Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next

davin said:
LOL. You’re the one who brought that team up as the reason why you think the league qualities are similar. My only point about was that this particular team struggles in the other league but has done well in NPL, which indicates that the league they’ve struggled in has more quality. I personally don’t really care about that particular team’s results, since my dd plays in an older age group in the same club. And if you’re correct that they got their wins against the worst teams in the NPL league, it doesn’t explain why 5 of the 6 top Teams are from ECNL, and that’s without the top ECNL team from that age group is playing a year up in the champions league.
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I did bring it up. I've seen all those teams, including MVLA, and they don't separate themselves. You don't care about team results, which is evident since you didn't bother to see who is playing who, but you note the top 5 of 6 are ECNL. LOL! Okay... on any given day, the top 5 NPL teams can beat the top 5 top ECNL teams. Rage, San Juan, MVLA, Davis, whatever. 4 of 7 wins for SJ were the bottom teams. 3 of Rage's 6 wins were bottom 3 teams. Hell, Rage was beaten 6-0 by Odyssey. Must have been a ton of injuries that day! Mustang is pretty good, after inheriting half a team in a year, and San Juan is pretty good. Everyone else is equal.
 
UOP said:
NPL is a good league but if GDA or ECNL played to win I don't think the games would be that close. Both use the NPL as a developmental league.
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Then I need to go back and ask what they were developing when losing 6-0 to an NPL team. Maybe the ability to rebound for the next game?
 
The Outlaw said:
Then I need to go back and ask what they were developing when losing 6-0 to an NPL team. Maybe the ability to rebound for the next game?
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They may have been developing their bench. Teams also need to give their starters a time off for recovery so they don’t get hurt.

Or, the NPL team played an awesome game and good for them. I don’t see any reason to read too much into it.
 
dad4 said:
They may have been developing their bench. Teams also need to give their starters a time off for recovery so they don’t get hurt.

Or, the NPL team played an awesome game and good for them. I don’t see any reason to read too much into it.
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dad4 is right. Some ECNL/GDA Rosters are 20+ and don't even roster their top players for NPL matches. They play twice as many matches as NPL only teams since they play two leagues and use NPL to get the end of the bench playing time.
 
Cibo said:
dad4 is right. Some ECNL/GDA Rosters are 20+ and don't even roster their top players for NPL matches. They play twice as many matches as NPL only teams since they play two leagues and use NPL to get the end of the bench playing time.
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I could believe that if I didn't know the teams and see who they play... but I digress.
 
The Outlaw said:
Then I need to go back and ask what they were developing when losing 6-0 to an NPL team. Maybe the ability to rebound for the next game?
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There are lots of things to learn in a 6-0 loss for both players and coaches. Like many have said these "ECNL" labeled teams are probably a combination of bench top teamers with 2nd teamers. So girls that don't get as much playing time and not together. Probably learn more about the mental makeup of the girls than the skill. Not all NPL teams are bottom feeders, some are just smaller clubs that can't get to ECNL. For a large part though if a top ECNL team brought the full A team against a regular NPL team the games wouldn't be all that fun to watch on a regular basis
 
ECNL added four more clubs to the SW conference today. I believe that makes a total of six additional to that division (SD Surf, Real, Beach, Legends, WC and Pateadores). I think that's a good thing. Outside of the sheer size and accomplishments of those clubs, are there other reasons why so many clubs were added with relative ease?. I know little of the So Cal scene and was curious as to why/how those clubs were quickly brought into the umbrella but nothing thus far here in Nor Cal. Thoughts?
 
Free Kick said:
ECNL added four more clubs to the SW conference today. I believe that makes a total of six additional to that division (SD Surf, Real, Beach, Legends, WC and Pateadores). I think that's a good thing. Outside of the sheer size and accomplishments of those clubs, are there other reasons why so many clubs were added with relative ease?. I know little of the So Cal scene and was curious as to why/how those clubs were quickly brought into the umbrella but nothing thus far here in Nor Cal. Thoughts?
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The four clubs in the press release today(Legends, Beach, WC, and Pats) were not added to ECNL. They were added to the ECNL Regional League(ECRL), which is where ECNL clubs place their 2nd teams. These four new clubs will be playing against ECNL clubs' second teams next year. Not sure what the plan is for NorCal, or if ECRL is even an option for the ex GDA teams here.
 
Free Kick said:
ECNL added four more clubs to the SW conference today. I believe that makes a total of six additional to that division (SD Surf, Real, Beach, Legends, WC and Pateadores). I think that's a good thing. Outside of the sheer size and accomplishments of those clubs, are there other reasons why so many clubs were added with relative ease?. I know little of the So Cal scene and was curious as to why/how those clubs were quickly brought into the umbrella but nothing thus far here in Nor Cal. Thoughts?
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This was to the regional league. Not main ECNL league. So ECNL's 2nd division basically.
 
wc_baller said:
The four clubs in the press release today(Legends, Beach, WC, and Pats) were not added to ECNL. They were added to the ECNL Regional League(ECRL), which is where ECNL clubs place their 2nd teams. These four new clubs will be playing against ECNL clubs' second teams next year. Not sure what the plan is for NorCal, or if ECRL is even an option for the ex GDA teams here.
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Got it! Thanks for clarifying!
 
Free Kick said:
Got it! Thanks for clarifying!
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Seems like all the DA clubs are weighing options or seeing what is available to them at this point -- Wonder what the likely hood is they are talking to one another and what all the options are at this point with what clubs in each:
ECNL
ECRL
NPL
GAL
MLS
Whatever else is out there
 
youthsportsugh said:
Seems like all the DA clubs are weighing options or seeing what is available to them at this point -- Wonder what the likely hood is they are talking to one another and what all the options are at this point with what clubs in each:
ECNL
ECRL
NPL
GAL
MLS
Whatever else is out there
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They are all taking to each other regularly. They are waiting for ECNL decisions and will decide between ECNL, GAL and NPL. MLS is not offering a girls league this coming season.
 
GAL announced conferences yesterday(?) with nothing in the NW. They look to have about 8-10 teams per conference...seems like the odds of adding the NW is small with the number of ex-DA teams located in the area (unless they add some random nocal clubs or ECNL B teams). I have a difficult time visualizing any path to success for that league.
 
dad4 said:
Does GAL have a decent offer for norcal?

Hope y'all join us in NPL however it works out with GAL/ECNL.
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I don’t know the details. I think all the previous DA clubs would need to go in together. Even if they did, it means an awful lot of travel and still no cross play with closer ECNL teams. Not my favorite option but we’ll just have to see how things settle out.
 
offtopic said:
GAL announced conferences yesterday(?) with nothing in the NW. They look to have about 8-10 teams per conference...seems like the odds of adding the NW is small with the number of ex-DA teams located in the area (unless they add some random nocal clubs or ECNL B teams). I have a difficult time visualizing any path to success for that league.
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That's why I was surprised they didn't offer SW to the norcal teams. Larger is more viable.

I think GA will do ok. The ultimate goal is probably to get a merger with ECNL or create something with USYS. I can see either one happening.

As long as good games get scheduled, it's good.
 
dad4 said:
That's why I was surprised they didn't offer SW to the norcal teams. Larger is more viable.

I think GA will do ok. The ultimate goal is probably to get a merger with ECNL or create something with USYS. I can see either one happening.

As long as good games get scheduled, it's good.
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Don’t think GA conference roll out is done. NW could end up being just the current GDA nw and a couple more if no one else ends up in ECNL. Ideally would find another team or two in WA or Ore and Utah for travel as flying to or from Seattle or SLC from one game is rough.
 
Soccerfan2 said:
I don’t know the details. I think all the previous DA clubs would need to go in together. Even if they did, it means an awful lot of travel and still no cross play with closer ECNL teams. Not my favorite option but we’ll just have to see how things settle out.
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The biggest question mark is Earthquakes. The club has not yet committed to supporting a girls program for the next soccer year. Without them leading the charge on any new league, most likely no new league would take a foothold in Northern California. There are also a lot of rumors about where the director will end up. Only time will tell. I see Thorns playing NPL for the near future, and Lamorinda will most likely be like PSV, a small club that competes well in NPL and State Cup in the youngers. Placer is the most likely club to join ECNL, this year or next. Fingers crossed for good, local competition in the next couple years.
 
Anon9 said:
The biggest question mark is Earthquakes. The club has not yet committed to supporting a girls program for the next soccer year. Without them leading the charge on any new league, most likely no new league would take a foothold in Northern California. There are also a lot of rumors about where the director will end up. Only time will tell. I see Thorns playing NPL for the near future, and Lamorinda will most likely be like PSV, a small club that competes well in NPL and State Cup in the youngers. Placer is the most likely club to join ECNL, this year or next. Fingers crossed for good, local competition in the next couple years.
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Isn't the Louisville club that just got ECNL a "new" club with roots in a disbanded club? I could see something like that happening if they wanted to get the Quakes teams over with Deza and the Quakes themselves were no longer willing to support the girls side.

Currently, ECNL NW has 19 teams. Below is each metro area with its population in millions and the number of teams. Based on population alone, Seattle appears to be overrepresented by a team and SF definitely low by at least one team. Further, in terms of where the 5 teams are located in the SF metro area, only one is on the Peninsula (I'll define that as from SF to San Jose inclusive) with a population of about 3.5 million. They could definitely use another team somewhere between SF and San Jose. We'll see.

Boise ID: 0.7 (1)
SLC UT: 1.2 (1)
Portland OR: 2.5, (2)
Sacramento CA: 2.7 (2)
Denver CO: 2.8 (3)
Seattle WA: 3.5 (5)
SF CA: 7.7 (5)
 
SJ is big. 2 million people in SCC, and MVLA is way over at one end. Probably room for one club north peninsula and one club east san jose.
 
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