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Lion Eyes said:
"I mean seriously", can you document the times Trump has lied to congress.......
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Put him in office, I'm sure we'll get a mountain of them, since literally everything out of his mouth is bullshit.

Again, my goal isn't to defend HRC, who I don't like. My curiosity is in how easily people are dismissing Trump's avalanche of lies while at the same time bashing HRC for lying.
Cognitive dissonance
 
Wez said:
Put him in office, I'm sure we'll get a mountain of them, since literally everything out of his mouth is bullshit.

Again, my goal isn't to defend HRC, who I don't like. My curiosity is in how easily people are dismissing Trump's avalanche of lies while at the same time bashing HRC for lying.
Cognitive dissonance
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What lies are you talking about?
So you got nothing? No examples of Trump's lies... nice argument.
Let us know when you get something....
 
Wez said:
The fact that the media refuses to give any coverage to someone like Gary Johnson is proof that there is a broken system, for sure.
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Pat Paulson felt the same way.
He ran for President a half dozen times.
Never got much attention either.
 
Lion Eyes said:
What lies are you talking about?
So you got nothing? No examples of Trump's lies... nice argument.
Let us know when you get something....
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Seriously, it took about 1 second to find this:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

...and that's not a complete list by any means. That's just what they had at the time and that's just the "false" ratings, take a look at "pants on fire". Dude, are you that blinded by partisanship that you can't see him for what he is???
 
17SquirrelsDad said:
Just an FYI - be careful using 'Politifact' as a reliable site for bi-partisan comparison. This site is maintained by the same couple (the Michealsons) that maintain Snope.com. Hardly bi-partisan.
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Have you done any research, I'd love to see what you came up with?
 
Wez said:
Seriously, it took about 1 second to find this:

http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/

...and that's not a complete list by any means. That's just what they had at the time and that's just the "false" ratings, take a look at "pants on fire". Dude, are you that blinded by partisanship that you can't see him for what he is???
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Where did he lie to congress?
Some of the things your source lists as a lie is Trump sharing an opinion :
"Just look at what the FBI director said about her (Hillary Clinton) Her misconduct is a disgrace and embarrassment to our country." That's his opinion of Hillary.
Trump is not alone with his opinion. I can't believe folks are willing to over look all the significant lies this women has told.
Please tell me you have Trump under oath and lying to congress or the American people.
Tell me he has repeated and embellished lies from his past ala Hillary...
She claims to have never sent or received classified documents. Liar or incompetent.
Either one should disqualify her from the office.
 
Lion Eyes said:
"I mean seriously", can you document the times Trump has lied to congress.......
I've documented some of Hillary's lies, perhaps you should document the lies Trump has told congress & the American people.
Hillary lies so much it's second nature. Sort of pathological, wouldn't you agree?
Did she not tell the American public that she never sent or received classified information on her email? She lied.
Did she not tell congress that she turned in all work related emails and documents to the State Department? Another lie.
She claims her lawyers read every email before they were deleted, they did not.
Brian Williams was fired for telling tales of helicopter's he was riding in coming under attack, not Sir Hillary.
One more time with Trump, I will hold my nose and cast a vote for Trump before I will ever cast a vote for Hillary Clinton.
A few days ago, a Washington Post and ABC News poll found that 56% think Hillary should be indicted. Wouldn't surprise me if those numbers have risen.
We haven't even talked about Madame Secretaries policies that turned North Africa into a killing field...Arab Spring? Right?
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Lion you really are being a shameless apologist for the GOP here. Lol... you can't vote for Trump because he's more honest. Nobody believes that.

Moreover when did you change your opinion about Trump? I remember you saying he'd never get your vote. My guess is that the conservative voice from above just spoke down and now the sheeple are falling in line.
 
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Lion Eyes said:
Where did he lie to congress?
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You asked for examples of him lying, you got your answer, sorry if you didn't like it and feel you now have to place additional conditions on his lies. You clearly feel more comfortable with his lies, compared to hers, that's your choice.
 
If it's about lying and politicians, I tend not to care. Both parties, hell ALL politicians lie. I take that for granted. If their lies have a direct impact on my livelihood, that's when I care.
 
Wez said:
I'm being lazy and asking you for your research, that shows snopes and politifact as being a partisan site?
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Used to use Snopes lots to try to determine the truth until something didn't seem right. So I did a little research on David and Barbara Mikkelson of San Fernando valley. Turns out they weren't/aren't very bit-partisan. Turns out they will blatantly lie on Snopes if it suits them. As for Politifact - that's run from the Tampa Bay Times, as quoted: "a notoriously liberal newspaper". But, you can research it.
 
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