Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

Who would be the most likely add in CO, UT, NM or ID?
My guess is that UT and ID are pretty much maxed out. I can't say I've ever heard of any girls clubs in NM. I see 2 boys ECNL clubs in NM. CO Rush '04s had a team in the finals last year. That's a decent club.
 
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8,8,7 in NW works. Or add one in CO to make 8,8,8. Play within group to start the season, then play outside your group once you can match similar level teams.
How would this work in ECNL? (Referring to your last sentence...match similar level teams). I know ECNL does this in showcases but never heard of it in league play. What are you thoughts on how this would look?
 
Why are they "vultures"? If the ECNL clubs closed down would the DA clubs be vultures? Is GOOGLE or Goldman Sachs a vulture for recruiting the best and brightest?
I guess I am thinking of one club in particular. The teams were still in tact, until...The players weren't out looking until the vulture showed up? It doesn't matter, who knows if there will even be a full season ahead. Doubtful.
 
I guess I am thinking of one club in particular. The teams were still in tact, until...The players weren't out looking until the vulture showed up? It doesn't matter, who knows if there will even be a full season ahead. Doubtful.

If the players were happy and felt their current situation was better than any alternatives (distance, cost, coach, teammates, competition, etc.) they would have just swatted away any flirtations.
Happens all the time.

If the players felt the new opportunity would be more likely to help them fulfill their goals or needs (again... distance, cost, coach, teammates, competition, etc.), can't blame them for exploring it.
Also happens all the time.

Welcome to high level youth soccer.
 
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How would this work in ECNL? (Referring to your last sentence...match similar level teams). I know ECNL does this in showcases but never heard of it in league play. What are you thoughts on how this would look?
easier if it is 8 teams in each.

early, play each of the other 7 teams.

Later, the top 2 teams per division play the top 2 in the other divisions. 3 and 4 play 3 and 4 in the other divisions. And so on all the way down.

Gives you an 11 game season, and relatively few long distance mismatches.
 
easier if it is 8 teams in each.

early, play each of the other 7 teams.

Later, the top 2 teams per division play the top 2 in the other divisions. 3 and 4 play 3 and 4 in the other divisions. And so on all the way down.

Gives you an 11 game season, and relatively few long distance mismatches.

You may have some difficulty scheduling fields for those last matches, unless all games are played at one or two dedicated locations all season.
 
You may have some difficulty scheduling fields for those last matches, unless all games are played at one or two dedicated locations all season.
Dedicated locations for the last 4 are enough. The first 7 can be at normal home fields.

The other option is, at the start of the season, you know the dates and the home teams for the last 4 games. You fill in the away teams later. This causes some byes.
 
Dedicated locations for the last 4 are enough. The first 7 can be at normal home fields.

The other option is, at the start of the season, you know the dates and the home teams for the last 4 games. You fill in the away teams later. This causes some byes.

Unless two of those "home teams" end up having to play each other.
 
easier if it is 8 teams in each.

early, play each of the other 7 teams.

Later, the top 2 teams per division play the top 2 in the other divisions. 3 and 4 play 3 and 4 in the other divisions. And so on all the way down.

Gives you an 11 game season, and relatively few long distance mismatches.
You may have some difficulty scheduling fields for those last matches, unless all games are played at one or two dedicated locations all season.

Ok. I could be completed looking at this the wrong way. But Wouldn’t this increase cost for the clubs. Say Your U14 teams is ranked #1 so they are the home team and play in one location. But your U16 team is ranked 4 so it has to go to another location- could be in AZ or NV. So now the clubs have to send teams to two/three/four different locations. And since the coaches can coach multiple teams, it could be a scheduling nightmare. This is the same issue with relegating/promotion by age group not by club.

Or maybe I am missing something. I would love to see relegation /promotion but I think logistics could be hard especially in other divisions where they are so spread out.
 
Ok. I could be completed looking at this the wrong way. But Wouldn’t this increase cost for the clubs. Say Your U14 teams is ranked #1 so they are the home team and play in one location. But your U16 team is ranked 4 so it has to go to another location- could be in AZ or NV. So now the clubs have to send teams to two/three/four different locations. And since the coaches can coach multiple teams, it could be a scheduling nightmare. This is the same issue with relegating/promotion by age group not by club.

Or maybe I am missing something. I would love to see relegation /promotion but I think logistics could be hard especially in other divisions where they are so spread out.

The only travel are the last 4 games. First 7 are within division.

Example for last 4 games,
Weekend 1: Mountain hosts Norcal at Real Colorado. ( Pac NW bye)
Weekend 2: PacNW hosts Mountain at Seattle. ( Norcal bye)
Weekend 3: Norcal hosts Pac NW at San Juan. (Mountain bye)

So, the weekend your U14 are away playing Mountain #1 and #2, your U16 are away playing Mountain #3 and #4.

Grand total of 2 plane flights per team, except for Mountain. Both times, all teams to the same city. The big limit is you need 3 cities that can handle an 80 game weekend, once a year.
 
ok. Got it it. But how does this work if you are the only team in your state....Like the ID and NV teams? You still have to travel to just play within your division.
 
ok. Got it it. But how does this work if you are the only team in your state....Like the ID and NV teams? You still have to travel to just play within your division. And the CA teams would have to travel twice (once to AZ and once to NV for the or
If you want to play ECNL from Boise, you fly.

Nothing I can do about that.


I agree. Thank goodness We don’t live in ID. however, I keep reading that the SW division CA teams don’t want to travel to AZ and NV at all. In your example, they would still have to travel 2 times even before “the last 4 games”.

so how is this different than How the league is set up currently?

And what if AZ hosted the last “4 games” because they are the only place that could handle the 80 teams.... would CA teams be ok traveling 6 times?
 
I agree. Thank goodness We don’t live in ID. however, I keep reading that the SW division CA teams don’t want to travel to AZ and NV at all. In your example, they would still have to travel 2 times even before “the last 4 games”.

so how is this different than How the league is set up currently?

And what if AZ hosted the last “4 games” because they are the only place that could handle the 80 teams.... would CA teams be ok traveling 6 times?

40 games a day is not that big. Smaller than most tournaments. You need about 7 high school fields to do it. Plenty of cities have at least 7 high school fields.

It is different because the travel games would be similar strength opponents. The top team in mountain wouldn't have to fly to play the worst team in norcal. And vice versa.
 
40 games a day is not that big. Smaller than most tournaments. You need about 7 high school fields to do it. Plenty of cities have at least 7 high school fields.

It is different because the travel games would be similar strength opponents. The top team in mountain wouldn't have to fly to play the worst team in norcal. And vice versa.

that would be really hard for college coaches to come watch 80 games at 7 different high schools in one weekend. Why not leave it the way it is and they can come watch the showcase and National Championships at one location. Because in the end, the goal is to get noticed. I think the reason college coaches love ECNL is they make it easy and convenient for them to scout!

Thanks for the debate!!!
 
that would be really hard for college coaches to come watch 80 games at 7 different high schools in one weekend. Why not leave it the way it is and they can come watch the showcase and National Championships at one location. Because in the end, the goal is to get noticed. I think the reason college coaches love ECNL is they make it easy and convenient for them to scout!

Thanks for the debate!!!
I was just trying to think of a way to fix the league schedule. Not really trying to replace showcases.

My kid is too young for ECNL. A lot about the older kids system that I dont get.

Have a good night.
 
Good luck with your
I was just trying to think of a way to fix the league schedule. Not really trying to replace showcases.

My kid is too young for ECNL. A lot about the older kids system that I dont get.

Have a good night.
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I was just trying to think of a way to fix the league schedule. Not really trying to replace showcases.

My kid is too young for ECNL. A lot about the older kids system that I dont get.

Have a good night.
Good luck with your daughter. My daughter is going to be a jr and ECNL has been an amazing experience. She is getting a ton of exposure. Hate to see such a great platform change.

Have a good night.
 
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