CIF decision

So I can only assume this means no club soccer, at least not until Spring? Is that a pretty good assumption?
ECNL spring may be a go? At this point, I've already accepted no season as have all my children. Our attitude is go with the flow and train and be ready regardless of the decision for club.
 
Futbol30 said:
So I can only assume this means no club soccer, at least not until Spring? Is that a pretty good assumption?
ECNL spring may be a go? At this point, I've already accepted no season as have all my children. Our attitude is go with the flow and train and be ready regardless of the decision for club.
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I would agree with no games until Spring. Just hope at least normal training can resume some time in Fall
 
Mic Nificent said:
Might just look into homeschooling this year and get the tax credit and stipend. Has anyone done this in the past? She can focus on club soccer (If club soccer resumes) and use the stipend for a personal trainer/coach. Seems like kids may have to choose HS or club? Doing both at the same time is a quick remedy for injuries or burnout. With multiple kids too. IDK
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I heard same as EJ about the money in Cali.

It's not difficult to set up and run yourself. File a Private School Affidavit - about a 2 page "application" - not a big deal. Primary things to keep in mind:
- If your child has any desire to play soccer at a DI or DII, make sure she fulfills the 16 core course requirement by the NCAA. That means the specific institution offering the course must have that course approved by the NCAA for it to count. Generally, online schools identify if a course fulfills this requirement.
- UC schools have a similar requirement AND a different approval process. So, a course may fulfill requirements for UC but not NCAA or NCAA and not UC.
- Community Colleges typically offer free tuition to high school students. This is a good way to get a high quality class without shelling out $.

If you want more information, PM me and I'd be happy to discuss it with you.
 
Eagle33 said:
I would agree with no games until Spring. Just hope at least normal training can resume some time in Fall
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Yeah, it will be interesting to see how the clubs handle the training. With limited fields, etc. The zoom and the "camps" can only last so long.. hopefully we will get some clarity from the state regarding training, Best of luck to all the players and the HS athletes as well on the board
 
Mic Nificent said:
Might just look into homeschooling this year and get the tax credit and stipend. Has anyone done this in the past? She can focus on club soccer (If club soccer resumes) and use the stipend for a personal trainer/coach. Seems like kids may have to choose HS or club? Doing both at the same time is a quick remedy for injuries or burnout. With multiple kids too. IDK
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IIRC the governor eliminated the tax credit for new home school. To prevent too many people fleeing the public schools. There are some new rules on certificate and cooperatives too, to dissuade people
 
WSJ reported today they AstraZenica is planning to have about half of the planned vaccine doses out by end of year. If it is proportional, US share of the early doses would cover 150 million people.

So that Jan 2021 start date may work out.

Still need stage 3 results and all that, but this is the best news I’ve seen in months.
 
dad4 said:
WSJ reported today they AstraZenica is planning to have about half of the planned vaccine doses out by end of year. If it is proportional, US share of the early doses would cover 150 million people.

So that Jan 2021 start date may work out.

Still need stage 3 results and all that, but this is the best news I’ve seen in months.
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at least CIF is the only organization who came out with the actual plan.
 
dad4 said:
WSJ reported today they AstraZenica is planning to have about half of the planned vaccine doses out by end of year. If it is proportional, US share of the early doses would cover 150 million people.

So that Jan 2021 start date may work out.

Still need stage 3 results and all that, but this is the best news I’ve seen in months.
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Doubt children will be first in line for it, particularly given our governors recent actions. For the younger kids they also have to be pediatric doses which require additional testing.
 
I know not everyone is happy with this. But isn't this about what we expected? And probably the best possible outcome?
If you are a multi-sport HS athlete with your sports all taking place in the same season - It will be a tough decision.
For club soccer players - now that CIF will allow you to play club and hs sports at the same time - it will be very interesting.
I hope that clubs and high schools can work something out that is in the best interest of the players. (IE - lets not have club practice on Tuesday and Thursday when HS games take place. Let's not make kids run from HS practice straight to club practice and kill them with hardcore fitness. Maybe even space out club games to play every other weekend so players can have some time to recover. Maybe we'll even see some college coaches making the rounds of HS games to take the pressure of of clubs to find showcases as soon as the college dark period ends)
 
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What will ECNL do or is it up to the clubs to decide how to manage doing both. ECNL spring league starts at same time
 
IMO the kids will have to choose between club and HS. Otherwise they'll be doing 5+ days of training and games per week-- that's not realistic to maintain and we will see a huge number of injuries. Maybe we'll see some roster expansion at the HS level to accommodate this. (Start teaching your kids about "load management" now, I guess?)

In reading the guidance from the governor's office, the moment a 1000-person high school hits 50 cases within 2 weeks, the school has to close to in-person instruction and can only open 2 weeks later. Presumably that means athletics as well. Do these games wind up getting postponed? Forfeited? Do the kids from the affected high school then wind up having to self-quarantine, and then miss club games?

I mean, good on CIF to provide this guidance-- it's definitely needed.
 
ToonArmy said:
What will ECNL do or is it up to the clubs to decide how to manage doing both. ECNL spring league starts at same time
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ECNL had a spring heavy schedule to begin with so there going to have to make some big adjustment. With the fall pushed back or not going some decision to be made for sure.

Field availability is going to be one of the biggest hurdle for soccer at the beginning with football still going from Dec 14 to March 12, playoffs until 4/16 and soccer staring practice in February with first games 2/27 through 5/6 and playoffs until 6/5.

Spring tournaments and State/national cup going to have to adjust also would think.
 
Futbol30 said:
So I can only assume this means no club soccer, at least not until Spring? Is that a pretty good assumption?
ECNL spring may be a go? At this point, I've already accepted no season as have all my children. Our attitude is go with the flow and train and be ready regardless of the decision for club.
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I can see the governor's order shutting down all youth sports, including club soccer. until the Spring But why would the CIF calendar affect ECNL or Cal South's schedules?

Starting club soccer in the Spring will be especially tricky this year. Different school sports will already be competing for limited fields. Soccer, lacrosse, track, baseball will all play between February and June. Soccer soccer clubs without their own fields will have a hard time booking fields at schools.
 
notintheface said:
IMO the kids will have to choose between club and HS. Otherwise they'll be doing 5+ days of training and games per week-- that's not realistic to maintain and we will see a huge number of injuries. Maybe we'll see some roster expansion at the HS level to accommodate this. (Start teaching your kids about "load management" now, I guess?)

In reading the guidance from the governor's office, the moment a 1000-person high school hits 50 cases within 2 weeks, the school has to close to in-person instruction and can only open 2 weeks later. Presumably that means athletics as well. Do these games wind up getting postponed? Forfeited? Do the kids from the affected high school then wind up having to self-quarantine, and then miss club games?

I mean, good on CIF to provide this guidance-- it's definitely needed.
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HS teams have done 5-6 days a week of practices and games as long as I can remember.
 
It's always wise to have a plan of action but let's not get carried away with too much planning or worrying about club vs HS just yet. We have no idea what is going to happen in the coming months and despite any organization or governing body laying out an 'action plan', it's all just hypothetical for now.

You would hope that coaches and administrators from clubs and high schools will be able to work together sensibly with the absolute priority being the safety and fitness (specifically, avoiding injuries) of athletes. Whether this will actually happen if/when the time comes is another story.

As each day passes, it seems clearer than any type of club soccer season is going to be difficult unless things change/improve fairly quickly. Without sending yet another thread down a political route, my feeling is that nothing is going to change until at least after the election anyway; this whole situation has become way too political for people to sit around a table (or on zoom) and figure out the best solution for young athletes and students.
 
HS games here are Wednesday and Friday. Club league games are on Saturday. State Cup games and makeup games on Sunday. That doesn't leave a lot of time for practices for either HS or club.
 
We will definitely see some teams practicing under the lights. At 5am before the comes up. And at 9pm after the football team is done with practice.
 
espola said:
HS teams have done 5-6 days a week of practices and games as long as I can remember.
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You've got some hardcore coaches. Local HS team here is run by a club coach and does 2 sessions per week plus a game. (I guess it makes sense-- they want to keep these kids from getting injured in the run-up to State Cup)
 
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