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The only concern that Pepperdine should have is that 3 of their last 4 games are against the 3 weakest teams in the conference in terms of scheduling. That means that like last year the last 2 weeks of the season they are going to see their RPI steadily go down. They better be at worst in the high 20's or low 30's in RPI when that happens or they could be in trouble. Their schedule is nicely front loaded so they are going to have to get a win or two from Texas A&M or Vanderbilt or that stretch in the middle of September where they face Stanford, UCLA and Wazzu in a 10 day period could end any hopes of an at large bid and make them need to win the title outright. I look forward to following them this year.
 
MakeAPlay said:
The only concern that Pepperdine should have is that 3 of their last 4 games are against the 3 weakest teams in the conference in terms of scheduling. That means that like last year the last 2 weeks of the season they are going to see their RPI steadily go down. They better be at worst in the high 20's or low 30's in RPI when that happens or they could be in trouble. Their schedule is nicely front loaded so they are going to have to get a win or two from Texas A&M or Vanderbilt or that stretch in the middle of September where they face Stanford, UCLA and Wazzu in a 10 day period could end any hopes of an at large bid and make them need to win the title outright. I look forward to following them this year.
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Their RPI is going to go down even if they win?
 
MakeAPlay said:
If you aren't trolling and really want to know here is something to occupy your time. It is a very good read if you ACTUALLY CARE.

http://rpiford1wsoccer.blogspot.com/
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I'm not new to this issue. It comes up every year in the bigsoccer men's college forum. I recognize that there are certain unusual situations where a team's RPI can decline after a win against a weak opponent (the NCAA ice hockey tournament selection even adjusts RPI for those cases, and I have been following discussions about that since I have had a home computer), but I have never seen three in a row. The usual belief I encounter is that teams in certain conferences automatically get boosts to their RPI - not without winning records against other conferences, they don't.
 
espola said:
I'm not new to this issue. It comes up every year in the bigsoccer men's college forum. I recognize that there are certain unusual situations where a team's RPI can decline after a win against a weak opponent (the NCAA ice hockey tournament selection even adjusts RPI for those cases, and I have been following discussions about that since I have had a home computer), but I have never seen three in a row. The usual belief I encounter is that teams in certain conferences automatically get boosts to their RPI - not without winning records against other conferences, they don't.
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It is the huge penalty that you get for playing in a weaker conference. UCLA always gets a boost because it ends with $C. The Trojans even suffered no decline in RPI after losing to UCLA. The committee still showed their east coast bias and gave them a 4 seed but that is a whole different discussion.
 
My kid’s team has a few freshman that are going to have a good season and contribute. Which is saying something considering that only 2 of the top 20 players graduated and one is injured and going to miss the season. They also have a transfer defender from England that is going to help them replace the one starter that they lost.

I am hoping for them to add a 2nd star to the kit. It’s going to be a fun season.
 
MakeAPlay said:
It is the huge penalty that you get for playing in a weaker conference. UCLA always gets a boost because it ends with $C. The Trojans even suffered no decline in RPI after losing to UCLA. The committee still showed their east coast bias and gave them a 4 seed but that is a whole different discussion.
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Tell us more about east coast bias.
 
MakeAPlay said:
It is the huge penalty that you get for playing in a weaker conference. UCLA always gets a boost because it ends with $C. The Trojans even suffered no decline in RPI after losing to UCLA. The committee still showed their east coast bias and gave them a 4 seed but that is a whole different discussion.
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The usual situation is not that a team's RPI declines, but that the RPI of other teams will increase by more, thus lowering the relative position of the team in question. The only RPI calculation that matters is the one done at the end of the season on the day the selection committee meets.
 
MakeAPlay said:
https://sites.google.com/site/rpifordivisioniwomenssoccer/


Please read the RPI formula. The Pepperdine fans know that it happened last year down the stretch. They were 5-0-1 down the stretch and their RPI tanked the last 3 weeks of the season AFTER it peaked when they beat Santa Clara and BYU in back to back games.
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WCC as a whole need to do well non-conference so losses to lower table teams aren't crippling come time for selection on Sunday.
 
SpeedK1llz said:
No disrespect to the prior defensive regime but I think some people not in the know are going to be surprised at how little, of any, our defense will be impacted. We’re young but we’ve got some serious talent back there. The “X factor” will be the difference on offense between this year and last. The chemistry up top is phenomenal and the speed and aggressiveness of the attack is going to put some teams on their heels.
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I think every team in the WCC got better except Gonzaga. Another game of thrones blood bath awaits when the season tips off.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I posted that link for him on post #538 above in this thread. I'm pretty sure that he is familiar with it. He just is looking for someone to engage with. Please resist the temptation.
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I understand about the formula. My point in bringing up the gauchodan page was to see if there was a similarly thorough game-by-game analysis on the womens side.
 
A whopping 3 WCC teams are on Chris Henderson’s “razzie” list of worst non conference strength of schedules list. USD, st Mary’s and pacific all have SOS above 200. That won’t help conference RPI.
 
full90 said:
A whopping 3 WCC teams are on Chris Henderson’s “razzie” list of worst non conference strength of schedules list. USD, st Mary’s and pacific all have SOS above 200. That won’t help conference RPI.
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If they win against those turkeys (assuming they actually do turn out to be turkeys and not some surprising diamonds in the rough) that will give other teams in the conference a chance to improve their RPI, since opponents' WLT counts twice as much as opponents' opponents' WLT.
 
So it’s a lose lose situation when any of the big three play us. RPI goes down if you beat us and if you lose or tie us, you won’t be selected to the ncaa if you aren’t in first place. That’s funny.

So better root for us to do well during non conference!
 
UOP said:
So it’s a lose lose situation when any of the big three play us. RPI goes down if you beat us and if you lose or tie us, you won’t be selected to the ncaa if you aren’t in first place. That’s funny.

So better root for us to do well during non conference!
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It’s always a good idea to root for your teams in your conference to do well for the exact reason that you mentioned. Although if your rival is in the conference it’s okay to make an exception.

It would be nice to have more California teams in the tournament especially with the College Cup being in San Jose this year. I would love to see 4 California schools there. This is going to be a fun season.
 
Kicker4Life said:
What’s the date? Would love to take my girls to that one
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August 29th at 5pm. It's a Thursday night double header with $C. Should be a good chance to see 4 talented teams battle it out. I actually get to see my two favorite teams in the same night. UCLA and whoever is playing $C.....

I can't imagine there is a better single venue ticket prior to the College Cup in terms of getting to see 3 legitimate contenders for the national title. Well 2 legitimate contenders and $C.
 
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