Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

[pokergod]

In think the NCAA said they wouldn’t grant the requirement for 16 sports to be reduced across all schools. But I think they said they would review it on a case by case basis.

you are correct. however, the ncaa bball tournie was not insured. so the budgets are already dinged. add in no crowds at football, $20 x 35,000 fans on average. the shoe companies will trigger force majure in the contracts if there is no football...... very sad and scary. for those playing club soccer for scholarships will they stay? better to use that $$$ to learn coding. for those of us doing it for our kids for life experience, what will be left.

NCAA Denies Request to Drop Division I Sport Minimum

The NCAA Division I Council denied a request to temporarily waive the minimum number of sports required to be a Division I member and delayed a decision on allowing all college athletes to be immediately eligible one time after transferring.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Giesbock]

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Bro, read what the GDA program was designed for. Please, dont accuse me of making stuff up. You can't be serious?

MIRELLE VAN RIJBROEK: "High School is not really a discussion for us if you understand the concept of talent development from an international perspective. Soccer is a global sport. In order to stay internationally relevant as a nation we have to do a better job than the rest of the world.

SA: Do you imagine a future in which the girls' pathway to the full national team doesn't include college soccer?

MIRELLE VAN RIJBROEK:

"If you have the dream and ambition to become a professional player and want to become a national team player, the college program and the way it is organized now will not be enough anymore."

I'm driving home a POINT. Their leaders told me HS Soccer was stupid and a complete waste of time. Plus, they said the college game is not good and we need to get the 2% away from both. However, they sold everyone else college. Weird?

Is Ms Rijbroeck still involved with the new GA? If she’s not, it’s not fair to use her as a spokesperson for the GA’s position on HS, College, YNT, etc.

If she is still involved, she seems to be expressing her singular, well informed opinion and not stating the position of the new GA, cause what I’m hearing is that College ID and recruiting continues to be a key objective for the GA clubs just like before.

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say the new GA is for top 2% and that pro or national team is the only focus. On the contrary, they still talk about athletic / life balance and finding a college program that wants you as a player and a school that’s a fit outside of soccer.
I do have to agree with Ms. Rijbroeck that if you watch any high-caliber international academy girls soccer, even the top US college soccer programs (never mind HS soccer!) play a pretty ham fisted style by comparison. Not all but many.

 

[vegasguy]

Actually they do. When I arrived in TJ, Dennis Rodman was playing for the Zonkey’s.

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I bet Las Vegas still has better leagues. By our arguement was there are not adult leagues like Mexico for soccer. True but Mens basketball leagues in US are better no one wins. Plenty of pros playing here too.

 

[Ellejustus]

I

Is Ms Rijbroeck still involved with the new GA? If she’s not, it’s not fair to use her as a spokesperson for the GA’s position on HS, College, YNT, etc.

If she is still involved, she seems to be expressing her singular, well informed opinion and not stating the position of the new GA, cause what I’m hearing is that College ID and recruiting continues to be a key objective for the GA clubs just like before.

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard anyone say the new GA is for top 2% and that pro or national team is the only focus. On the contrary, they still talk about athletic / life balance and finding a college program that wants you as a player and a school that’s a fit outside of soccer.
I do have to agree with Ms. Rijbroeck that if you watch any high-caliber international academy girls soccer, even the top US college soccer programs (never mind HS soccer!) play a pretty ham fisted style by comparison. Not all but many.

I just think the last two and half years sucked and I blame it all on the former GDA.

 

[pokergod]

Yeah, I believe that. If they need to reach in it for some revenue sports, they may. Not sports they don't bring much money to schools.

I think college football will take place in the spring. Many schools can't afford not to bring in college football money. It will cripple so many athletic budgets. They will try for the fall of course but it will happen in the spring worst case.

I agree. I imagine football gets pushed to early 2021. I don't think any school wants to be associated with an outbreak in their locker room. I disagree regarding endowments. Those endowments are normally precluded from giving money to athletics. Schools are going to need to have a Phil Knight around to avoid bankruptcy or to keep programs. UCLA is a power five conference with a major shoe deal and they had a 20 million deficit before the pandemic.

 

[EOTL]

If we have an ethnocentric mentality then we can’t improve. We don’t have a soccer culture here. It’s been said that the definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result.

Yes, repeatedly trying to create a soccer culture here on the men’s side definitely constitutes the definition of insanity. Might also be a bit ethnocentric to keep trying to force someone else’s sport culture onto a country that does not it.

 

[Giesbock]

I just think the last two and half years sucked and I blame it all on the former GDA.

Fair enough... in these times I can only look forward to something positive. For my kid, that’s the new GA.

Is June 15 still a date when college coaches can reach out to 2022 graduates? Or has that date be

 

[Ellejustus]

Fair enough... in these times I can only look forward to something positive. For my kid, that’s the new GA.

Is June 15 still a date when college coaches can reach out to 2022 graduates? Or has that date be

Can you now share the name of the new GA team? I forget. June 15th is still on from what I hear. You looking to make a deal then or wait?

 

[Giesbock]

We’re Southern California. ...June 15 is just a date... we’re gonna bide our time. But naturally interested who (if anyone) calls!

 

[MacDre]

I bet Las Vegas still has better leagues. By our arguement was there are not adult leagues like Mexico for soccer. True but Mens basketball leagues in US are better no one wins. Plenty of pros playing here too.

Yeah, but even the commissioner of the MLS thinks soccer in Mexico is better.

 

[Ellejustus]

We’re Southern California. ...June 15 is just a date... we’re gonna bide our time. But naturally interested who (if anyone) calls!

Good luck with that and I hope the dream school calls. My student has decided not to reach out or send a video at this ((soon though)). Way too early for her. She wants to go visit the school and walk around. Meet the coaching staff and hopefully check out a game or two during Jr year and then make a decision at school during Sr signing day. Plus, she might just go pro instead and skip college.......lol!!!!

 

[vegasguy]

Yeah, but even the commissioner of the MLS thinks soccer in Mexico is better.

Not the arguement.

But ok. Funny that Liga MX is going to bon pro rel and discussing build a league with MLS.
Also the Mex National Team is really starting to like playing in MLS.

 

[MacDre]

Yes, repeatedly trying to create a soccer culture here on the men’s side definitely constitutes the definition of insanity. Might also be a bit ethnocentric to keep trying to force someone else’s sport culture onto a country that does not it.

So your speaking for the entire country? I am not forcing anything, I’m sharing my experience. Several people have PM’d me encouraging me to continue sharing my unique experience. Have the people called upon you to be here EOTL? Game recognizes Game EOTL. Only a lame can’t recognize game when in it’s in their face.

 

[JuliVeee]

we have a meeting in a few days. Will found out which league to play. My DD's team was going to play ECRL, looks like it is going to change. I would think club wanted to do well in ECRL to be better positioned for next years ECNL, but never know.

If you don't mind me asking, which club is your dd with?

 

[MacDre]

Not the arguement.

But ok. Funny that Liga MX is going to bon pro rel and discussing build a league with MLS.
Also the Mex National Team is really starting to like playing in MLS.

The US has the money and Mexico has the soccer. Both united is better for all. The USA is a great country-hell I’m a Marine Corps vet. However, I can admit that Mexico has a better soccer culture than us and if the MLS recognizes it maybe you should too.

 

[EOTL]

So your speaking for the entire country? I am not forcing anything, I’m sharing my experience. Several people have PM’d me encouraging me to continue sharing my unique experience. Have the people called upon you to be here EOTL? Game recognizes Game EOTL. Only a lame can’t recognize game when in it’s in their face.

Just most of it. Were you speaking about the whole country when you said “we” have an ethnocentric perspective and “we” don’t have a soccer culture here? As soon as you switch all your vernacular from “we this” and “we that” to the more realistic “I feel like”, I’ll stop stereotyping too.

Congratulations on your PM followers. It must be fulfilling to know you have such a groundswell of support for your mission to change “our” soccer culture.

 

[MacDre]

Just most of it. Were you speaking about the whole country when you said “we” have an ethnocentric perspective and “we” don’t have a soccer culture here? As soon as you switch all your vernacular from “we this” and “we that” to the more realistic “I feel like”, I’ll stop stereotyping too.

Congratulations on your PM followers. It must be fulfilling to know you have such a groundswell of support for your mission to change “our” soccer culture.

Seriously? I could care less. Keep doing what you’re doing. I sincerely hope it works out.

 

[Ellejustus]

I feel a rush of words unlike any other time. I woke up with a pen in my hand and I was tripping out. It was so odd to say the least. I'm just giving everybody a heads up. Watch out what you say to me today. I've been trying to stay classy, I promise. If you have told me to "STFU" or "please go away" I would just keep that comment to yourself today or you will 100% trigger me

 

[vegasguy]

The US has the money and Mexico has the soccer. Both united is better for all. The USA is a great country-hell I’m a Marine Corps vet. However, I can admit that Mexico has a better soccer culture than us and if the MLS recognizes it maybe you should too.

First. I never said Mexico did not have a better soccer culture. They do by far. Just as we have a better basketball and baseball culture than they do. I recognize it. My point being they want their league now more like the MLS and removing pro : rel is their first step to building the bridge. They see Canada being successful in our league and want in on it. Our TV rights have greater dollar signs. Mexico as a soccer league is very closed meaning for Mexicans only for the most part. Owners band together to keep players out from other countries unless there is Mexican decent. You see players from time to time go there but not like here.

 

[El Clasico]

This reminds me of the saying know your audience when you walk into a room!

I bet if they let kids play HS for 2 years and then eased into no HS, they may still be around. The was their biggest mistake in the girls DA and everyone knew it.

Hey US soccer, keep hiring all these foreigners. Eventually someone has to work out, right?!?

I find it incredible that people still don't understand how things work. DA didn't fail because they didn't let the girls play H.S. Soccer. They failed, to a large degree, because they have done a piss poor job of developing their money maker which is the USMNT. I know all of you on the "pay the women more" bandwagon hate to hear it but now you can see it unfolding in front of your eyes and you still refuse to accept it. The women recently won the world cup and did that fill up the coffers of US Soccer? No, and it likely never will. The Corona virus was just the straw (yes, a big straw) that broke the camels back but the fall was inevitable anyway. They didn't fail because of no H.S. Soccer. That doesn't even make sense. Hopefully, going forward, they separate the men from the women so that, yes, the women can see what they bring in and get paid what they deserve based on that and if the men stink of the field, then they take a hit. I think if they were separate already, the women side would be fine but they wouldn't be getting paid what they think they should be getting paid and on the men's side, being broke would finally force US Soccer to make drastic changes to their identification and selection process. Get rid of politics and select the best man or woman to wear the patch.

 

[El Clasico]

There will be scholarships. It's possible some schools won't have as many but money won't disappear. Many universities a very rich with large endowments. At least the next year, travel costs should be down so that will save parents money.

You are confused. Endowment money and athletic money are generally not interchangeable.