Goats FC History?

Again, anyone can form a stacked team, easy to do...but what's the point? I don't believe this is what most folks are signing up for.

When invited to play the best of the best... I feel most folks expect it to be organic teams, you don't... difference of opinion.

I don't know but maybe you do...does Surf Cup allow stacked non organic teams in best of the best brackets? If not, why not?

Dude, let it go already.
 
For me, this has everything to do with disagreement with tournament directors allowing stacked teams to play in prestigious national tournaments, period.

Fast forward to the year 2025. Stanford, UCLA, North Carolina, and the other national championship contenders are preparing scholarship offers to the class of 2027.

College Coach (CC): We think you're a great player and have all the qualities we look for in a player. But...I was looking through your bio and I noticed that you didn't win the U11 Blues Cup Championship back in 2019. Can you tell me what happened?

Player (P): There's this forum online called SoCal Soccer forum and some users put a stacked team together and knocked my team out. But that was when I was in fifth grade. Two-thirds of those girls stopped playing before we got to high school.

CC: So you didn't win?

P: No, but I told you, it was in fifth grade.

CC: *sigh* I don't think you understand. The Blues Cup is a PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL TOURNAMENT. In fact, reaching the finals is a prerequisite for joining our program. I'm sorry, but I don't think you're UCLA/Stanford/NC material.

P: I was 10 years old! I've grown 7 inches, gained 30 pounds, my technique is top notch and I've been called in to USYNT national camps multiple times. I don't understand why a tournament I played in 5th grade, before I even went through puberty, would have an impact on your decision.

CC: Our decision is final. Good luck to you.
 
Again, anyone can form a stacked team, easy to do...but what's the point? I don't believe this is what most folks are signing up for.

When invited to play the best of the best... I feel most folks expect it to be organic teams, you don't... difference of opinion.

I don't know but maybe you do...does Surf Cup allow stacked non organic teams in best of the best brackets? If not, why not?

Last thing I gotta say is that you are dealing with something that involves a lot of people and their opinions towards it. As long as there are people like me that can appreciate competing against a team like that you will never win especially if the majority of people are against you.

But I understand where you are coming from when you are fighting for something you believe is the right way because I’ve been in a similar situation where the majority did not agree with the way I was handling a situation. But mine was a little different. It’s personal, and tied to my family and the way I’m developing and training my own daughter. I stuck to my guns about it and until I start to see it go in the wrong direction I will adjust and change my approach but so far so good. It’s working. Best advice I can give you is not to attend any tournaments where these teams are allowed. That way it won’t ever be a problem.
 
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Last thing I gotta say is that you are dealing with something that involves a lot of people and their opinions towards it. As long as there are people like me that can appreciate competing against a team like that you will never win especially if the majority of people are against you.

But I understand where you are coming from when you are fighting for something you believe is the right way because I’ve been in a similar situation where the majority did not agree with the way I was handling a situation. But mine was a little different. It’s personal, and tied to my family and the way I’m developing and training my own daughter. I stuck to my guns about it and until I start to see it go in the wrong direction I will adjust and change my approach but so far so good. It’s working. Best advice I can give you is not to attend any tournaments where these teams are allowed. That way it won’t ever be a problem.
Fair enough. Although, I can care less about the majority on this forum (as seen above, most of what they post is drivel)...I do appreciate and respect your opinion and insight.

Best of luck to you and your daughter on her soccer journey.
 
Although, I can care less about the majority on this forum (as seen above, most of what they post is drivel)...I do appreciate and respect your opinion and insight.
You say this, but you're the one who raised this thread from the dead. We wouldn't even be discussing this if you JUST STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

But you won't. Because now it's a matter of pride and showing us how wrong we are, and how enlightened and principled you are (in your own mind at least). Prove me wrong. Stop posting in this thread.
 
You say this, but you're the one who raised this thread from the dead. We wouldn't even be discussing this if you JUST STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD AND MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE.

But you won't. Because now it's a matter of pride and showing us how wrong we are, and how enlightened and principled you are (in your own mind at least). Prove me wrong. Stop posting in this thread.
Wow! A late night rant, with CAPS and all. It's obvious I live rent free in your empty head... hopefully you didn't lose too much sleep.

You don't need me to prove you wrong... you're doing it yourself with the triggered senseless drivel you post.

Go ahead, evict me from your empty head by not posting further. You won't be able to let it go...prove me right.
#sleeplessinSoCal
 
Many out of state teams that come to California's "Prestigous National Tournaments" (which is a stretch when applied to Blues Cup) are star teams.
 
Many out of state teams that come to California's "Prestigous National Tournaments" (which is a stretch when applied to Blues Cup) are star teams.
I understand. My opinion is all-star teams should not be encouraged or allowed whenever it's known or obvious. I also understand guest playing for missing players...but, I hope it's not for lesser players.

These tournaments are far from perfect systems, but I'd like to see them kept as organic as leagues and State/National Cups. I may be wrong to think that is what most folks sign-up for, but who knows. Have a good day.
 
Wow! A late night rant, with CAPS and all. It's obvious I live rent free in your empty head... hopefully you didn't lose too much sleep.

You don't need me to prove you wrong... you're doing it yourself with the triggered senseless drivel you post.

Go ahead, evict me from your empty head by not posting further. You won't be able to let it go...prove me right.
#sleeplessinSoCal

Dude, do you have any other comeback besides, "I know you are, but what am I?" You put a lot of thought into your (misguided) opinions about PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS and "organic teams", but the best comeback you have is essentially, "I know you are, but what am I?" Weak.

Clearly you care about my "senseless drivel". If I don't care about someone's posts, I don't reply. You keep replying. Clearly I'm pushing a button. So if we're going to continue this (and I can go on forever), can you PLEASE get more original than "I know you are, but what am I?"

Back to the substance of your argument. THERE ARE NO PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS FOR 10 YEAR OLDS. Your arguments would hold weight if they were 16 years old and competing for scholarships. Nobody is watching 10 year olds. NOBODY. Blues Cup at U11 is a fun weekend for the kids, nothing more. The only importance it has is what the over-involved, over-competitive parents (e.g., you) place on it. The tournament means absolutely nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

If you've read my "senseless drivel" this far (and I know you have, because you're too prideful not to) let's get to know each other. You said your kid wasn't in the tourney. What age level is your player. Is your player a she? Does he/she even play in Socal? Is this your oldest child? Is this your first time on the club circuit?

I'll go first. My player is a 2006 U14. Been in club since 8 years old. Oldest child. We live in SoCal, but have never played in the PRESTIGIOUS Blues Cup, so maybe I should be worried about her college prospects? IDK. First time on the club circuit. At U11 I noticed a lot of parents that behave like you and it honestly ruined my experience. As the years have gone on and it's become obvious who can and cannot play I see fewer and fewer nut jobs. The focus now is on skills/athletic training, keeping grades up, and having a long term vision of getting some scholarship money.

I looked at a picture my DH's team took for a U10 tourney a few years back and out of 11 girls only 7 still play. I remember being REALLY competitive and angry when things didn't go the teams way. Now I realize, it didn't mean a goddamn thing. My DH is going to get where she's going based on the work she puts in as an individual, not because she got knocked out of a tournament by a "stacked" or "inorganic" team.

Come on, reply. With real answers. Not that weak sauce you've been replying with.
 
Dude, do you have any other comeback besides, "I know you are, but what am I?" You put a lot of thought into your (misguided) opinions about PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS and "organic teams", but the best comeback you have is essentially, "I know you are, but what am I?" Weak.

Clearly you care about my "senseless drivel". If I don't care about someone's posts, I don't reply. You keep replying. Clearly I'm pushing a button. So if we're going to continue this (and I can go on forever), can you PLEASE get more original than "I know you are, but what am I?"

Back to the substance of your argument. THERE ARE NO PRESTIGIOUS NATIONAL TOURNAMENTS FOR 10 YEAR OLDS. Your arguments would hold weight if they were 16 years old and competing for scholarships. Nobody is watching 10 year olds. NOBODY. Blues Cup at U11 is a fun weekend for the kids, nothing more. The only importance it has is what the over-involved, over-competitive parents (e.g., you) place on it. The tournament means absolutely nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

If you've read my "senseless drivel" this far (and I know you have, because you're too prideful not to) let's get to know each other. You said your kid wasn't in the tourney. What age level is your player. Is your player a she? Does he/she even play in Socal? Is this your oldest child? Is this your first time on the club circuit?

I'll go first. My player is a 2006 U14. Been in club since 8 years old. Oldest child. We live in SoCal, but have never played in the PRESTIGIOUS Blues Cup, so maybe I should be worried about her college prospects? IDK. First time on the club circuit. At U11 I noticed a lot of parents that behave like you and it honestly ruined my experience. As the years have gone on and it's become obvious who can and cannot play I see fewer and fewer nut jobs. The focus now is on skills/athletic training, keeping grades up, and having a long term vision of getting some scholarship money.

I looked at a picture my DH's team took for a U10 tourney a few years back and out of 11 girls only 7 still play. I remember being REALLY competitive and angry when things didn't go the teams way. Now I realize, it didn't mean a goddamn thing. My DH is going to get where she's going based on the work she puts in as an individual, not because she got knocked out of a tournament by a "stacked" or "inorganic" team.

Come on, reply. With real answers. Not that weak sauce you've been replying with.
CHECKMATE!

Too easy. I'm out...Ciao!
 
As far as the 03/04 group history , some of the club coaches were too paranoid to let their kids go for one weekend a year even if they werent playing so there were a few offshoots like the Scapegoats that played some futsal and 3 v 3 tournaments and some "farm" teams like the Candy Corns (who also had a gotsoccer useless ranking) and Honey Badgers who dominated the futsal scene for a while.
The best though is that there were some great friendships made by the parents that carry on to this day. It always is great to know someone on opposing sidelines. This summer i even had lunch in hawaii with a goat dad when he was dropping his kid off at UH and i was on vacation.
As for stacked team vs organic, i wouldnt complain about losing to a team that never practiced or knew each others names and ate hot dogs in between games. I just wouldnt. And at least for our group, although a talented group, not every player was the best from their team and a few weren't even starters.
 
And I do have a life. Haven't been on this site since last week. Come back tonight and it's still going strong...much thanks to you. Glad I saved some popcorn.
I'm not sure I have a life. I just posted and I said I wouldn't 100%. PaPa is what makes this forum go. Let's give him some encouragement. These are tough times for all of us on many different levels.
 
I'm not sure I have a life. I just posted and I said I wouldn't 100%. PaPa is what makes this forum go. Let's give him some encouragement. These are tough times for all of us on many different levels.

Get to work. Those pipes aren't going to fix themselves.
 
@Sparky9 Checked out Left Coast Brewery last week after you posted that on another thread recently. That was some good BBQ!! No brews though. I was driving and working later that day. Thanks for the heads up. Definitely going to be our new spot anytime we play at OCGP.
 
That complex keeps getting better over the years. We were with bladescoach at the time when there were only 6 fields. The Ducks new facility is excellent. My girls have done a lot of soccer and lacrosse tournaments there. Definitely my favorite venue with no parking fees.
More good restaurants close by and it will be perfect.
 
LOL, I didn't know this thread was still going?

Anyways, Slammers PA GOATS just got invited to SuperCopa. Problem is, so did Slammers PA?

Maybe they can just take both and 7 of the Slammers PA can play twice the games!!! What if they play each other?!?!? Who forfeits? LOL.

Well, whoever goes, I wish you luck! Especially if you have to PDA!
 
Does it matter? Wouldn’t you want to play against the best players available? I would, whether the team is called goats, boats, seagulls or PA doesn’t matter to me. Just happens PA and Goats are the current teams that most others aspire to be and beat.
This is the whole friggin’ point. Now anyone should be allowed to create an All Star team and play in any tournament that they want. That is the bottom line. There is no arguement.

Kids should no longer be stuck with the weak links on their club team. Those parents should now be granted access to recruit the best girls from other clubs via local forums along with grabbing the best players from each respectively team member who is not part of a forum. LOL.
 
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