie soccer. What better way to lure them into a tunnel under a DC parlor. I hear there is some guy who was on a swift boat in Viet Nam who knows all about it.

Check out how many people are dying of heartburn and motorcycle accidents. A lot. Like a lot a lot.

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Who said we stopped playing soccer. I have a front row seat for you for this weekends games. Pick a day.
 
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