Why keep arguing, NO FALL SOCCER!

yes. They can afford to test multiple times per week. We can’t.

They entertain millions. We don’t.

Read Kante’s article on overall risk of soccer. It’s a good study. Basically, if one person in a high level soccer game has covid, the other 21 players get exposed for an average of 90 seconds. (Not all equally. Most get less, the ones guarding him get more.). But a total of about 30 minutes of exposure, spread over 21 people.

90 seconds for a whole game that lasts 90 minutes. Thus 1 second per minute


The Aarhus University study was the one that was used to get people back on the pitch with the 90 seconds of total interaction with 1 person sick.

Other studies were done as well and the biggest interaction between players was during corner kicks. One of the reasons some states have started up soccer again with modified rules on slide tackles and corner kicks.
 
No road trips just yet. I tend towards "hide under the bed" instead of "help covid infect my friends".
How many of your friends have you helped get infected with Covid? I'm betting zero, which is very admirable.

Ironically, that's the same number that I've helped infect despite living my life as normal as possible, including a number of road trips, while taking common sense precautions.
 
I'm just curious . Around how many different teams that you know of played scrimmages in AZ last weekend ?
3 or 4 , 10 to 15 or ? just would like a rough estimate .
I personally don't care about team names but any trend in age groups ? Like mostly olders , mostly youngers etc .
Thank you
I know of 07-03 games that were played last weekend. I know Legends, West Coast, Surf, and Rebels were here. I believe Blues may have been as well.
 
How many of your friends have you helped get infected with Covid? I'm betting zero, which is very admirable.

Ironically, that's the same number that I've helped infect despite living my life as normal as possible, including a number of road trips, while taking common sense precautions.
You are making a statistics argument with n=1?

Sorry. Not valid.
 
What is California’s Culture and do you consider it superior to Arizona’s?
Regrettably they are quite similar these days, much to the "zonies" dismay. Crowded, strip malls, chain restaurants, bad air, traffic. If you are in Orange Country, click your heels 3 times, and maybe you'll wind up in Chandler, Gilbert, Mesa - same thing minus the coast. I live north of all of that - we've been able to protect our "culture" for the most part. Many battles have been won but it's likely that we will lose the war. CA's manifest destiny will not be stopped.
 
That's really funny. 115 degrees and zero culture, but I want to go so that my kid can play soccer too.
It's like a family I know from LA that moved to Georgia (Alpharetta, to be specific) in April, so their kid could play elite baseball through the spring.
Hahaha! This reminded me of one of my favorite South Park episodes with the "smug storm". Be careful, AZ, there's even more smug in CA than when this first came out. Maybe you have noticed.

 
You are making a statistics argument with n=1?

Sorry. Not valid.
Observational, not statistical. Although I could easily increase N, just off the cuff I could come up with a few hundred family, friends and work associates that road tripped this year without spreading the virus.

Speaking of statistics, here is a fun fact. In SD County the odds of being hospitalized with Covid if your less than 60 are roughly the same odds of winning $100 on a $2 lottery scratcher, while the odds of dying are 15x more remote than winning $100 on the same $2 scratcher. Dang that justifies going out and buying some scratchers to get a 50x return on my investment.
 
How many of your friends have you helped get infected with Covid? I'm betting zero, which is very admirable.

Ironically, that's the same number that I've helped infect despite living my life as normal as possible, including a number of road trips, while taking common sense precautions.

What are your common sense precautions?
 
Observational, not statistical. Although I could easily increase N, just off the cuff I could come up with a few hundred family, friends and work associates that road tripped this year without spreading the virus.

Speaking of statistics, here is a fun fact. In SD County the odds of being hospitalized with Covid if your less than 60 are roughly the same odds of winning $100 on a $2 lottery scratcher, while the odds of dying are 15x more remote than winning $100 on the same $2 scratcher. Dang that justifies going out and buying some scratchers to get a 50x return on my investment.

Nonsense.
 
Observational, not statistical. Although I could easily increase N, just off the cuff I could come up with a few hundred family, friends and work associates that road tripped this year without spreading the virus.

Speaking of statistics, here is a fun fact. In SD County the odds of being hospitalized with Covid if your less than 60 are roughly the same odds of winning $100 on a $2 lottery scratcher, while the odds of dying are 15x more remote than winning $100 on the same $2 scratcher. Dang that justifies going out and buying some scratchers to get a 50x return on my investment.
Your attempt to increase N by including a correlated subgroup also fails. The reason should be in chapter 1 or 2 of your stats book.

There are people who do this for a living. Why not listen to them?
 
Well many have asked how long do we continue hiding in our basements.

Fauci is giving us a clue.

Fauci says the arrival of a vaccine won’t mean life will return to normal, perhaps for more than a year.

“If you’re talking about getting back to a degree of normality which resembles where we were prior to COVID, it’s going to be well into 2021, maybe even towards the end of 2021,said the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases on Friday.

But Fauci warned that widespread distribution and getting “the majority, or more, of the population vaccinated and protected” won’t happen until perhaps the end 2021,

 
Well many have asked how long do we continue hiding in our basements.

Fauci is giving us a clue.

Fauci says the arrival of a vaccine won’t mean life will return to normal, perhaps for more than a year.

“If you’re talking about getting back to a degree of normality which resembles where we were prior to COVID, it’s going to be well into 2021, maybe even towards the end of 2021,said the director of National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases on Friday.

But Fauci warned that widespread distribution and getting “the majority, or more, of the population vaccinated and protected” won’t happen until perhaps the end 2021,

That’s odd. I haven’t been asking how long to hide in my basement/under my bed.

I do ask how long morons are going to keep going out to bars and restaurants.

People diagnosed with covid recently went out to restaurants at about 50% above the rate of the general population. p=0.01. Same ratio for churches, and bars/coffee shops. ( The study did not distinguish between bars and coffee houses.)


This is what the p =0.01 means: There is a 1% chance that you might see this through random chance. There is a 99% chance that there is some kind of association between going to restaurants and getting a positive covid test.

So, when you are out there “living your life” at the bar/church/casino/motorcycle rally/restaurant, be aware of what else you are doing. You are, very slightly, increasing the rate of spread of coronavirus. And, together with the millions of other people doing the same, you are helping extend the period we all have to suffer through this.

(Now waiting for your lame explanation of why statistics don’t apply to you.)
 
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