Do you think if a club has an issue of a coach having inappropriate relations with a child it...

Albion is just a POS club and so is FACT posting nonsense.
 
GoldenFjord said:
I've always been an asshole, you've seen it on this board and off-topic. EC is implying that Albion gave everyone full warning that this was going on. That didn't happen. What possible purpose would there be for that?
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I have to go with E-reader on this one, nobody knows an asshole better than him, he lives in a house of mirrors.
 
INFAMEE said:
Albion is just a POS club and so is FACT posting nonsense.
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You’re not wrong on the first part but the fact of the matter is EC is full of it: there was no notification given to the team. Albion dropped the ball and let countless young girls be exposed to a lecherous imp of a man and then tried to pretend it never happened.
@ecsoccermom had better have some Primos reasons to be defending Albion right now, oh wait...
 
Look, I am not comfortable posting the email here. In rereading the posts, I realized there may be a misunderstanding. The email I received was recently sent out (within the past week), I am not trying to argue that Albion sent an email immediately after the incident.
In my opinion, the recent email explained why Albion took the actions they have up to this point. Other parents in the club will have to decide for themselves.
I am not condoning Sheri's actions. I don't have experience with this sort of issue so I can't say how another club would have handled, but based on the information I was given, I don't blame the club.
 
ecsoccermom said:
Look, I am not comfortable posting the email here. In rereading the posts, I realized there may be a misunderstanding. The email I received was recently sent out (within the past week), I am not trying to argue that Albion sent an email immediately after the incident.
In my opinion, the recent email explained why Albion took the actions they have up to this point. Other parents in the club will have to decide for themselves.
I am not condoning Sheri's actions. I don't have experience with this sort of issue so I can't say how another club would have handled, but based on the information I was given, I don't blame the club.
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Like I said
Primo
 
ecsoccermom said:
I am an Albion parent. I have asked and they have explained. A letter did go out to TS teams and the league, legal and law enforcement were contacted as soon as Abion was notified of the situation. I have been with the club for over seven years...boys side and over two years on the girls side and never felt that my kid’s best interest were not taken seriously.
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Classic Albion parents thinking!

Just like my friend told me, "You and whoever told you that story are hating on our club!"

They will continue to support Albion and whatever NG shenanigans comes up with.
 
You know, everybody is bashing on Albion, and by all accounts rightfully so, but to suggest that Albion parents should all leave the club because of this, is hypocritical BS.

My loyalty is and always has been to the team and coach. I rarely pay attention to other teams in the club or the club’s activities, especially now that my dd’s are leaving the youngers era (04’s).

If I was at Albion, I could give a rip what people say about Albion. I’m not going uproot my situation (coach, team, location, practice schedule, and other logistics), because of what other people think of my club.
 
Justafan said:
You know, everybody is bashing on Albion, and by all accounts rightfully so, but to suggest that Albion parents should all leave the club because of this, is hypocritical BS.

My loyalty is and always has been to the team and coach. I rarely pay attention to other teams in the club or the club’s activities, especially now that my dd’s are leaving the youngers era (04’s).

If I was at Albion, I could give a rip what people say about Albion. I’m not going uproot my situation (coach, team, location, practice schedule, and other logistics), because of what other people think of my club.
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I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
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It's very transparent at all clubs. All coaches have to pass the LiveScan in order to coach in CA. Whether a coach has been found guilty of misbehavior that would show on their record is another topic that's not so easy to address.
 
So a question to people who run their own business or to lawyers out there who might be reading this, what can Albion SC do legally when no charges have been filed? What can they say? Just curious. I know the 2 most recent cases I remember at SDSC (sexting charges) and Poway (sexual abuse) charges were filed and both clubs were very quick with their firing and public response to the situation. What can you do when there aren't any charges? I'm outraged if these accusations are true, and I find it disconcerting to think some folks think that because someone is 18+, that what was sent was legal and so they shouldn't file.

I just wonder if Albion isn't doing what they can in light of no charges being filed. That fact that they let him go (apparently without push back from TS) without charges says their might be fire around that smoke, but without charges they might have to hold what they can say or do for now. Just curious.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
I certainly respect your position. However, if you were at Albion would you at least be requesting a copy of the clubs hiring practices? Asking what background checks the club is doing, are they calling previous employers to check on the terms of them leaving the previous job.

For that matter have you asked your own club these things? Do you know "who" your daughter's coach is? I am not so sure that this is transparent at most clubs? In fact I think this forum points to at least two people that are/were at local clubs that were hired despite past allegations. If the club is hiring employees despite past allegations are you comfortable having your child at that club? I have Zero idea if any of the allegations are true, I am not involved, however it has made me re-think "who" I am trusting with my daughter and what the review process is at my club for the hiring of individuals.
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Fair questions, but I’ve never asked my own club and any background investigations would be almost meaningless to me. The background checks would not cause me to feel any more secure, nor would they make me any less vigilant regarding sexual abuse of minors. My guard is always high when it comes to this.

You can show me a piece of paper signed by the most respected members of the community attesting to your good moral character and that you do not sexually abuse kids. I’ll throw that in the trash and judge you with my own eyes and instincts.

I always chuckle at communities that come out and protest when a registered sex offender is living in their neighborhood or is about to move in. As if kicking that sex offender out now makes your community safe and immune. Yes you got rid of one, but you should be more concerned and vigilant with the ones you don’t know about.

I mean who the hell really knows what your neighbor does behind closed doors and behind that computer? Point being, when it comes to this kind of stuff, EVERYBODY should start off as a suspect.
 
Sunil Illuminati said:
It's very transparent at all clubs. All coaches have to pass the LiveScan in order to coach in CA. Whether a coach has been found guilty of misbehavior that would show on their record is another topic that's not so easy to address.
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http://www.ssci2000.com/california-parks-and-recreation-agencies-and-background-checks/

http://employmentbackgroundcheck.company/live-scan-surprising-facts/

Safe to say, that LiveScan is a nice CYA for the clubs, but not exactly re-assuring to a parent. as JustaFan points out, parental vigilance needs to be everyone's priority and if something seems off, it probably is.
 
Sons of Pitches said:
http://www.ssci2000.com/california-parks-and-recreation-agencies-and-background-checks/

http://employmentbackgroundcheck.company/live-scan-surprising-facts/

Safe to say, that LiveScan is a nice CYA for the clubs, but not exactly re-assuring to a parent. as JustaFan points out, parental vigilance needs to be everyone's priority and if something seems off, it probably is.
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Don't disagree but the response was based on the comment asking about club's having a background checking process. Whether you think it suffice is another question.
 
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