Nor Cal GDA Teams - What's Next

[MacDre]

Have you tried Mustang? I don't believe that will be the case there. Also, I hear Deza is open to recruiting girls from long distances - but that's just a rumor ;-).

Pat Uriz of Mustang is the first coach I talked to but I have never seen any of his teams play. I don’t know if it’s true but I heard Mustang wouldn’t be a good fit for a small technical player like Rose Lavelle. I hear they are very direct and physical.
I talked to Deza and observed his ‘06 team but decided against it because of the commute and I liked the parents and did not want to interfere with team chemistry.
I was looking for a team for my kid at the time because Liga MX Femenil did not allow foreign players. Now that Xolo’s have moved my kid up to the U15 squad either Liga MX will drop their prohibition on foreign players or give her Mexican citizenship. She is British too so her second option is playing in the Women’s Super League while attending Oxford or Cambrige. She also has an agent and is registered with a Mexican club so I don’t think club soccer is an option anymore.

 

[Soccerfan2]

Pat Uriz of Mustang is the first coach I talked to but I have never seen any of his teams play. I don’t know if it’s true but I heard Mustang wouldn’t be a good fit for a small technical player like Rose Lavelle. I hear they are very direct and physical.
I talked to Deza and observed his ‘06 team but decided against it because of the commute and I liked the parents and did not want to interfere with team chemistry.
I was looking for a team for my kid at the time because Liga MX Femenil did not allow foreign players. Now that Xolo’s have moved my kid up to the U15 squad either Liga MX will drop their prohibition on foreign players or give her Mexican citizenship. She is British too so her second option is playing in the Women’s Super League while attending Oxford or Cambrige. She also has an agent and is registered with a Mexican club so I don’t think club soccer is an option anymore.

I think you got some bad advice on Mustang.

 

[davin]

No doubt but consider this... not everyone has played the same teams and some of the NPL teams really should not be NPL teams. I'm not sure why they were admitted. I'm going more on experience with watching these players and teams over the years. Girls are still jumping to ENCL as they get older but, as a whole, I don't think the gap is that large. For example, I've watched the MVLA U15 team for years. That's not a dominant team like the U16 girls are but they're in 1st place.

Champions League is the top division of NPL. The fact that this MVLA U15 team is in first place in the top NPL division should tell you something. They’re in second to last place in the ECNL league standings and have been playing short handed all year because of major injuries and struggling because if it. If they’re in first place in the Champions League, the gap is very wide between NPL and ECNL.

 

[davin]

I'm not sure what part doesn't make sense. My point is that if ex DA clubs return to NPL with in tact teams you will see some cases where those teams beat the ECNL teams in their NPL league.
First and second tier are ECNL and DA in no particular order because it depends on the age group and team. Some ECNL teams are stronger, some DA teams are stronger. And there are a few NPL only exceptions that do challenge both.

You said “That's because so many kids were either in DA or ECNL the last couple years”. ECNL teams already play in NPL, so that makes no sense.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

Champions League is the top division of NPL. The fact that this MVLA U15 team is in first place in the top NPL division should tell you something. They’re in second to last place in the ECNL league standings and have been playing short handed all year because of major injuries and struggling because if it. If they’re in first place in the Champions League, the gap is very wide between NPL and ECNL.

Their record in NPL this year is 8-1-2. Did you look at which NPL teams they have results against? They're beating the worst teams. You totally ignored my point. Until everyone plays everyone, your record really isn't that relevant. "Champions League is the top division of NPL." Yes, it is, and you see a team like Cougars has condeded 45 goals and scored none. Please...

And every team has injuries... that's a bullshit excuse.

 

[Soccerfan2]

Champions League is the top division of NPL. The fact that this MVLA U15 team is in first place in the top NPL division should tell you something. They’re in second to last place in the ECNL league standings and have been playing short handed all year because of major injuries and struggling because if it. If they’re in first place in the Champions League, the gap is very wide between NPL and ECNL.

Standings are tricky indicator when only part of a season has been played. U15 MVLA is ahead of San Juan in NPL but behind them in ECNL. There are a whole bunch of ECNL teams in NorCal that aren't very different from each other.

 

[kickingandscreaming]

Pat Uriz of Mustang is the first coach I talked to but I have never seen any of his teams play. I don’t know if it’s true but I heard Mustang wouldn’t be a good fit for a small technical player like Rose Lavelle. I hear they are very direct and physical.
I talked to Deza and observed his ‘06 team but decided against it because of the commute and I liked the parents and did not want to interfere with team chemistry.
I was looking for a team for my kid at the time because Liga MX Femenil did not allow foreign players. Now that Xolo’s have moved my kid up to the U15 squad either Liga MX will drop their prohibition on foreign players or give her Mexican citizenship. She is British too so her second option is playing in the Women’s Super League while attending Oxford or Cambrige. She also has an agent and is registered with a Mexican club so I don’t think club soccer is an option anymore.

Nice. Your girl is on a good path. How many kids can say Oxford or Cambridge is backup plan? I enjoy your contributions to the board. Keep them coming.

 

[Soccerfan2]

You said “That's because so many kids were either in DA or ECNL the last couple years”. ECNL teams already play in NPL, so that makes no sense.

The DA teams didn't. With a bunch of players in DA, of course NPL is much weaker. If DA teams go back to NPL, ECNL teams might not be so dominant anymore.

 

[MacDre]

Magic has a pretty nice little club up in that area

Magic offered her fully funded after she did a session with one of their coaches and I believe his name is Michael. She was too young and I thought the GDA patch was a necessity for any serious player at the time.

Hi, my name is Mac and I love Kool Aid!

 

[davin]

Their record in NPL this year is 8-1-2. Did you look at which NPL teams they have results against? They're beating the worst teams. You totally ignored my point. Until everyone plays everyone, your record really isn't that relevant.

And every team has injuries... that's a bullshit excuse.

The NPL has promotion/relegation. First/second place in lower division get promoted up. Keep getting promoted and you end up in the top division. The top division is champions league, so those are NPL’s best teams. They’re beating up on the best teams in the NPL while struggling in ECNL. Gap is wide.

 

[youthsportsugh]

Magic offered her fully funded after she did a session with one of their coaches and I believe his name is Michael. She was too young and I thought the GDA patch was a necessity for any serious player at the time.

Hi, my name is Mac and I love Kool Aid!

I pay attention, but not close enough -- the girl is the driving force - have done small club bottom team, top team, medium club, ODP, big club, DA. Someone talks to girl, girl say hey, I say hey and off we go. Luckily we live where there are pretty much limitless choices/opportunities as far as girls soccer. At least that was the case until a couple of months ago, hopefully even the smaller clubs can survive this. For girl it is alot about who she is playing then level of competition, luckily both have coincided with advancing her level and skill.

 

[MacDre]

I think you got some bad advice on Mustang.

That’s good to know. Even though my kid has never played for Mustang I feel like Pat Uriz has contributed to her development. He’s always been accessible and answered many of my questions. And I like to ask tough questions that make many uncomfortable. If my kid makes it Pat Uriz, and McGuire and Risenhoover at Cal can all truthfully say that they’ve substantially contributed to her development.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

The NPL has promotion/relegation. First/second place in lower division get promoted up. Keep getting promoted and you end up in the top division. The top division is champions league, so those are NPL’s best teams. They’re beating up on the best teams in the NPL while struggling in ECNL. Gap is wide.

LMAO! No they are not. Of their 8 wins, 6 are against the bottom 6 teams. You're delusional.

 

[davin]

LMAO! No they are not. Of their 8 wins, 6 are against the bottom 6 teams. You're delusional.

LOL. 5 out of the top 6 teams for that age group in the Champions League are ECNL teams. It’s like that for every age group in the Champions League every year, and that’s with the ECNL coaches using this league as tune ups for the other league, but keep on thinking that there is a very small difference between leagues.

 

[Soccerfan2]

5 out of the top 6 teams for that age group in the Champions League are ECNL teams. It’s like that for every age group in the Champions League every year, but keep on thinking that there is a very small difference between leagues.

A more useful statement is that there is a big gap between the top and the bottom of NPL champions league. Don't you think that's because DA left a vacuum that allowed teams that would not otherwise be in champions league to qualify in their absence? Of course ECNL teams are stronger than small club NPL teams and DA club B teams.
Let's hope the changing landscape remedies this gap so that ECNL teams can get better competition in NPL, which is a good portion of their games for the season.

 

[davin]

A more useful statement is that there is a big gap between the top and the bottom of NPL champions league. Don't you think that's because DA left a vacuum that allowed teams that would not otherwise be in champions league to qualify in their absence? Of course ECNL teams are stronger than small club NPL teams and DA club B teams.
Let's hope the changing landscape remedies this gap so that ECNL teams can get better competition in NPL, which is a good portion of their games for the season.

Not sure what this conversation has to do with GDA. I know you’re a GDA homer but whether or not GDA teams are in the league is irrelevant to the gap between the leagues we’re discussing.

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

LOL. 5 out of the top 6 teams for that age group in the Champions League are ECNL teams. It’s like that for every age group in the Champions League every year, and that’s with the ECNL coaches using this league as tune ups for the other league, but keep on thinking that there is a very small difference between leagues.

You keep missing the point. Not every body played everybody, so it doesn't matter who is on top. Your team is on top but 6 of their 8 wins are against the 6 worst teams. You haven't played the best teams yet! My player is in that NPL group. You keep on thinking 6 of 8 wins against the 6 worst teams is bragging rights.

 

[davin]

You keep missing the point. Not every body played everybody, so it doesn't matter who is on top. Your team is on top but 6 of their 8 wins are against the 6 worst teams. You haven't played the best teams yet! My player is in that NPL group. You keep on thinking 6 of 8 wins against the 6 worst teams is bragging rights.

The top two non-ECNL teams in the current standings in that division are 0-3 against ECNL teams. Who do you think are best teams and what are their records against the ECNL teams in the division?

 

[The Outlaw *BANNED*]

The top two non-ECNL teams in the current standings in that division are 0-3 against ECNL teams. Who do you think are best teams and what are their records against the ECNL teams in the division?

Doesn't matter what I think. When 6 of your 8 wins are against the worst 6 teams, you learn that doing your homework is a good idea. Especially when you're 'battling a ton of injuries" and "working on development opportunities by beating up on the WORST teams in NPL."

 

[soccer4us]

Doesn't matter what I think. When 6 of your 8 wins are against the worst 6 teams, you learn that doing your homework is a good idea. Especially when you're 'battling a ton of injuries" and "working on development opportunities by beating up on the WORST teams in NPL."

Have to agree. Until you play everyone, it's hard to claim one team is really at the top.

Most ECNL teams use NPL as getting their bench playing time and working on certain aspects of the game. If they are playing a local team and want some players, they may plays starters longer. The bottom half clubs, and top end NPL non ECNL in some ages are pretty close and sometimes NPL team better. IMO it's pointless to judge any results vs a ECNL team even if that team is near top of standings. You're not getting the same game as you would get ecnl vs ecnl team in league.

 

[davin]

Doesn't matter what I think. When 6 of your 8 wins are against the worst 6 teams, you learn that doing your homework is a good idea. Especially when you're 'battling a ton of injuries" and "working on development opportunities by beating up on the WORST teams in NPL."

LOL. You’re the one who brought that team up as the reason why you think the league qualities are similar. My only point about was that this particular team struggles in the other league but has done well in NPL, which indicates that the league they’ve struggled in has more quality. I personally don’t really care about that particular team’s results, since my dd plays in an older age group in the same club. And if you’re correct that they got their wins against the worst teams in the NPL league, it doesn’t explain why 5 of the 6 top Teams are from ECNL, and that’s without the top ECNL team from that age group is playing a year up in the champions league.