Say bye-bye-bye to Girls and Boys DA

The Outlaw said:
Can you be on a soccer field without getting shot at in Oakland, Richmond or Vallejo? Maybe if California stopped treating criminals like victims and kept scum locked up where they belong, we could have clubs there, Dre.

P.S. - Those 3 cities are all within a 1 hour drive from Rage, Mustang, Davis and Marin FC.
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What an asshole... take that political crap to the off-topic board where it belongs.
 
MacDre said:
No

Nothing in Oakland, Richmond, or Vallejo!
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Good points. It will be less up north. Looking at the map, it seems Marin is closest to those first 2 cities. I used to live in Nor Cal about 6 years ago so I can attest lots of the top clubs up there are in medium to very wealthy areas.

Right or wrong, these elite leagues in soccer will often be in well off areas on the girls side. At least it many cases it appears that way
 
From the Spot said:
I'm interested to know how the whole ECNL RL fits in the new landscape. My understanding for the 19-20 season was it functioned as a stand alone league and the only connection to ECNL was the chance to play in the Open Cup during the July showcase. Are they changing the set up for the 20-21 season? Since field space at ECNL showcases seems to be a concern will the RL have their own separate showcases during the season? Just seems odd to have clubs joining without more information.
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It is separate similar to DA and DPL (but it's at least governed by ECNL unlike DA and dPL) but it will become strong and the kids will get chance to play up on ECNL rosters at showcases and things or even get promoted once this settles down.....standard will go up so it will work out well I think.....
 
sirfootyalot said:
Just two teams moving over to ECNL from DA at the moment. Surf and Real So Cal. Interesting time ahead for other clubs
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There will apparently be more than enough DA teams in
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX.
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That's a good point. One solution would be using a relegation model, but that is only being used on the boys side, correct?
 
outside! said:
In the end, none of this is good for the future of soccer in the United States.
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The best players all playing in one smaller league and all the others still able to play in local leagues.....I don't see the problem other than the short term BS that some families are having to go through.....I thought I was going to be one of them so I do feel for them but long term it makes more sense to have 14 elite clubs rather than 26 in the southwest region spread over two leagues.........relegation model might be fun if introduced!
 
kickingandscreaming said:
There will apparently be more than enough DA teams in

That's a good point. One solution would be using a relegation model, but that is only being used on the boys side, correct?
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There is promotion relegation in NPL on girls and boys side. In my estimation, ECNL could easily turn to this model which could accommodate many teams by providing 3-4 tiers.
 
kickingandscreaming said:
There will apparently be more than enough DA teams in

That's a good point. One solution would be using a relegation model, but that is only being used on the boys side, correct?
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and that's only in Nor Cal boys side. I'm guessing because those who run the Nor Cal premier prefer it. I know the NPL up there has Pro and Rel.

If MLS doesn't use it, why should ECNL? right... :)
 
futboldad1 said:
This interesting.....I want to be brutally honest.....and I am talking Southwest here, 26 clubs was too many (12 ECNL and 14 DA).....Real got in but if they hadn't not my DD and I would've been prepared to drive to play the best opponents with the best exposure......the talent will amass in the ECNL as 26 "elite" teams in each age group became 14.....that is going to drive the quality of the rosters and games way up.....it is not a DA vs ECNL thing, it would have happened wither way but main takeaway is by adding too many clubs they would be repeating the same mistakes of the past....just drive if you want to play ECNL and don't if you don't want to.....I am talking strictly SW here where the ECNL clubs are reachable with effort, it may be way too far in the NW (I would not do a 4 hour round trip for any club! but I am okay with 2 or even a bit more)
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Different in NW. Our conference is far too large geographically. From Seattle to Denver. I would be delighted if ECNL accepted every NW DA team and just split the conference in two. Even if that means dd goes to fewer showcases.
 
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything,ut this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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All of the comments may become irrelevant for EVERYONE! There probably won't be a soccer season this fall (club, high school, college or professional). If the virus continues there might not be a lot of clubs even in existence by this time next year. Anyone who thinks there will be showcases in November or December need to read the literature on this virus. Soccer is a contact sport. Even if there aren't people watching the game, players who have no symptoms can spread the virus to other players, parents, siblings and friends. Time will tell. Hope for the best and plan for the worst, even if the government didn't .
 
dad4 said:
Why does the 596th best team in the country need to be at a national complex? And why is it important enough to leave out the second best team in the country?

Looking at Sharks and Legends for U14. If I were a scout, I think I’d rather watch Legends.
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But then again, you are not a scout. :)
 
soccer4us said:
I've said it before and will say it again. One of the main factors in accepting new clubs right now that no one is talking about. IF THEY ADD TOO MANY, THEY DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ROOM AT THEIR SHOWCASES TO PUT ALL TEAMS AT 1 COMPLEX. This is much more important then anyone gives credit for. Some politics of course is there like anything, but this is one of the biggest factors. Otherwise the product you give clubs won't be nearly as good and that's a big negative.
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Easy fix. One solution would be to not let new club who jump in now participate in showcases next year. They can go to big open tournaments instead. Not the end of the world and an easy tradeoff for a club looking to be accepted into ECNL. The following year, limit showcases to the top X clubs per conference and then the others that don't qualify go instead to the big open tourneys instead of showcases.

Zero reason to refuse new club additions that will improve leagues and shorten average travel time just because of showcase field space. That's a very solvable problem.
 
Word is that there will be no soccer at least until 2021. All the sanctioning bodies would not be able to get insurance at a normal cost until 2021 at the earliest. Like others have said there may be some clubs that will likely no longer exist when all this is done.
 
timmyh said:
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Easy fix. One solution would be to not let new club who jump in now participate in showcases next year. They can go to big open tournaments instead. Not the end of the world and an easy tradeoff for a club looking to be accepted into ECNL. The following year, limit showcases to the top X clubs per conference and then the others that don't qualify go instead to the big open tourneys instead of showcases.

Zero reason to refuse new club additions that will improve leagues and shorten average travel time just because of showcase field space. That's a very solvable problem.
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Dilution dilution dilution......not going to happen.....talent was spread too thin before....for the last time, if you don't want to drive for ECNL.....then play local.....
 
The Outlaw said:
Can you be on a soccer field without getting shot at in Oakland, Richmond or Vallejo? Maybe if California stopped treating criminals like victims and kept scum locked up where they belong, we could have clubs there, Dre.

P.S. - Those 3 cities are all within a 1 hour drive from Rage, Mustang, Davis and Marin FC.
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Of course you can. Baseball, football, and basketball have for several years. I remember De La Salle and Serra (Tom Brady) coming to the hood for games back in the days.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Word is that there will be no soccer at least until 2021. All the sanctioning bodies would not be able to get insurance at a normal cost until 2021 at the earliest. Like others have said there may be some clubs that will likely no longer exist when all this is done.
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Do clubs have insurance for the normal flu influenza? Do normal businesses have this type of insurance? This cant be true....
 
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