Surf Cup - Get Your Refund Now

Jose has returned said:
any scientific updates on soccer spreading the virus? asking for a friend
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The news would have a huge headline if soccer was spreading covid. Look what happened to indoor basketball.

The Mercury News says the outbreak includes 39 "middle- and high school players," three coaches and 35 additional contacts.

www.thedenverchannel.com

94 cases of COVID-19 traced back to illegal youth basketball tournament in California

Health officials in Santa Clara County, California, say that they have traced 94 cases of COVID-19 to a youth basketball tournament that took place illegally at a nearby indoor sports complex last month.
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watfly said:
What's up with all the hate towards Surf?
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Surf the club: I don't like how they are attempting to be the McDonalds of soccer by absorbing smaller local clubs and bending them to one unified model.

Surf Cup the org: I don't like the hypercapitalism that they feel the need to put everyone through. Just put on a good tournament ffs, don't try to be anything more. Sometimes growth growth growth is not the answer to everything. Be good at what you're good at.
 
Some time ago, Surf was Best of the Best. Kids and parents were looking forward to going to Surf. Also your team have to be very good to be accepted. But ever since they've created flight 2 and start accepting mediocre out of state teams just because they had to stay in a hotel, Surf became Best of the Rest. There is no doubt Surf still very well run tournament compare to others. But this year they've made a big mistake postponing it 3 times and then moving to AZ in the worst possible time. I really hope tournament will happen and wish best of luck to all teams that brave enough to attend.
 
notintheface said:
Surf the club: I don't like how they are attempting to be the McDonalds of soccer by absorbing smaller local clubs and bending them to one unified model.

Surf Cup the org: I don't like the hypercapitalism that they feel the need to put everyone through. Just put on a good tournament ffs, don't try to be anything more. Sometimes growth growth growth is not the answer to everything. Be good at what you're good at.
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I understand your points, I just personally wouldn't hate them for it. A question, not a criticism, do you really think they're bending these clubs to be one unified model? To me its seems more of marketing and jersey selling scheme.
 
socalkdg said:
The news would have a huge headline if soccer was spreading covid. Look what happened to indoor basketball.

The Mercury News says the outbreak includes 39 "middle- and high school players," three coaches and 35 additional contacts.

www.thedenverchannel.com

94 cases of COVID-19 traced back to illegal youth basketball tournament in California

Health officials in Santa Clara County, California, say that they have traced 94 cases of COVID-19 to a youth basketball tournament that took place illegally at a nearby indoor sports complex last month.
www.thedenverchannel.com www.thedenverchannel.com
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And yet not a single hospitalization connected to these 94 cases. We know damned well that would have been spotlighted.
 
Kicker4Life said:
No hate for the small clubs that Sell out to franchises like Surf or Slammers? You can’t buy what isn’t for sale!
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Oh don't get me wrong, I don't like that either. Clubs have unrealistic ambitions that wind up getting taken advantage of; "you'll never retain the best players if you aren't in these leagues", "you need the support of a giant centrally controlled organization in order to compete in these modern times" etc etc etc. I've seen firsthand the wild promises that get thrown around and the subsequent reality-- the only thing Surf et al have going for them is the scale. They aren't any better or worse or whatever, they're just big. That size makes them believe that they're these gatekeepers to greatness when in reality that isn't the case, and that's the frustrating part. It's the same for Slammers, right, you see that Yokohama sponsorship and club admins just lose their mind, "oh we have to be a part of that" and it's just ridiculous.
 
Scott m Shurson said:
People are counted as a "Covid" death despite a comorbidity issue that is not being acknowledged. People dying from Covid, rather than dying WITH Covid, are not the same.
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Get a load of this. Your comorbidity comment is accurate but it gets so much more ridiculous. The guy who dies in a motorcycle accident tests positive for "it" and so the cause of death is listed as "it" because the thinking is "well if he didn't have "it" he wouldn't have crashed and died. Smh.

Or..., the number of positive cases being reported also includes "suspected". And that suspected number being folded in is about a 10% bump. Go figure.
 
More fun - Let's see if it spreads to more cities or the Greater Bay Area.

San Francisco's Health Director Dr. Grant Colfax announced Thursday a new travel order requiring a mandatory quarantine of 10 days for anyone traveling, moving or returning to the city from anywhere outside the Bay Area.

The order goes into effect on Friday and applies to both visitors and residents.

The order also requires anyone who comes to San Francisco to quarantine for 10 days if they spent any time outside the following nine Bay Area counties: San Mateo, Santa Clara, Alameda, Contra Costa, Solano, Sonoma, Napa, Marin and Santa Cruz.
 
MrCruett said:
Get a load of this. Your comorbidity comment is accurate but it gets so much more ridiculous. The guy who dies in a motorcycle accident tests positive for "it" and so the cause of death is listed as "it" because the thinking is "well if he didn't have "it" he wouldn't have crashed and died. Smh.

Or..., the number of positive cases being reported also includes "suspected". And that suspected number being folded in is about a 10% bump. Go figure.
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Thank you, Mr. Joined-Nine-Days-Ago, for rehashing shit that we were arguing about in March. Please stop.
 
MrCruett said:
Get a load of this. Your comorbidity comment is accurate but it gets so much more ridiculous. The guy who dies in a motorcycle accident tests positive for "it" and so the cause of death is listed as "it" because the thinking is "well if he didn't have "it" he wouldn't have crashed and died. Smh.

Or..., the number of positive cases being reported also includes "suspected". And that suspected number being folded in is about a 10% bump. Go figure.
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Ok, I guess now 310,000 people plus another 3,000 a day are actually dying of heartburn AND motorcycle accidents. Dumb ICU doctors keep treating broken bones by intubating.

Are you talking about this fella who actually was not counted as a covid death? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/florida-motorcyclist-covid-death/
 
EOTL said:
Ok, I guess now 310,000 people plus another 3,000 a day are actually dying of heartburn AND motorcycle accidents. Dumb ICU doctors keep treating broken bones by intubating.

Are you talking about this fella who actually was not counted as a covid death? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/florida-motorcyclist-covid-death/
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Maybe more like this...

denver.cbslocal.com

Grand County Coroner Raises Concern On Deaths Among COVID Cases

The Grand County coroner is calling attention to the way the state health department is classifying some deaths.
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notintheface said:
Oh don't get me wrong, I don't like that either. Clubs have unrealistic ambitions that wind up getting taken advantage of; "you'll never retain the best players if you aren't in these leagues", "you need the support of a giant centrally controlled organization in order to compete in these modern times" etc etc etc. I've seen firsthand the wild promises that get thrown around and the subsequent reality-- the only thing Surf et al have going for them is the scale. They aren't any better or worse or whatever, they're just big. That size makes them believe that they're these gatekeepers to greatness when in reality that isn't the case, and that's the frustrating part. It's the same for Slammers, right, you see that Yokohama sponsorship and club admins just lose their mind, "oh we have to be a part of that" and it's just ridiculous.
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Try 11 National Championships and the Cup. Best fields in socal makes them #1 for better or worse.
 
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