MacDre
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12 years old. (December) 2007.
No games until 2021
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Desert Hound
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WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns
The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.
www.news.com.au
“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.
“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”
“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
I've never seen so many goal post and change with the wind cheaters in my life. This is not about what you all thought it was about. Oh no, we all know what's up now. The gig is up.WHO backflips on virus stance by condemning lockdowns
The World Health Organisation has backflipped on its original COVID-19 stance after calling for world leaders to stop locking down their countries and economies.
“We in the World Health Organisation do not advocate lockdowns as the primary means of control of this virus,” Dr Nabarro told The Spectator.
“The only time we believe a lockdown is justified is to buy you time to reorganise, regroup, rebalance your resources, protect your health workers who are exhausted, but by and large, we’d rather not do it.”
“Look what’s happened to smallholder farmers all over the world. … Look what’s happening to poverty levels. It seems that we may well have a doubling of world poverty by next year. We may well have at least a doubling of child malnutrition.”
MacDre
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I have some serious doubts as to the veracity of your statement regarding unknown risk.
COVID sucks for all but complaining doesn’t help. I guess I’m a make lemonade out of lemons type of guy. Isn’t mental fortitude an important quality for a keeper? What about the adage “if it doesn’t kill you, it will make you stronger?”
The tide does finally seem to be turning and team reality is on the upswing, particularly when it comes to restrictions on children. It will be interesting to see what the luminaries on team panic do in response to this growing push back....do they admit they were wrong or do they push back even harder particularly in light of the shifting public opinion? Sadly I think we know what the answer is in California.
MacDre
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So where are all of these closed parks. There are 2 state parks by my house and both are open (Benicia & East Bay Regional) I’ve also been to several city parks too (Benicia, Concord, Walnut Creek, Hercules, Vallejo, and Berkeley). Santa Cruz, Mt. Lassen, and Tahoe (CA side) all open too.
But, if city parks are closed, what does that have to do with Sacramento?
Mac,
With all do respect, your only child is 12. Please don’t come around here preaching like you know or can relate to the trials and tribulations of families who have more than one child that are older and have completely different issues than a pre-teen kid.
Mad Hatter
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It would seem that as the scientists really look at what they are finding, many are now realizing much of what the world has done has not been correct.
Just got back from Scottsdale where the kid played in a college ID clinic. First time she had real contact scrimmage in 8 months. She was so excited to play again and did remarkably well. There appears to be no covid in Arizona. Everything is open. Bars and restaurants packed. I walked into a packed restaurant with my mask on to get a to go order and everyone looked at me like I had the plague. What a difference from California where they are ruining people's business and lives with the closures. I have no doubt there are political motives behind these restrictions and if dems win then everything opens up again to boom the economy. F California and all the radical left socialists that have ruined this state and taken away childhood memories from our kids.
This is why self reporting is a really bad way to gather data. Yes, if you ask us, we all wear masks.
CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks
Over 70 percent of the case-patients who were contaminated with the virus fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.thefederalist.com
A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 “case-patients,” who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite “always” wearing a mask.
“In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public,” the report stated.
In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they “often” wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus."
That's because people lie when one answer is acceptable and the other is not. If you want to know whether people wear masks, use a camera.
If both answers are acceptable, you can find out interesting things. Like people who catch covid are more than twice as likely to have gone to restaurants as people who did not catch covid:
Community and Close Contact Exposures Associated with COVID-19 ...
Community and close contact exposures continue to drive the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic. CDC and other public health authorities recommend community mitigation strategies ...
www.cdc.gov
MacDre
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I promise I’m not preaching. I truly don’t understand the rush back to soccer. Many frequently speak about their kids dreams to play college soccer but turn around and say their kid only plays soccer. WTF? I come from a time and place where kids played multiple sports. This travel ball mentality is new and very strange to me.
So I guess my question to all regardless of whether your kid is 8, 12, or 16 is how is only playing soccer beneficial? Doesn’t cross training increase athleticism and reduce risk of injury? Doesn’t cross training increase the chance of excelling in soccer?
That's what 99.5% of us are trying to get across to the .5% with all the power and decision making in our lives. This virus is not killing and I repeat, the virus is not killing the kids. My old adage is, "play ball." It has to be about something else Dre and the kids are stuck in the middle and that is why one side will lose. Mess with the kids life and you think that is a winning formula? It's a lot like divorce, when the parents fight, the kids get used as pawns and trust me, divorce can get nasty. Guess what, our kids are getting the short end of the stick all because some adults can;t get along and will do whatever and use whatever means necessary to get what they believe is rightfully theirs and most importantly, how wrong one side is. I have my own special fund for my end of life care so I NEVER end up with one these docs making decisions for my health. hell no!!!!
If a policy such as a mask mandate is dependent upon people using them correctly and not cheating then it's not a fair defense of the policy to say it would have succeded if people had been better at it. The article does not say if the people were subject to a mask mandate, but there at least seems to be a social one because as you say "if you ask us, we all wear masks". What your statement implies then is to be effective, police (or someone in authority), like seatbeats should be empowered to ticket (or some other sanction) of folks that go around removing masks for conversations, or taking them off early when sitting at a restaurant, or letting their noses peak out. Or you are claiming the policy would fail because we have failed to properly "educate" people and have yet to build the perfect Soviet man.
If big tech doesn’t silence scientist, besides WHO, they need to start calling out the Fuhrors, whacky and diabolical decisions. Start voting this man and his agenda out of office as soon as we can, so at least the divorce will be final.
Eagle33
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It's very hard to vote out anyone if majority of people in CA who vote wearing mask inside their own cars
youthsportsugghhh
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The problem I have is how people keep saying the scientists obviously got it wrong in the beginning because they keep changing their minds. The science was and is correct -- the politicians are making it more. Science gives you information and you do with it what you will. Terms like FEAR and TERRIFIED don't move things forward effectively just like calling names isn't productive.
The lockdown was the correct call at the beginning when things were severely unknown and new. Opening things up now has mixed results because not everyone is rowing in the same direction -- one side is rowing to the right and the other to the left -- not productive.
IMO -- Wearing masks is still the correct call when out in public, but I don't have an issue with opening certain places up if space and precautions can be taken. That goes for youth sports -- I am skeptical that basketball going on in places isn't having an affect on the cases in the community. I can also see where it wouldn't be a big deal if the kids participating are all on the same page and really not having contact with the greater community. Suffice it to say -- I think soccer could work, but again it would take people actually working together to keep contacts in that limited group.
The lockdown was the correct call at the beginning when things were severely unknown and new. Opening things up now has mixed results because not everyone is rowing in the same direction -- one side is rowing to the right and the other to the left -- not productive.
IMO -- Wearing masks is still the correct call when out in public, but I don't have an issue with opening certain places up if space and precautions can be taken. That goes for youth sports -- I am skeptical that basketball going on in places isn't having an affect on the cases in the community. I can also see where it wouldn't be a big deal if the kids participating are all on the same page and really not having contact with the greater community. Suffice it to say -- I think soccer could work, but again it would take people actually working together to keep contacts in that limited group.
PruritusAniFC
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dont you mean the opposite
MacDre
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Are the parks in your hood closed Crush? If so, why not ask your mayor to open them up?
I don't have the history at my finger tips, but the change began with the rise of the notion of "1000 touches a day" to become an expert at something, which really took off in the early 2000. And IIRC it began with music (piano or violin). The unfortunate reality is that there is some truth to that. Human beings learn through repetition and muscle memory. In either music or athletics, you want to get to the point where you don't have to think about something in order to execute it....your body has seen the scenario and just reacts to it.
Add to that complexity is that there is a lot to learn. Take goalkeeping for example. A goalkeeper (on top of being a great soccer player) must learn (partial list): handling and the various hand positions; positioning, footwork, and angel play; the low dive, the high dive, the forward dive (both collapse and extension, low/top/both hands); defending a cross or corner; high catches and tipping over bar; distribution (rolls, GKs, various throws, punts, sidewinder); defending the free kick; defending the penalty; tactics; communication; sweeper play and the backpass; and the 1 v 1 (and about 7+ different techniques to defend hem). Once a week group lessons starting at age 12 isn't going to get you all these things yet the game requires a GK to know (if not be a master in) all of them. It takes a year just to get the average kid GK to catch and dive without hurting themselves before you can even get to improving effective defensive play.
In the past a great all around athlete could fake it and make up with their athleticism. But that was before a few individuals began to specialize and really learn their craft. It's a bit of a prisoner's dilemma....if a few people are doing it, the others will fall behind unless they do it as well...it would take a collective agreement by everyone that no one is going to specialize, because as soon as 1 person does that person gains an inherent advantage.
It's not just limited to athletics either. In law and medicine, for example, people used to be a lot more generalized but the scope of knowledge has grown over the last 20 or so years that it's impossible for 1 person to learn it all. Even if medicine, for example, it's no longer enough to be just a urologist....instead you are a urologist that specializes in repairing bladder fissures. Add to that specifically that colleges are looking for that specialized athlete, and have in general put an emphasis on people doing amazing things instead of being "well rounded", and you have where we are today.
We need the Great Park to allow full contact soccer for kids. We keep asking and were denied to play a soccer game.