Surf Cup's Fate

Lavey29 said:
Kind of funny but more realistic is youth sports as the allied forces going against the hypocritical politicians as the german forces. Of course we know the outcome after a hard fought battle.
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Part of the joke is that this is a well known meme that people have done about just about any subject where someone is losing and its practically over (everything from elections, to soccer contests, to the Rona). You also have to have seen the underlying film, which is pretty good.
 
Grace T. said:
Part of the joke is that this is a well known meme that people have done about just about any subject where someone is losing and its practically over (everything from elections, to soccer contests, to the Rona). You also have to have seen the underlying film, which is pretty good.
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I'm familiar with the meme uses in variations and also the film. I just gave my impression of the battle youth sports is having with nazi like hypocrites governing us.
 
outside! said:
Are you referring to the case against McDonalds for serving superheated coffee? If so, you don't know the details of the case. McDonalds was serving coffee in sealed cups that were pressure tight. They would reheat those cups in a microwave, causing the coffee to become superheated (hotter than the boiling temperature of water at atmospheric pressure). This caused the pressure in the sealed cup to increase, preventing the coffee from boiling. When the plaintiff broke the pressure seal by pushing the straw or stirrer (can't remember exactly) through the lid, the pressure in the cup dropped to atmospheric pressure causing the coffee to boil over and spew out of the cup under pressure. Everyone expects coffee to be hot, but they do not expect the coffee to spray out of the cup under pressure as the coffee boils over. The plaintiff received 3rd degree burns to their crotch and McDonalds justifiably lost that case. There are bad lawsuit cases out there, but this is not one of them.
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And it wasn't the first lawsuit for hot coffee that MacDonals's had faced. Their own witnesses were forced to admit that the cost of settlements of a few hundred dollars each (they had offered the lady in question $800 before trial) was insignificant compared to their coffee profits.
 
StrikerOC said:
I think you are under the assumption that most people care or respect these arbitrary rules put in place by state officials who don't even follow their own orders. I personally don't care about any stay at home order. This isn't about science anymore, this (covid) has become a religion to people in this country and lots of people on this message board. It's not about doing what's right by the kids or even following the science, to lots of people who are preaching about rules and lockdown restrictions it has become a part of their identity. I think that kind of mentality is weird and I would never let it dictate my decisions for myself or my family.
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I have to agree that religious fervor adequately explains the willingness to ignore common sense.
 
oh canada said:
There's no doubting the skyrocketing cases and hospitalizations both here in Cali and in AZ. More cases = more risk, regardless of your age, environment etc. If we can all agree to that, then why not just let go of playing one particular soccer tournament in 4 weeks and plan on playing in another in 8-12 weeks (still likely in AZ unfortunately)? I disagree with almost everything Newsom says, but I do think he got one thing right...we are in the 8th inning of this thing so just hang on a little longer and help our doctors and nurses save as many lives as possible.
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I don't want to derail this into another silly covid discussion but here I go. COVID spread and soccer are nearly unrelated. The city of phoenix, in an act of yellow cowardliness (typical of politicians), went after the only thing it had the guts to go after - kids and their sports. I don't disagree with Surf going away, for optics sake. But to shut down fields to club sports is beyond reasoning and doesn't follow "science". The City of Phoenix council is an underperforming, overwhelmed group of people. Plenty of organized club sports will be played in AZ this weekend, none in Phoenix.

Governments can walk and chew gum at the same time. And maybe they just can't. The inability to understand problems and solve them is strong.

The same appears to be true for any government body in the state of CA. The fact that you are so constrained that you have to travel out of state to play a game is asinine. Feel free to round up your club parents and take a field trip to a strip club in San Diego - that's allowed. Watching kids play soccer -->death awaits, watching a stripper -->instant immunity. Maybe you should play futsal in a strip club, sans strippers.
 
Soccermompeach said:
Interesting where the "Hot spots" are. AZ is worse case wise than California. https://covid19risk.biosci.gatech.edu
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Give it a few weeks. Things will change. The west coast appears to be the last place to get hit in the season. Maybe we can avoid a big surge. Based on the case graphs, CA upswing started about a month after AZ. I don’t see an obvious turn slowing of the rise in CA yet. AZ started to show slowing of the rise a few days before Thanksgiving. The data around Thanksgiving is tough to interpret - lots of tests immediately prior, relatively few the days immediately after. Another week should help clarify whether either is near the top.
 
soccer4us said:
This was sent by surf this morning to our team manager:

We were surprised by the City Council decision to cancel all tournaments in Phoenix for the foreseeable future as this really came out of nowhere. The ECNL event held in mid-November went off smoothly and without any issues. There has been no evidence that outdoor youth sporting events are super-spreader events or that they contribute to the rise in COVID cases within a city.

That being said, the city made the decision and now we have to take a moment to have a few discussions about Surf Cup. My inbox is flooded by people asking what's happening with the event. Please know that my communications will be with ALL accepted teams, not individual parents, managers or coaches. No one will have any information before anyone else.

We are sensitive to the travel arrangements that families have/are making but we need a little time to have discussions and explore options as we truly feel that these players need this event for more than just the soccer portion of what it brings but also for their physical and mental well being.
The goal is to have a decision, and communicate that decision, by Friday, December 4th. A knee-jerk reaction or panicking to the City Council decision isn't the best way to manage this. We do have options. Still in AZ. Still close to Phoenix but not in Phoenix. We are working with those field owners as we speak and will have a plan in place, or a decision soon and I will communicate that as soon as we have it.

We continue to remain committed to having an event for these players. The event has actually become more important as these children have lost so much since COVID became a reality and they need something to look forward to that will bring smiles and laughter back to them after all they have been through.

Personally, I ask that you please give us today to sort through all of this and withhold the emails until I can communicate directly with everyone what the plan is. I know everyone is eager to know the plan and I won't withhold any information any longer than necessary.
Please, keep your fingers and toes crossed and I will be in touch as soon as possible.

We appreciate your support and your willingness to hang in there with us through these challenges as we are all wanting to do something special for our children!



I figured they would exhaust all options before officially saying it's cancelled. I think it still get cancelled but never say never...
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any additional news?
 
outside! said:
Are you referring to the case against McDonalds for serving superheated coffee? If so, you don't know the details of the case. McDonalds was serving coffee in sealed cups that were pressure tight. They would reheat those cups in a microwave, causing the coffee to become superheated (hotter than the boiling temperature of water at atmospheric pressure). This caused the pressure in the sealed cup to increase, preventing the coffee from boiling. When the plaintiff broke the pressure seal by pushing the straw or stirrer (can't remember exactly) through the lid, the pressure in the cup dropped to atmospheric pressure causing the coffee to boil over and spew out of the cup under pressure. Everyone expects coffee to be hot, but they do not expect the coffee to spray out of the cup under pressure as the coffee boils over. The plaintiff received 3rd degree burns to their crotch and McDonalds justifiably lost that case. There are bad lawsuit cases out there, but this is not one of them.
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Are you sure about that? I've never heard any reference to the pressure shooting the coffee out the cup. My understanding was that she removed lid to add cream or sugar and spilled. Not saying it isn't true, I just have never heard that theory of the case.
 
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As promised, the update......

Despite the City Council vote to close the REACH 11 Complex, we believe we have a solution and therefore Surf Cup AZ (youngers and olders) is ON! We still have the Scottsdale Sports Complex for our event and there is no indication that the venue will close.

We have had overwhelming support from our friends in AZ in providing us options to hold the event in and around the Phoenix area (in areas NOT closed) and therefore, we are sending staff to Phoenix this weekend to check out our options so we can formulate our plan.

That plan will be communicated to all of you early next week. We have a lot to adjust in a very short amount of time but we want to do everything we can to make sure we can get your players back out on the fields playing the game they love.

We continue to be sensitive to what's going on in CA and part of the plan will be options for teams that feel it's in their best interest to not travel to AZ for the events so please wait until we communicate our plan, and your options, early next week before making a decision.

We will also work with each of the cities on their COVID protocols, which may be different by venue and, once confirmed by city/venue, that information will be communicated as well.

As the ECNL event is ongoing in SC right now and TX teams continue on with their league seasons (as do many other states) we want the same for the players coming to our events too so we are choosing to move forward and offer the events!

Look for a detailed communication early next week!

Thank you for your continued support!
 
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