CIF decision
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Eagle33
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D7 is small private and prep schools. Most of those have Varsity only teams
Varsity only in many sports might be a reality.
for us we’d pick ecnl over high school which SUCKS after being in DA and looking forward to high school for many reasons. But if soccer is up and going in the spring and our kid wants to play in college, it’s not worth missing club practice or games for hs. Plus the overload. If all is up and running getting exposure will be the priority in spring and hs won’t do that.
Maybe (?) club will be running before then and ecnl can get in an event of two so if you play hs you don’t miss any opportunities.
and I’m 100% certain our ecnl club coach won’t be flexible with missing club practice all week to accommodate all the different high schools game schedules. I’ve seen this movie before. But who knows. Everything is upside down.
for us we’d pick ecnl over high school which SUCKS after being in DA and looking forward to high school for many reasons. But if soccer is up and going in the spring and our kid wants to play in college, it’s not worth missing club practice or games for hs. Plus the overload. If all is up and running getting exposure will be the priority in spring and hs won’t do that.
Maybe (?) club will be running before then and ecnl can get in an event of two so if you play hs you don’t miss any opportunities.
and I’m 100% certain our ecnl club coach won’t be flexible with missing club practice all week to accommodate all the different high schools game schedules. I’ve seen this movie before. But who knows. Everything is upside down.
It would suck if your dd coach would put the either or on your player. I had a whole league do that to my kid and that sucked big time. My guess is they try to work together. Also, my dd will do both some way some how and manage the right health aspects.
Eagle33
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It would heavily depend on how good your HS program is. If it's not, then no point to play HS, but otherwise you may get more opportunities to get recruited out of HS then you may think.
Varsity only is not the answer to anything. There are many kids that want to play in HS but will never play on Varsity.
There are some very solid hs/club soccer players that also excel at track, tennis, softball and lacrosse.
Will be very interesting to see what these players decide to do. Will be interesting to see what the HS AD and coaches try to do with these players. Will be interesting to see how roster sizes will be impacted.
Will be very interesting to see what these players decide to do. Will be interesting to see what the HS AD and coaches try to do with these players. Will be interesting to see how roster sizes will be impacted.
Eagle33
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it will be the time for HS coaches from different sports to finally work together with dual/triple sport athletes, instead of telling them to pick one sport.
In HS our kicker on the football team was the star soccer player. Football and soccer were played during the same season. He would often be running from one practice to the other. Soccer games were usually on Thursday. Football games on Friday. There was one week were the football game got moved to a Thursday. He got the football game at halftime.
The last year has been interesting and it will interesting to see what plays out next year
Always keep academics first and foremost.
Early doses should go to hospital workers, EMT's, people with compromised immunity, fire fighters, law enforcement. It has nothing to do with governors or any political agenda.
Especially if they haven't played any games in 9 or 10 months. It is a disaster waiting to happen.
Bottome line is... If you play at the ECNL level and you're a 2021 or 2022 grad year, HS soccer should not be an option for you... especially if you're not already committed. Assuming they want to play in college, their effort should be playing at the highest level possible without getting hurt and having college coaches see you. College coaches almost never come to HS games. Club trainings, ECNL games + HS trainings and games is a recipe for disaster.
I bet you $50 that ECNL SW will make it work so kids have a choice for both. You sound like my dd old Doc coach. Obviously people like you and others will say it should not be an option. I say it should be an option for those who want both.
Eagle33
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Is this from your personal experience? It's just my experience is very different.
I know few coaches who coach both ECNL and HS, I also know few college coaches who love to come to HS games.
I don't know any college coaches who "love" to come to HS games, but I know some college coaches who will attend a HS game to look at a player they have already heard about.
We have college coaches attending our HS games, come playoff time there a bunch of them and other scouts.
If a HS player is a standout "all" team type they will get noticed however there are only 11-15 of those per division so the club showcase players might have a numbers difference advantage, more of them being offered especially on the girls side
What are you talking about? When I say "should not be an option for you" I don't mean because it's not. YOU or anyone else can do whatever YOU want to do. However (and I thought I was clear about this) if you plan on playing in college, it is my opinion that you should not play HS while club is going on because it will be a waste of your time if you're trying to get recruited. Did you not read what I said? You're reading it as if I'm saying there should be a mandate and that couldn't be further from the truth. If you want your DD to do both...more power to you, but HS will NOT get your kid recruited and WILL leave them suseptable to injury particularly if they choose to do both at the same time.
It is my personal experience. I've never witnessed any coaches coming to my DDs HS games, but she also didn't advertise is because it's shit soccer. All recruitement came from a combination of her ECNL and NPL league games + ECNL showcases. I said "almost never" regarding college coaches coming to watch. I'm sure upon occasion they do, but from what I know/understand...they don't show up to HS games. If your DD is being heavily recruited and invited some to a HS game, that could be a different story. All I'm saying is it's not common by any stretch.
Mic Nificent
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Crazy to try and do both. It’s not worth the risk injury. I say pick one and live with your decision and be thankful they might even have the option and games are actually played.
I don’t think ecnl will work with high school schedules and suspend games for the spring. That’s prime recruiting time and a chance for ecnl to make money on events. And after all this time off clubs will create college exposure tournaments and kids like mine will not miss those to play high school.
I’d love to be wrong but I can’t imagine ecnl or any other club league will have been suspended from March 2020 until March 2021 only to hold off for 3 months for kids to play high school. ESP since college coaches will be working from a missed year as well.
maybe club will get up and going prior to that. And maybe individual CIF sections will cancel the rule to play both club and hs at once (it’s up to each section to institute that). Or maybe we have a vaccine in 12 weeks. Or maybe we are all sitting at home still.
and when and if we have a vaccine it should go to immune compromised, those on front lines, essential workers and communities of color where the infection and death rate is insanely high. I’m fine sitting in suburbia in my big house with a healthy family and resources and be later in line. Let’s put all this social justice and systemic racism talk into action and care for and vaccinate those in need first.
I’d love to be wrong but I can’t imagine ecnl or any other club league will have been suspended from March 2020 until March 2021 only to hold off for 3 months for kids to play high school. ESP since college coaches will be working from a missed year as well.
maybe club will get up and going prior to that. And maybe individual CIF sections will cancel the rule to play both club and hs at once (it’s up to each section to institute that). Or maybe we have a vaccine in 12 weeks. Or maybe we are all sitting at home still.
and when and if we have a vaccine it should go to immune compromised, those on front lines, essential workers and communities of color where the infection and death rate is insanely high. I’m fine sitting in suburbia in my big house with a healthy family and resources and be later in line. Let’s put all this social justice and systemic racism talk into action and care for and vaccinate those in need first.