Surf Cup's Fate

MacDre said:
I agree, but be careful. I attended public universities and graduated from professional school with no debt. School is so much more expensive now and young adults are starting their lives burdened with substantial debt. I doubt that I would attend law school at today’s prices.
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It was way cheaper for me too. I hopped around from JC to JC ((go figure)) in the 80s and then finally got to a school in Pomona. Four classes short of my BS in Kinesiology. I thought it was PE but I got fooled and I was taking classes with Pre Med students. I had one Professor who graded on a curve and I happen to be in the class with all the next Drs. I got an F and never took the class again. I owed $10,000 and paid it all off before I got married. My wife owed $20K because she studied in Germany for a year and I ended up having to pay if off for her when we got married. Today, some of these kids owe a small house payment and no job work at. My son just signed a lease for a frat house at SDSU for next Fall. $900 a month for one room, no food. He asked if I would help him with some food money and I said, "I ate Top Ramen dude and so can you." He was sad but then said he will work part time for his entrainment funds and a new car he wants to save for. I told him I would like to save for a car too but now I have to pay for his food. No one helped me, no one except Mr Pell and Mr Stanford. JC is the way to go. My dd is seriously think of taking classes online at Orange Coast College when she turns 17. Forget AP, just take some online JC courses.

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SoccerFan4Life said:
Alright Crush! You have been talking about your goat for years. Time to give details. Where is she going for college? Where is she ranked (if she is a senior) on the top drawer or whatever it’s called.
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Years???? I did back in 2013-2015. Then I was asked kindly not to come on here let alone post. It was 100% a no or else. One dude told me he was thinking of buying the socal soccer forum. They all lurke here and some even post. I know them all too well. Regarding where my dd is going to go to college, I honestly have no idea. She does want to go and play soccer. The net is all over and she is taking a wait and see approach. Her video is old so were in the process of replacing 2018 stuff with 5 new highlights from ECNL Showcase. She has emailed and has received some really nice feed back. One full ride ((as long as she carries 3.7)) and one who is is 100% interested and so is she. I can't name schools out of respect to my goat. Both of these programs are top schools. One is knocking on the door for NCAA invite and the other one goes almost every year. Lot's of potential at both. She has her hope one or two to just show some interest. I think they will when they see her play with all the other top goats her age.
Rankings? I never signed her up bro for that service. I was poor at the time when we were told what to do. I personally thought it was sort of weak but now I understand why its good for some and I hold no bitterness. I see the top 150 and who from socal is on there. She has great friends in the top 30. MOO, I think she is one of the most competitive females i have ever met. Between her and my wife, she's the real deal. My wife said she's never met anyone like her. A force to reckon with and a great teammate who will put her body on the line for the "W." Will play were ever she is told. Her only ask is to treat her with respect and super important to her, play to win and win means make the playoffs every year or at least go all out for the college cup. I have no idea where that ranks but every coach she has played for always fins a place for her on the field.
 
Lavey29 said:
And that is fine. Each family should decide what is in their own best interest not the teams best interest. Let adults make their own adult decisions. If I had a young player, I would probably opt not to go due to cost and right in the middle of holiday time period. With an 03 junior player, it's a different decision as she contacts coaches and needs quality game footage to show them.
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most of the users freaking out have ulittles with pro careers in their future.
 
crush said:
Years???? I did back in 2013-2015. Then I was asked kindly not to come on here let alone post. It was 100% a no or else. One dude told me he was thinking of buying the socal soccer forum. They all lurke here and some even post. I know them all too well. Regarding where my dd is going to go to college, I honestly have no idea. She does want to go and play soccer. The net is all over and she is taking a wait and see approach. Her video is old so were in the process of replacing 2018 stuff with 5 new highlights from ECNL Showcase. She has emailed and has received some really nice feed back. One full ride ((as long as she carries 3.7)) and one who is is 100% interested and so is she. I can't name schools out of respect to my goat. Both of these programs are top schools. One is knocking on the door for NCAA invite and the other one goes almost every year. Lot's of potential at both. She has her hope one or two to just show some interest. I think they will when they see her play with all the other top goats her age.
Rankings? I never signed her up bro for that service. I was poor at the time when we were told what to do. I personally thought it was sort of weak but now I understand why its good for some and I hold no bitterness. I see the top 150 and who from socal is on there. She has great friends in the top 30. MOO, I think she is one of the most competitive females i have ever met. Between her and my wife, she's the real deal. My wife said she's never met anyone like her. A force to reckon with and a great teammate who will put her body on the line for the "W." Will play were ever she is told. Her only ask is to treat her with respect and super important to her, play to win and win means make the playoffs every year or at least go all out for the college cup. I have no idea where that ranks but every coach she has played for always fins a place for her on the field.
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Good for your daughter.
 
46n2 said:
HS soccer is only fun because all club players get to be the goat on their team , lets be honest .
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The fact that it is fun is exactly why people play HS soccer. That's one of the best things about it. If the players aren't having fun playing club soccer then that's a problem. Being fun is not the negative that you make it out to be.
 
Chalklines said:
most of the users freaking out have ulittles with pro careers in their future.
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Really? The future WNT star and I are in hermit mode right now. Missing Surf is a bummer, but she still has enough time to collect a half dozen blue jackets.

( The nice thing about covid is that, with no games, I can delude myself with absolutely no fear of a reality check. )
 
46n2 said:
HS soccer is only fun because all club players get to be the goat on their team , lets be honest .
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HS soccer can be fun because spending time with friends is an enjoyable experience.

Also, many of these girls put in years of hard work doing something that is very isolating as it relates to their HS peers and experience, and with zero recognition from their peers. They see the HS football and basketball players getting recognized by their peers, singers and actors getting recognition for their plays and musicals, even cheerleaders for cheering. But all they get are a handful of parents and occasionally college scouts at their club games, and classmates hearing rumors that maybe she’s a really good soccer player but thinks she is too good for them to play in HS. HS soccer provides an avenue to get the recognition they deserve, and that is a big deal.
 
EOTL said:
HS soccer can be fun because spending time with friends is an enjoyable experience.

Also, many of these girls put in years of hard work doing something that is very isolating as it relates to their HS peers and experience, and with zero recognition from their peers. They see the HS football and basketball players getting recognized by their peers, singers and actors getting recognition for their plays and musicals, even cheerleaders for cheering. But all they get are a handful of parents and occasionally college scouts at their club games, and classmates hearing rumors that maybe she’s a really good soccer player but thinks she is too good for them to play in HS. HS soccer provides an avenue to get the recognition they deserve, and that is a big deal.
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A glimpse of humanity. Well said.
 
EOTL said:
HS soccer can be fun because spending time with friends is an enjoyable experience.

Also, many of these girls put in years of hard work doing something that is very isolating as it relates to their HS peers and experience, and with zero recognition from their peers. They see the HS football and basketball players getting recognized by their peers, singers and actors getting recognition for their plays and musicals, even cheerleaders for cheering. But all they get are a handful of parents and occasionally college scouts at their club games, and classmates hearing rumors that maybe she’s a really good soccer player but thinks she is too good for them to play in HS. HS soccer provides an avenue to get the recognition they deserve, and that is a big deal.
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On the boys' side, this seems less of a factor, at least from the kids I have known who have had a choice. Not sure why, but one common complaint I have heard from top male players is that the kids in school soccer spent most of practice fooling around and not listening to their coach. That leads to running or chaos, neither of which is much fun to serious players who just want to play. When you add in the fact that HS soccer isn't getting many fans anyway compared to football and basketball (at least in LA), the attraction isn't all that great. Maybe it's different in Orange County or San Diego.
 
Dargle said:
On the boys' side, this seems less of a factor, at least from the kids I have known who have had a choice. Not sure why, but one common complaint I have heard from top male players is that the kids in school soccer spent most of practice fooling around and not listening to their coach. That leads to running or chaos, neither of which is much fun to serious players who just want to play. When you add in the fact that HS soccer isn't getting many fans anyway compared to football and basketball (at least in LA), the attraction isn't all that great. Maybe it's different in Orange County or San Diego.
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I don’t doubt what you are saying. Boys and girls soccer are very different sports.
 
crush said:
This is classic 46. HS soccer was for fun but not anymore. CIF Gold baby!!! Take that to da bank girlfriend....lol!! Lot's of fun entertainment going on here at the socal soccer forum. I was so pissed when my dd original team ((before she started hopping around for free)) got snubbed by Surf Cup that SHE decided to go All Blue to make sure never to be snubbed again. Like Kicker said, the scouts look for individuals that can ball, not how many Surf Cups and Surf Thanksgiving Cups champion medals one has. My dd has 5 Gold and three runner ups. Who on these board have more then one Surf Cup Championship?
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I am happy for your daughter’s impressive collection of hardware. At the same time, I’m happy that coaches and scouts aren’t making recruiting decisions based on that ‘cause my player has exactly zero medals! :).
But seriously, watching that chapter of her soccer journey must have been super fun for your entire family!
 
EOTL said:
HS soccer can be fun because spending time with friends is an enjoyable experience.

Also, many of these girls put in years of hard work doing something that is very isolating as it relates to their HS peers and experience, and with zero recognition from their peers. They see the HS football and basketball players getting recognized by their peers, singers and actors getting recognition for their plays and musicals, even cheerleaders for cheering. But all they get are a handful of parents and occasionally college scouts at their club games, and classmates hearing rumors that maybe she’s a really good soccer player but thinks she is too good for them to play in HS. HS soccer provides an avenue to get the recognition they deserve, and that is a big deal.
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I have to agree with all of this. Plus, if you were in the old GDA, your were forbid to play HS and have fun with your friends you will be friends with for life.
 
EOTL said:
I don’t doubt what you are saying. Boys and girls soccer are very different sports.
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Plus, if I was top boy player and getting offers from Europe, I'm not playing hs soccer, no way. However, girls' are not getting paid ((yet)) so no reason to give up fun for peanuts. Pay up and my dd will ball full time. No pay, then just play for fun and see if college deal is worth the hard work it takes to actually play at a top D1 school. It's hard core!!!
 
Giesbock said:
I am happy for your daughter’s impressive collection of hardware. At the same time, I’m happy that coaches and scouts aren’t making recruiting decisions based on that ‘cause my player has exactly zero medals! :).
But seriously, watching that chapter of her soccer journey must have been super fun for your entire family!
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I was told by Tad that college coaches do NOT recruit medals or winning teams. It looks good on the resume only. Also, my dd was very lucky ((blessed)) to play with some really great players who made her look good. I'm serious, the only goal she got going coast to coast was that one back at Far West with no time on the clock. All the other goals were passes by some of the best CM in the country, no joke. The journey was super fun until college night started for her in 7th grade. That was a pressure cooker for so many of the young girls. It hasn't been that fun unfortunately but it how you finish the race that counts. It's not fun right now, that's for sure.
 
You would expect the schedule to be posted this weekend for youngers.

Here's a fun story for you that is in no way relevant to Surf Cup. A few years ago in (I want to say) Camarillo, first game Saturday is the early field-opening game, and second game is the afternoon shift. Show up for early morning warmups and checkin, and discover that two teams out of our four-team bracket pulled out at the last minute -- I think it was wildfire related? Only one bracket for our group. Whoops. Anyways, no games on Saturday. We want to run an intra-team lightweight scrimmage during our game times and the TD in his infinite wisdom says no, no availability. Families wind up going back to various hotels.

We win our Sunday morning game and immediately break for lunch / rest before the rematch in the "final". Come back to the field Sunday afternoon and find that there are zero refs, opposing team has bailed, and the TD isn't going to post it as a forfeit, ie there's no bracket winner and no championship (or third place) game. Early morning Saturday drive + hotel etc for precisely one game. Parents were (rightfully) livid and last I remember the team was able to get a small refund back.

Anyways, enjoy your Sunday-Monday-Tuesday-after-Christmas tournament, youngers, I am sure there will be no scheduling problems whatsoever.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
It’s less than 3 weeks to younger’s surf tourney and surf still can’t say what fields they’ll play on or provide a schedule. I think that’s a pretty good indication it’s not going to happen. Our club already pulled out and I’m bummed that my younger won’t get to go play.
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Since when do tournaments have schedules out three weeks in advance?

In addition, Surf just found out they lost the fields a week ago. Give them a moment to establish a schedule. Geez...
 
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