Surf Cup's Fate

SoccerFan4Life said:
lmao. Nice personality trait there buddy. From your logic (Statement) listed above, kids that dont play for Baker either suck or have low self esteem. My niece was neither and she is doing just fine at UCLA. My point was dont put up with crap from coaches berrating kids because it;s not worth it. The days of Bobby Knight type coaching are over.
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Wow, you have some serious problems with the synapses. No, I never said only those who play for Baker are good or have high self esteem. But you certainly won’t be there long if you don’t.

And clearly the days of Baker type coaches are not over, given that he seems to be doing jist fine thank you very much. And comparing him to Bobby Knight is more than a little unfair. I’ve never seen Baker throw a chair onto a field, choke or hit someone, go off on racist rants, assault a police officer, shove his own feces into the faces of players. You know, actual abuse.
 
EOTL said:
I sincerely apologize. I should definitely treat someone who lacks reading comprehension and incorrectly claims I’m saying things I’m not with the dignity and respect they don’t deserve.

BTW, I’ve never hit anyone with a clipboard to the best of my recollection. Why are you so mean to @crush, anyway?
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Please show me where i misquoted you or claimed you said something you did not say??? My question to you is “if” you would qualify throwing a clipboard at a player as abuse. Never said you threw it, actually Baker did.

I have my reasons that extend beyond this forum.....lines where crossed.
 
EOTL said:
Wow, you have some serious problems with the synapses. No, I never said only those who play for Baker are good or have high self esteem. But you certainly won’t be there long if you don’t.

And clearly the days of Baker type coaches are not over, given that he seems to be doing jist fine thank you very much. And comparing him to Bobby Knight is more than a little unfair. I’ve never seen Baker throw a chair onto a field, choke or hit someone, go off on racist rants, assault a police officer, shove his own feces into the faces of players. You know, actual abuse.
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I actually liked the Baker way. All my coaches demanded excellence and hard work. If you slacked off, you got called out. My dd can use a little of that style. I saw what he produced right before my very eyes and ears for two years....lol! He also produces winners and recruits the players your talking about. My dd was not a good match for him, trust me. I would pay money to see him try to yell my dd though...lol
 
happy9 said:
I don't disagree with any of this. Surf is indeed a business a business and an important part of the CA soccer landscape. Cities in AZ also have a right to protect their business interests and those of their citizens.

Please point out where I've shit on anyone's choice to come and play if Surf occurs. The topic of the discussion is Surf Cup's Fate, not don't come to Surf Cup. You are arguing that in spite of current health and political conditions in AZ, that Surf should somehow be allowed to carry on as if nothing is happening. But something is happening, a lot is happening, and changing on a daily basis.

A decision will be made here at some point. I will live with that decision and move on with my life. Professionally, there are systems in place that will allow my family and I weather any backlash, if they happen. If they don't, then good. On top of that, if our club decides to play, my youngest will play, like we've done almost every weekend since late AUG. Much easier for me since I live a short distance to fields in Scottsdale.

No one is denying your right to choose, but your right to choose doesn't mean I (or others) have to agree with your choice, your views, and your opinion. It's why these forums exist. They are not designed to confirm your bias, they are designed to share information, get into stupid arguments, and engage intellectually with people across the soccer landscape.
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You continue to miss the point. All you do is bring negativity here. Your opinions are clear. You do not think it should happen. We get it. A decision has been made that they are having it. Unless they change their minds it is on at this point.

I am going to do myself a favor and hit the ignore button on your URL so I do not have to read your negativity and attempts to post as facts things that are actually just rumors.
 
Kicker4Life said:
Please show me where i misquoted you or claimed you said something you did not say??? My question to you is “if” you would qualify throwing a clipboard at a player as abuse. Never said you threw it, actually Baker did.

I have my reasons that extend beyond this forum.....lines where crossed.
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All I’ve said is coaches like Baker and Deza have clout with college coaches and all they need to do is pick up a phone and your kid is pretty much there unless they screw it up. That’s a fact. It just is. I didn’t say I think Baker’s a good coach. I didn’t even say I agree with his, er, style. I never even recommended him. I never said he’s a nice guy, and I never even said he hasn’t crossed the line, although I did thoroughly enjoy pushing your and others’ buttons about what does and doesn’t constitute abuse.

In response to what isn’t even the least bit controversial even if you disagree with it, I’ve got people claiming I said he is the only person in SoCal with that power and am a liar, that I told them that their daughter sucked because they played for someone else, that I hate small clubs, that I support people who throw things at people, that I support kids training 7 days a week until they break their knees, etc. It’s this kind of crazy that I love most about this place. Real cray cray.

I will apologize for saying you misquoted me because I mistook you for @SoccerFan4Life. Kinda similar names. My mistake. I am sorry.
 
GT45 said:
You continue to miss the point. All you do is bring negativity here. Your opinions are clear. You do not think it should happen. We get it. A decision has been made that they are having it. Unless they change their minds it is on at this point.

I am going to do myself a favor and hit the ignore button on your URL so I do not have to read your negativity and attempts to post as facts things that are actually just rumors.
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You continue to miss the point. All you do is bring negativity here. Your opinions are clear. You think it should happen. We get it. A decision has been made that 400 teams have dropped out because it is the wise, safe and thoughtful thing to do. Unless they change their minds they aren’t coming at this point.

I am not going to do myself a favor and hit the ignore button on your URL because, unlike you, I’m not a snowflake.
 
EOTL said:
Cray cray place

I will apologize for saying you misquoted me because I mistook you for @SoccerFan4Life. Kinda similar names. My mistake. I am sorry.
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I agree with you. I came here because of the obvious crazy folks on here. I was hooked the day I first arrive. Some dad making fun of my baby girl for crying and winning all the time and scoring I might add....lol! The taste of victory is sweet to the soul. I love that you said sorry as well. I had two top coaches ((all about the right coach, that's for sure)) tell me they could pick up the phone right now and if they say this is a can;t miss, then they go for it. That was 8th grade and I said no thanks, too young and were here for pro anyways.
 
GT45 said:
You continue to miss the point. All you do is bring negativity here. Your opinions are clear. You do not think it should happen. We get it. A decision has been made that they are having it. Unless they change their minds it is on at this point.

I am going to do myself a favor and hit the ignore button on your URL so I do not have to read your negativity and attempts to post as facts things that are actually just rumors.
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The irony in this post is rich. I imagine you'll eventually read my response. Of course it's on until they decide it's not on. It's ok to support something and then re-assess conditions. Doesn't make you negative, it makes you an adult, with a brain that thinks critically.

Kinda like sitting next to a fire, when it becomes too hot, you make the decision to move. Good idea at first, not so much later. I mean, come one, what a silly take this is --> Surf is gonna happen until Surf isn't gonna happen?
 
GT45 said:
You continue to miss the point. All you do is bring negativity here. Your opinions are clear. You do not think it should happen. We get it. A decision has been made that they are having it. Unless they change their minds it is on at this point.

I am going to do myself a favor and hit the ignore button on your URL so I do not have to read your negativity and attempts to post as facts things that are actually just rumors.
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Any given team can only play 3-4 games. So it doesn't matter how many bug out we only need 3-4 teams per division and they can all be friendlies for all i care. "Let my people go.....play"
 
happy9 said:
AZ GA clubs have pulled their teams from Surf.

Surf could not answer the following questions:
- How many teams will be in attendance (400 have pulled out)
- Field locations

I don't 100% know the status of the AZ ECNL teams.
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I believe most did due to the possibility of HS soccer. Most girls are far more interested in playing for their HS vs Surf.

When HS was off...our club was in. When HS was on (or might be) our club pulled.
 
Desert Hound said:
I believe most did due to the possibility of HS soccer. Most girls are far more interested in playing for their HS vs Surf.

When HS was off...our club was in. When HS was on (or might be) our club pulled.
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We start up end of Feb. I'm praying the gods of soccer allow the girls to play HS Soccer in Socal. That would be super cool and free :)
 
Desert Hound said:
I believe most did due to the possibility of HS soccer. Most girls are far more interested in playing for their HS vs Surf.

When HS was off...our club was in. When HS was on (or might be) our club pulled.
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Thanks, I didn't want to speak on their behalf. Let's hope HS begins when they say it's going to begin and a somewhat meaningful season is played.
 
MSK357 said:
So surf couldn't answer how many teams would be in attendance, but YOU know that 400 have pulled out? I call BS.
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Exactly, these clown sheep dont anything about Surf cup tournament as far as how many teams committed and how many chose not to play. That tournament attracts teams from around the country also where their youth sports were never paused for the China virus. What an exceptional life they must live inside their bubbles with nothing better to do then talking trash about another clubs tournament 24/7.

Let them kids play Surf...
 
Lavey29 said:
Exactly, these clown sheep dont anything about Surf cup tournament as far as how many teams committed and how many chose not to play. That tournament attracts teams from around the country also where their youth sports were never paused for the China virus. What an exceptional life they must live inside their bubbles with nothing better to do then talking trash about another clubs tournament 24/7.

Let them kids play Surf...
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Racist
 
Lavey29 said:
Exactly, these clown sheep dont anything about Surf cup tournament as far as how many teams committed and how many chose not to play. That tournament attracts teams from around the country also where their youth sports were never paused for the China virus. What an exceptional life they must live inside their bubbles with nothing better to do then talking trash about another clubs tournament 24/7.

Let them kids play Surf...
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What's your take Mr. Insider? Within the confines of this very post, you are the only person who can't watch their player play an officially sanctioned game within their zip code. That's a bubble, whether self imposed or not.

But the intellectual banter back and forth is fun. If Surf pulls this off, hats off to them for their ability to negotiate. Don't take it so personal, this particular subject is being discussed to determine whether we think Surf will happen or not. The prevailing winds seem to not be in your favor.

Accusing someone of trashing Surf is is laughable, just like your doctrinal use of the term China Virus. I particularly don't care if you use the words, doesn't offend me, the virus did come from China. But your intent is juvenile and lame.

That's it for me for a bit. I need to put on my PPE so I can leave my "bubble". I have a player who needs to be at a legal practice in 30 mins. Maybe I'll responsibly order take out on the way home, and maybe have a socially distanced beer poured from the masked bartender while I wait.
 
EOTL said:
All I’ve said is coaches like Baker and Deza have clout with college coaches and all they need to do is pick up a phone and your kid is pretty much there unless they screw it up. That’s a fact. It just is. I didn’t say I think Baker’s a good coach. I didn’t even say I agree with his, er, style. I never even recommended him. I never said he’s a nice guy, and I never even said he hasn’t crossed the line, although I did thoroughly enjoy pushing your and others’ buttons about what does and doesn’t constitute abuse.

In response to what isn’t even the least bit controversial even if you disagree with it, I’ve got people claiming I said he is the only person in SoCal with that power and am a liar, that I told them that their daughter sucked because they played for someone else, that I hate small clubs, that I support people who throw things at people, that I support kids training 7 days a week until they break their knees, etc. It’s this kind of crazy that I love most about this place. Real cray cray.

I will apologize for saying you misquoted me because I mistook you for @SoccerFan4Life. Kinda similar names. My mistake. I am sorry.
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Plenty of parents would tolerate a coach like this if "They build winners!!" Or if they can get your kid a 1/4 ride scholarship to some D1 school in Montana.
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Youth Football Coach Investigated for Child Abuse, Worked In Law Enforcement

The coach who attacked the kid has been identified at Gerrel Williams -- who actually worked for a Sheriff's Dept. in Georgia.
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