My dd is not ID at all that I'm aware of. She has never talked to a D1 head coach. She is going to email her 20 some colleges she's interested in a video at the right time and now is not the right time. Were hoping HS Soccer is on and those coaches who would like to watch my dd and other top players in HS play for their schools. The timing is right. It's time to make HS Soccer awesome. Why? So all girls can play and I guarantee it you will find some really good players who might just fall in love with soccer and not play basketball or track or they might do all three and that's all good too. That's what I mean about them being the old days. I agree the college coaches went to ECNL and GDA showcases in the old days. Maybe we can make HS Soccer a viable free option for all students at the school? Your basically saying the play sucks and I would have to disagree with you. The Sunset League in Girls soccer had some really good Srs last year and many were going to some of the top D1 schools. What part of Scoal does your goat play HS in? @MakeAPlay understands all this as well. Some kids have to be social at school and soccer at her school is cool. They play possession unless their taking on a big physical team like Palos Verdes, then it's stay out of jump balls and no stupid plays. My dd is super tough and aggressive but is not stupid. BTW, I wanted my dd to play GDA and not HS soccer because three Docs told me what your saying. I let my dd do what she wanted and were all happy.
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I do, I want ECNL to work out and the GA and all the leagues. That is 100%. However, let's find a way to do both.
Eagle33
PREMIER
How all those girls made colleges pre-ECNL and pre-DA? Playing ECNL is not the only option to get noticed. Again, if you HS program sucks that's a different story, but there are plenty very good programs with great coaching, at least in OC.
Is your DD already in college?
Patandpats
SILVER
Lots of great players in high school and they are getting recruited. Here are the TDS all region teams and their commitments. Some pretty great schools.
CALIFORNIA-NORTH
[Includes the Central Coast, North Coast, Sac-Joaquin and Northern sections]
CALIFORNIA-SOUTH
[Includes the Central, Los Angeles, San Diego and Southern sections]
CALIFORNIA-NORTH
[Includes the Central Coast, North Coast, Sac-Joaquin and Northern sections]
| F | Karlie Lema | Live Oak (Calif.) | Jr. | California |
| F | Emma Vane | Archbishop Mitty (Calif.) | Jr. | |
| M | Megan Edelman | Monte Vista (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| M | Julia Leontini | Monte Vista (Calif.) | Sr. | Stanford |
| M | Sistine Noel | Mountain View (Calif.) | Jr. | Santa Clara |
| M | Elizabeth Ospeck | Carondelet (Calif.) | Sr. | Notre Dame |
| M | Michaela Rosenbaum | Montgomery (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| M | Lexi Zandonella | Carondelet (Calif.) | Sr. | Sonoma State |
| D | Julia Gonsman | Amador Valley (Calif.) | Sr. | California |
| D | Isabella Panaccione | St. Francis-Mountain View (Calif.) | Jr. | Santa Clara |
| GK | Leah Freeman | Berkeley (Calif.) | Sr. | Oregon |
| Coach | Shane Kennedy | Tamalpais (Calif.) |
[Includes the Central, Los Angeles, San Diego and Southern sections]
| F | Colby Barnett | Los Alamitos (Calif.) | Jr. | Santa Clara |
| F | Samantha Williams | JSerra (Calif.) | Sr. | Stanford |
| F | Alexandria Wright | Carlsbad (Calif.) | Jr. | UCLA |
| M | Rilee Harmon | Santiago/Corona (Calif.) | Sr. | California |
| M | Tabitha LaParl | Los Alamitos (Calif.) | Jr. | Pepperdine |
| M | Isabel Loza | La Mirada (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| M | Grace Watkins | Mira Costa (Calif.) | Sr. | Duke |
| M | Marin Whieldon | Upland (Calif.) | Sr. | Washington State |
| D | Anna DeLeon | Palos Verdes (Calif.) | Sr. | Florida |
| D | Kendyll Fritts | JSerra (Calif.) | Sr. | Colorado |
| GK | Ryan Campbell | JSerra (Calif.) | Sr. | Stanford |
| Coach | Bo Whieldon | Upland (Calif.) |
Patandpats
SILVER
Here are the boys and remember all of these commitments are before the DA ended and we added even more great players to HS whenever it happens.
CALIFORNIA-NORTH
[Includes the Central Coast, North Coast, Sac-Joaquin and Northern sections]
CALIFORNIA-SOUTH
[Includes the Central, Los Angeles, San Diego and Southern sections]
CALIFORNIA-NORTH
[Includes the Central Coast, North Coast, Sac-Joaquin and Northern sections]
| F | Zack Batchelder | Montgomery (Calif.) | Sr. | UC Davis |
| F | Liam Johnson | Sacred Heart Prep (Calif.) | Sr. | Santa Clara |
| F | Wyatt Meyer | St. Mary's (Calif.) | Sr. | California |
| M | Julian Churchill | Jesuit (Calif.) | Sr. | Washington |
| M | Kalani Kossa-Rienzi | Berkeley (Calif.) | Sr. | Washington |
| M | Chris Meyers | Jesuit (Calif.) | Sr. | Washington |
| M | Miguel Tostado | Menlo-Atherton (Calif.) | Sr. | UC Santa Barbara |
| M | Kevin Welch | Montgomery (Calif.) | Sr. | UC Davis |
| D | Tate Hackett | Bellarmine Prep (Calif.) | Jr. | |
| D | Diego Ramos | Ygnacio Valley (Calif.) | Jr. | |
| GK | Fernando Escobedo | Clayton Valley Charter | Sr. | |
| Coach | Jon Schwan | Montgomery (Calif.) |
[Includes the Central, Los Angeles, San Diego and Southern sections]
| F | Grayson Doody | Loyola (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| F | Buba Fofanah | Cate School (Calif.) | Sr. | Portland |
| F | Jake Means | Simi Valley (Calif.) | Sr. | UC Irvine |
| M | Moises Hernandez | San Luis Obispo (Calif.) | Sr. | Cal Poly |
| M | Jake Kosakoff | Torrey Pines (Calif.) | Sr. | UC San Diego |
| M | Tyler Oakson | Mission Viejo (Calif.) | Sr. | SMU |
| M | Uriel Sanchez | Servite (Calif.) | Sr. | Cal State Dominguez Hills |
| M | Andrew Valverde | North Torrance (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| M/D | Pablo Greenlee | Harvard-Westlake (Calif.) | Sr. | UCLA |
| D | Tomas Griego | Loyola (Calif.) | Sr. | San Francisco State |
| GK | David Mitzner | Servite (Calif.) | Sr. | Portland |
| Coach | Arturo Lopez | Cathedral (Calif.) |
Excellent information Pats. Don;t forget Reilyn Turner from Laguna Beach HS. UCLA commit. She really wanted to play this last season but got hurt at one of those Woman National Team games and had to sit out. It was not safe for her at all. The other teams swarmed her and played way to rough on her and it was at times bush league, if you know what I mean. By far the best player my dd had the privilege to play with. Basically, when my dd was a Fr she and the other Srs were amazing to the little Fr rookies. My dd was a new student and didnt know a soul and the veterans on that team took care of her.
The Outlaw *BANNED*
PREMIER
I'll bet every single one of them played club ball... and probably at a high profile club as well. When you submit a player profile to TDS, it asks for your club name and high school.
I was thinking this morning about this. I have never ever heard someone tell me high school basketball sucks and it's too dangerous or talent-less. I have heard people say their basketball team sucks because they have no talent, but not, "basketball sucks in High School." I played baseball in the South Coast League in the early 80s. I would never have said, "high school baseball sucks and the players who play high school baseball suck. The scouts only watch travel ball games." The truth is our school was in the wrong league and we got killed by the likes of Capo Valley HS, Mission Viejo, San Clemente, to name a few of the giants. We would lose 23-2, no joke. I got my chance to hit with MLB scouts in the stands with their MPH guns. I went up against guys like Lee Plemel from Laguna Hills, the Call bros from Capo and some top draft pick named Dobbs from Capo beach. I also hit against Paul Abbott out of Sunny Hills. I struck out against all of them. Abbott and Dobbs were in the 90s with a nasty change up and curve ball. 1, 2 3 and my dream was over. I did not stand their looking and went out swinging foolishly in front of the scouts. Big wake up call for me that I was not big league material. So I went for being a pro surfer instead. EOTL thinks I was pro and I never said that. My bros were but not me. My best chance of pro was baseball and I smoked way too much weed in High School. I'm all for it for medical purposes for those over 50 with bad back but no flower for teens.
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To be clear, HS was social, not a place where the girls got recruited. These top players did not need a showcase either, they already were on the lists in 7th & 8th grade. I got all this figured out now but it's no point to go back into the past everyone. The future is now and all this soccer tiers will get sorted out. Soccer first of all needs to be free at the grass roots. It's free around the world but expensive as hell to play here. We need a plan where kids can play for free.
Stephen A smith
BRONZE
Exactly why the mens teams don't qualify for the WC. The system is set up for the the ones that can afford it. That doesn't mean they are the best. Then you see clubs Taking money from the government and parents. I doubt they give any back. On top of that they are holding camps. It's all greed
You pretty much answered your own question. There was no ECNL, DA. Coaches looked at ODP teams, league, conference champions and nationals championship teams, national teams.
So you didn't read what I said. It is only a problem when both are going on at the SAME TIME!!! My kid played HS ball her Fresh and Soph years, so I'm not against the concept of playing for your school, social aspects, blah blah blah. I get it. She's in ECNL so you can play if you want to. My issue is when both ECNL and HS will be during the same time frame! Playing either both or choosing to play HS over ECNL is not a wise choice IMO. As good as you say your HS league is, it's not anywhere near ECNL and will never be as long as this level of soccer exists for elite players and players striving to be elite.
I'm not disputing that at all. As others have said, there are many paths to Rome. I'm just saying HS ONLY is very much the not travelled path. Can it work out? Sure. I guess. I don't know of any "I only played HS without club and got recruited to play womens D1 soccer". My kid is going into her senior year and has been committed since Soph year before the rule changed.
Simisoccerfan
PREMIER
Every single girl listed above for Cal South played ECNL. It is just plain ignorant and wrong to think that HS soccer had anything to do with it. Also no one that is uncommitted and wants to play in college. will chose HS over ECNL if you can’t do both. Also girls need to play for clubs or leagues that use Instat since college recruiting budgets will be slashed for years.
This is girls HS soccer and you're comparing it to HS BBall from a recruiting standpoint. It's not comaparable! You can wish it to happen, but doesn't mean it will.
Look Dubs, I watched all this with my own eyes. This is not a right or wrong but more of a both and. I'm not advocating doing both hard core either. If your coach ((Doc)) is whispering things like, "HS Soccer sucks" then I would say back to him, "you suck." To each his own. I can tell you ECNL and GDA had issues with Ganas. I saw girls play at showcases and the zeal and ganas to win was not there. I then see these same girls play in big rival games in HS and the player is amazing because their playing with school pride and ganas. I saw my own two eyes. I am a witness and I know sports should be played with ganas, not soft development where you dont try hard to not get hurt. The showcases are more for individuals who want to show off imo. I did not see the spirit of winning. Again, I believe ECNL will work things out for Socal HS Soccer. Let's in brace it. You dd must have been in a bad league with a bad coach. High School Soccer Rules....lol!!!
and they did both.