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The Outlaw said:
I don't know anything about Trump's finances and don't pretend or care to. I do know his detractors cry about how he doesn't pay contractors, etc. Guess what... I've refused to pay contractors, too, if the work is shitty or they try to hit me for overages or upcharges because they underbid the job to begin with. Many contractors are whores... so it doesn't surprise me a bit that some don't get paid or wind up in litigation.
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Trump has declared bankruptcy 6 times which is all a part of the public record. But you “don’t know anything or care anything” about that. Ok, so why make sweeping judgements about everyone else who you know even less about?

Your OWN words were: “They give money to people who can pay it back with interest. Why would you give it to people who are unable to do that? This isn't charity.”

When I point out that Trump himself has stiffed his creditors 6x you say you don’t care. So you’re a hypocrite, plain and simple.
 
Sheriff Joe said:
Almost as bad as Obama off prompter.
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LOL, sure. Sort of like the time Obama went to the GOP retreat and answered their questions for 90 minutes. Obama ate their lunch. In fact Obama made them look so bad that FOX news cut away early and the GOP admitted it was a mistake to broadcast it.

One of my favorite exchanges:
 
Imtired said:
LOL, sure. Sort of like the time Obama went to the GOP retreat and answered their questions for 90 minutes. Obama ate their lunch. In fact Obama made them look so bad that FOX news cut away early and the GOP admitted it was a mistake to broadcast it.

One of my favorite exchanges:
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OMG could you imagine an Obama Trump election?
 
Imtired said:
Trump has declared bankruptcy 6 times which is all a part of the public record. But you “don’t know anything or care anything” about that. Ok, so why make sweeping judgements about everyone else who you know even less about?

Your OWN words were: “They give money to people who can pay it back with interest. Why would you give it to people who are unable to do that? This isn't charity.”

When I point out that Trump himself has stiffed his creditors 6x you say you don’t care. So you’re a hypocrite, plain and simple.
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Okay, and what's your point? That someone in business for nearly 5 decades, and multiple businesses, has bankruptcies? So what? And who else am I making "sweeping judgments" about? You asked why banks give or don't give people money. That's their option, is it not? Should THEY not have the ability to decide whether he is or isn't a risk and at what terms? That's not your bitch to have. Their choice to consider him a good risk doesn't make me a hypocrite. And unless you have nothing better to do, and I know you don't, the rest of us don't know all the intricacies of his BKs. How many times do Silicon Valley giants lose everything... only to receive more VC and eventually become billionaires? Stop your whining.
 
The Outlaw said:
Why do you assume everyone is asking for help and/or bailouts? I received money last week and never asked for it. I earn 6 figures and never thought I was eligible for it. Nor do I want or need it, MAP, but it showed up anyway. So you're assuming 'corporate welfare' is needed or desired.

What corporate greed are you talking about? You tell me who can't go a month without a check. I'm not one of them but they're all over, aren't they?
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Let's see. Most of these corporations can't go a month without revenue. Most of these business owners who have to lay off workers clearly can't go without a check. You talk about having a check show up. That's really funny because my wife and I get jack shit. She actually employs people who she pays six figures to and they still get their checks regardless of what is going on. Businesses that don't have the cash to survive shouldn't. Businesses like Ruth's Chris and Shake Shack that applied for corporate welfare even though they have cash and access to credit should be ashamed especially when Shake Shack already was in trouble and laid workers off before any bailout deal was reached. But I digress.

You are a person that clearly shows personal responsibility. So am I. Lot's of corporations don't take responsiblity and that includes the banks, the airlines, restaurants and more. You are too smart to continue to ignore what is going on. We just printed $3 trilion.... We are well into a recession that was predicted years ago when Trump took office and it just arrived a few quarters early due to his steady and consistent mismanagement of the economy. Let's hope that the economic contagion doesn't continue to spread because white collar layoffs are already happening.

Good luck to you and your player.
 
The Outlaw said:
I don't handle Trump's finances but I know he employs a lot of people.
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www.businessinsider.com

The Trump Organization laid off 1,500 people after it closed over a dozen properties due to the novel coronavirus pandemic

The layoffs have occurred at Trump's New York, D.C., Miami, Chicago, Las Vegas, Vancouver, and Honolulu properties, according to The Washington Post.
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He employs at least 1500 less now. Again my wife hasn't furloughed or laid off one employee and their checks are still good. It's even a minority owned business. But my wife has an MBA in finance. Trump got C's at a school his pops helped get him into.
 
The Outlaw said:
Okay, and what's your point? That someone in business for nearly 5 decades, and multiple businesses, has bankruptcies? So what? And who else am I making "sweeping judgments" about? You asked why banks give or don't give people money. That's their option, is it not? Should THEY not have the ability to decide whether he is or isn't a risk and at what terms? That's not your bitch to have. Their choice to consider him a good risk doesn't make me a hypocrite. And unless you have nothing better to do, and I know you don't, the rest of us don't know all the intricacies of his BKs. How many times do Silicon Valley giants lose everything... only to receive more VC and eventually become billionaires? Stop your whining.
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And now you are saying bankruptcies are okay? Everyone doesn't file for bankruptcy. I haven't. Have you? Not everyone has had a foreclosure or a forebearance either. Not everyone skipped their mortgage or car payments. I bet Trump did.....
 
MakeAPlay said:
Let's see. Most of these corporations can't go a month without revenue. Most of these business owners who have to lay off workers clearly can't go without a check. You talk about having a check show up. That's really funny because my wife and I get jack shit. She actually employs people who she pays six figures to and they still get their checks regardless of what is going on. Businesses that don't have the cash to survive shouldn't. Businesses like Ruth's Chris and Shake Shack that applied for corporate welfare even though they have cash and access to credit should be ashamed especially when Shake Shack already was in trouble and laid workers off before any bailout deal was reached. But I digress.

You are a person that clearly shows personal responsibility. So am I. Lot's of corporations don't take responsiblity and that includes the banks, the airlines, restaurants and more. You are too smart to continue to ignore what is going on. We just printed $3 trilion.... We are well into a recession that was predicted years ago when Trump took office and it just arrived a few quarters early due to his steady and consistent mismanagement of the economy. Let's hope that the economic contagion doesn't continue to spread because white collar layoffs are already happening.

Good luck to you and your player.
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But how can you say "most" when you don't know that? That's like someone saying "most people I know hate Trump." Well, unless your ass has personally asked over 150 million people, you don't speak for "most".

I don't know why I got a check... other than having children I claim. Like I said, I wasn't expecting it, didn't ask for it and don't need it. I also don't know why Harvard received $8M and the Kennedy Center got money... other than it's Pelosi's favorite hangout. Businesses like Ruth's and Shake Shack applied because they didn't know the rules, prepared for the worst like everyone else and have no idea when this ends. And Shake Shack gave it back. You can't blame them for not knowing your wife's business got blackballed. Have you seen all the special interest money that our politicians, both sides, gave to their personal and political agendas? I agree that corporations should get kicked in the balls for some of the decisions they've made. I don't, however, agree that this recession was predictable years ago. This economy was at an all time high and so was employment. I'm not saying Trump deserves the credit, but I don't think anyone knew this was coming. You're right... we're printing money we don't have, but the liberals are wanting to print even more and Trump is trying to make cuts. So he can't win, can he? Make cuts... get blamed for not have a billion masks available. Spend money, get blamed for the deficit. The economy was rolling... there was nothing Trump did to "mismanage" it... that's not true. I get that he's a bull in a china shop... but we needed that. Don't tell me Hillary was anything more than a "same old bullshit" politician looking to rack up the book deals and fix that family's shit legacy.

By the way, if I didn't already, congrats on your kid getting drafted. Hopefully they get back on the field soon because I'm getting tired of watching PAC12 reruns of last season.
 
MakeAPlay said:
And now you are saying bankruptcies are okay? Everyone doesn't file for bankruptcy. I haven't. Have you? Not everyone has had a foreclosure or a forebearance either. Not everyone skipped their mortgage or car payments. I bet Trump did.....
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No, I didn't say they were okay, but if you're in the casino business and the economy tanks, all casinos take it in the ass like he did. How come you guys don't list everyone else in Atlantic City that crash and burned? Because you hate Trump, that's why.
 
The Outlaw said:
If you don't have enough money to shop at Wal Mart, you have bigger problems than tax breaks. I'm saying Wal Mart sticks their neck out by opening stores everywhere and making everyday goods cheaper than what others charge for those same goods. They can do that because of buying power due to a high volume of product... due to a high volume of stores. Or, they offer cheaper alternatives so a guy can buy bathroom rugs for $6 because he can't pay $10 at Bed, Bath & Beyond. Do you honestly think giving the masses more money will somehow prevent them from living paycheck to paycheck? Really?

Your idea is NOT to make the masses wealthier. Your idea to take money from the wealthy and give more to the masses in an assumption that the economy will prosper. In reality, there would be fewer doctors now... fewer venture capitalists investing money in things that offer a lesser return... fewer people investing in advanced education knowing there is no salary commensurate with the investment. What is the incentive to be the best if we're all more equal due to your constraints? You prefer socialism. Where does that work? Where has it ever worked? If Henry Ford cornered the market, why are there so many other car companies equally as strong or stronger?
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Socialism, you keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Giving tax breaks to the rich is not socialism, but giving tax breaks to the middle class is. Um, okaaaaay.

”If Henry Ford cornered the market, why are there so many other car companies equally as strong or stronger?” Lol, what??? Henry Ford built his Model-T back in 1908. And he did corner the market back then. You’re seriously trying to make the point that since Ford and his Model-T aren’t still the leaders in the auto industry that negates the point my point?
 
The Outlaw said:
The democrats ensured his re-elected my offering the American voter a fake Native American, gay mayor that can't run a small city, a socialist and another lifelong politician that can't remember what year it is. Trump doesn't have to do anything to get a 2nd term.
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Cool, then you can stop being so hysterical about mythical illegals voting.
 
The Outlaw said:
No, I didn't say they were okay, but if you're in the casino business and the economy tanks, all casinos take it in the ass like he did. How come you guys don't list everyone else in Atlantic City that crash and burned? Because you hate Trump, that's why.
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The Outlaw said:
Pelosi... Schiff... Biden... Sanders and all the welfare rats that support them. All the morons that think these individuals aren't getting wealthy off the American taxpayer and actually BELIEVE they care about anything other than their careers and retirement accounts.
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Oh no...you don't really think Trump cares about you, do you? Oh bless your heart, you do!
 
Imtired said:
Socialism, you keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means. Giving tax breaks to the rich is not socialism, but giving tax breaks to the middle class is. Um, okaaaaay.

”If Henry Ford cornered the market, why are there so many other car companies equally as strong or stronger?” Lol, what??? Henry Ford built his Model-T back in 1908. And he did corner the market back then. You’re seriously trying to make the point that since Ford and his Model-T aren’t still the leaders in the auto industry that negates the point my point?
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Oh, I know what it means... and libtards offered socialism thinking there'd be enough sheep out there to vote for it. Since the DNC was incapable of providing a candidate that could beat Trump, socialism is the easy way out. The same way libtards love to take more of our tax dollars to throw at problems. Money never solves the problems but at least you losers can circle jerk each other with warm and fuzzies that they're trying. Nobody said giving tax breaks to anybody is socialism. You clowns keep whining that companies get tax breaks. Yes, that enables them to invest more on products, expansion and employees. Well, unless you're AOC, then you don't want your locals to have jobs.

You brought up Henry Ford. Why? Who knows. Uh... he was a good guy? Was that it?
 
Imtired said:
Cool, then you can stop being so hysterical about mythical illegals voting.
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Nothing hysterical here. I just keep having to make the point so you understand why you continue losing. There's nothing mythical about it. Jerry Brown gave them mythical licenses and libtards, in their desperation for votes, have promised them everything imaginable. Voting rights... free healthcare... no borders... special programs so they don't have to pay for shit like the rest of us do... what a gig.
 
The Outlaw said:
Oh... Bloomberg. THAT'S trustworthy. Here's something a little less jaded about Trump and says they all failed.


and another:

www.hotelmanagement.net

Why Atlantic City casinos are really failing

Here’s something we all know: The glory days of Atlantic City are long gone. | It’s a matter of adapt or die. Here’s how they did it to themselves, and what lessons you can learn.
www.hotelmanagement.net www.hotelmanagement.net
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Just checking - do you think those articles make t look like a financial genius?
 
espola said:
Just checking - do you think those articles make t look like a financial genius?
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The point of the articles is to show that all the casinos failed... not just Trump. I personally never said he was a "financial genius." I'm not aware of any Presidents that were financial geniuses... but he beat a bunch of political "geniuses" from the demotard side, didn't he?
 
The Outlaw said:
Oh... Bloomberg. THAT'S trustworthy. Here's something a little less jaded about Trump and says they all failed.


and another:

www.hotelmanagement.net

Why Atlantic City casinos are really failing

Here’s something we all know: The glory days of Atlantic City are long gone. | It’s a matter of adapt or die. Here’s how they did it to themselves, and what lessons you can learn.
www.hotelmanagement.net www.hotelmanagement.net
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Ahhh, right...keep forgetting anything that doesn’t conform to your narrative is “fake news”.
 
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