West Coast/Surf OC

Josep said:
First, they aren’t a DA program, so they don’t have that advantage. I’m merely talking about a name change. Their attempt at being under the slammers brand didn’t work very well. They have the youth rec program which cultivates and feeds players into their system. Many of their flight 1 teams are competitive, especially the olders. Yes, they are oversaturated with teams, but OC is saturated with club soccer. I’m not talking about the quality of their program. I’m talking about the transition from one club name to another.

Let’s be honest there’s a huge chunk of kids all over the map that don’t really belong in club soccer. It isn’t like it used to be 20-25 years ago.
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25 years ago you couldn’t find soccer on TV and gas was $1! That’s really not a good comparison.

Things have changed and the sport has grown. Whether or not a kid should be playing Club soccer is a decision for the parents, not the Clubs. They will happily accept payment.
 
Kicker4Life said:
25 years ago you couldn’t find soccer on TV and gas was $1! That’s really not a good comparison.

Things have changed and the sport has grown. Whether or not a kid should be playing Club soccer is a decision for the parents, not the Clubs. They will happily accept payment.
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Maybe 45 years ago.
 
Kicker4Life said:
25 years ago you couldn’t find soccer on TV and gas was $1! That’s really not a good comparison.

Things have changed and the sport has grown. Whether or not a kid should be playing Club soccer is a decision for the parents, not the Clubs. They will happily accept payment.
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Didn't they have Big Macs for $1 as well back then :D
 
STRENGTH IN UNITY – Surf Cup Sports and West Coast Futbol Club Form Groundbreaking Partnership
SAN DIEGO, CA., November 17, 2017 – We are pleased to announce that starting with the 2018/2019 season, West Coast Futbol Club will rebrand as “Orange County Surf Soccer Club” and become a partner of the Surf Soccer Club family, bringing together two of the most influential organizations in the Southern California soccer community.

The leaders of West Coast Futbol Club and Surf Cup Sports agree that the ultimate goal of an elite youth soccer club is to give its players the resources, coaching and structure necessary to allow them to fulfill their highest potential in soccer, whether that be a member of a SCDSL team or of the US National Team. We believe this partnership will allow each player to reach his/her fullest potential in a top quality organization that Southern California has never seen.

With an aim to develop world-class soccer players across Southern California, this historic partnership brings together Surf Cup Sports — a world class event and brand management firm, with a legendary youth club, West Coast Futbol Club — which has earned 4 USYS and 1 ECNL National Championships and is routinely ranked among the top 10 clubs in the nation. This partnership tracks a trend in the past 5 years of clubs and brands coming together to pool resources in order to provide a true development pathway for the best soccer players in a region.

“As soccer in the United States continues to evolve, we as an organization continue to look to increase our value proposition to our players and families,” said Girls VP Nick Cucuk.

“Through this partnership we look forward to aligning the top talent in the county and providing a real pathway for all of our players to compete at the college and professional level,” added Mike Lane Boys VP.

“At Surf Cup Sports, we believe that competitive youth soccer will continue its trajectory of consolidation and overall professionalization of club services. We look forward to welcoming West Coast Futbol Club to our Surf family and providing access to our extensive coaching education and administrative resources,” said Jeremy McDonald, VP Business Development for Surf Cup Sports.

“A partnership with Surf Cup Sports is a natural alliance that will benefit both organizations and all of our members,” said Rick Hough, President of West Coast Futbol Club. “Our Board of Directors’ number one priority is to provide great opportunities for our youth soccer players and take advantage of the changes in the current and future competitive marketplace.”

Founded in 1997, West Coast Futbol Club has consistently ranked highly among youth soccer clubs in IMG Academy Rankings. West Coast Futbol Club is known for a club culture that values superior technical skills, tactical awareness and a possession style of play that is highly prized by college coaches and U.S. Soccer. Orange County Surf Soccer Club participates in the US Soccer Development Academy (USSDA) and in the Elite Clubs National League (ECNL).

Surf Cup Sports was formed in 2012 to manage the iconic summer Surf Cup and winter College Cup and has since won a long-term lease for the 112-acre soccer complex in Del Mar known as Surf Cup Sports Park and now manages the SoCal Sports Park in Oceanside. Surf Cup Sports also manages the Surf brand and provides operational support to Surf clubs as well as the benefits of broader relationships with partners that include Nike, Manchester City FC, Soccer.com and many others.
 
JackZ said:
STRENGTH IN UNITY – Surf Cup Sports and West Coast Futbol Club Form Groundbreaking Partnership
SAN DIEGO, CA., November 17, 2017 – We are pleased to announce that starting with the 2018/2019 season, West Coast Futbol Club will rebrand as “Orange County Surf Soccer Club” and become a partner of the Surf Soccer Club family, bringing together two of the most influential organizations in the Southern California soccer community.

The leaders of West Coast Futbol Club and Surf Cup Sports agree that the ultimate goal of an elite youth soccer club is to give its players the resources, coaching and structure necessary to allow them to fulfill their highest potential in soccer, whether that be a member of a SCDSL team or of the US National Team. We believe this partnership will allow each player to reach his/her fullest potential in a top quality organization that Southern California has never seen.

With an aim to develop world-class soccer players across Southern California, this historic partnership brings together Surf Cup Sports — a world class event and brand management firm, with a legendary youth club, West Coast Futbol Club — which has earned 4 USYS and 1 ECNL National Championships and is routinely ranked among the top 10 clubs in the nation. This partnership tracks a trend in the past 5 years of clubs and brands coming together to pool resources in order to provide a true development pathway for the best soccer players in a region.

“As soccer in the United States continues to evolve, we as an organization continue to look to increase our value proposition to our players and families,” said Girls VP Nick Cucuk.

“Through this partnership we look forward to aligning the top talent in the county and providing a real pathway for all of our players to compete at the college and professional level,” added Mike Lane Boys VP.

“At Surf Cup Sports, we believe that competitive youth soccer will continue its trajectory of consolidation and overall professionalization of club services. We look forward to welcoming West Coast Futbol Club to our Surf family and providing access to our extensive coaching education and administrative resources,” said Jeremy McDonald, VP Business Development for Surf Cup Sports.

“A partnership with Surf Cup Sports is a natural alliance that will benefit both organizations and all of our members,” said Rick Hough, President of West Coast Futbol Club. “Our Board of Directors’ number one priority is to provide great opportunities for our youth soccer players and take advantage of the changes in the current and future competitive marketplace.”

Founded in 1997, West Coast Futbol Club has consistently ranked highly among youth soccer clubs in IMG Academy Rankings. West Coast Futbol Club is known for a club culture that values superior technical skills, tactical awareness and a possession style of play that is highly prized by college coaches and U.S. Soccer. Orange County Surf Soccer Club participates in the US Soccer Development Academy (USSDA) and in the Elite Clubs National League (ECNL).

Surf Cup Sports was formed in 2012 to manage the iconic summer Surf Cup and winter College Cup and has since won a long-term lease for the 112-acre soccer complex in Del Mar known as Surf Cup Sports Park and now manages the SoCal Sports Park in Oceanside. Surf Cup Sports also manages the Surf brand and provides operational support to Surf clubs as well as the benefits of broader relationships with partners that include Nike, Manchester City FC, Soccer.com and many others.
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Very revealing (maybe not intentionally) of the relationship between Surf Cup Sports and Surf Soccer Club. WC is not merging with Surf, they are merging with Surf Cup Sports.
 
espola said:
Very revealing (maybe not intentionally) of the relationship between Surf Cup Sports and Surf Soccer Club. WC is not merging with Surf, they are merging with Surf Cup Sports.
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I agree with E for once. I had heard the relationship was going to be different than from the other affiliates. I also heard that they are actively looking for clubs even closer to home and the deal would require the best players go to the Polo Fields, although I am not sure how families would buy into something like this.

I wonder what is going to happen to the West Coast coaches. Will they be required to go to San Diego? West Coast has a lot of great coaches irrespective of the number of A licenses they have. I also believe that WC pays their coaches more. Will that be affected because I know of a lot of clubs that would kill for some of the WC coaches that defect.
 
What we have in the US right now is an anti competitive anti competition climate. US Soccer rather than creating a climate of competition with ECNL, SCDSL etc in our country fractured it with its DA league. The Federations mandate is to facilitate the growth of Soccer for all. Not just the ones that it seems worthy. It has no business operating a puppet regime under the false flags of non profit 501C3 clubs a closed league that disincentives large portions of the country while lining its pockets with cash from the very consumers it is tasked with serving. These clubs like Surf, Rush, etc are essentially corporations that rather than compete with smller market clubs use there leverage and power and to consume them to remove competition from the market place and thus can further artificially inflate club fees, tournament fees, field access, travel and hotel monies and yes even acces to who plays and who doesn’t. This will continue and has already played out in college sports with mega conferences Like the Power 5 gobbling up Universities to further their geographic footprint and create cable channels Big 10 network, longhorn tv, Pac 12, etc. So far 3 NWSL teams have folded and been absorbed by MLS clubs. NASL is currently suing US Soccer for D2 sanctioning stays that US is denying them. Small independent clubs FC Cincinnati, NY Cosmos, etc are being forced out of the market place not by consumers or inferior Soccer but by US Soccer denying access to sanctioning them. The same tactics are seen with youth club Soccer. This does not grow the game but further erodes local small market clubs the serves the people and players in that community. This is not a conspiracy it’s not fiction, it’s reality, and starts with US Soccer.
 
Nutmeg said:
What we have in the US right now is an anti competitive anti competition climate. US Soccer rather than creating a climate of competition with ECNL, SCDSL etc in our country fractured it with its DA league. The Federations mandate is to facilitate the growth of Soccer for all. Not just the ones that it seems worthy. It has no business operating a puppet regime under the false flags of non profit 501C3 clubs a closed league that disincentives large portions of the country while lining its pockets with cash from the very consumers it is tasked with serving. These clubs like Surf, Rush, etc are essentially corporations that rather than compete with smller market clubs use there leverage and power and to consume them to remove competition from the market place and thus can further artificially inflate club fees, tournament fees, field access, travel and hotel monies and yes even acces to who plays and who doesn’t. This will continue and has already played out in college sports with mega conferences Like the Power 5 gobbling up Universities to further their geographic footprint and create cable channels Big 10 network, longhorn tv, Pac 12, etc. So far 3 NWSL teams have folded and been absorbed by MLS clubs. NASL is currently suing US Soccer for D2 sanctioning stays that US is denying them. Small independent clubs FC Cincinnati, NY Cosmos, etc are being forced out of the market place not by consumers or inferior Soccer but by US Soccer denying access to sanctioning them. The same tactics are seen with youth club Soccer. This does not grow the game but further erodes local small market clubs the serves the people and players in that community. This is not a conspiracy it’s not fiction, it’s reality, and starts with US Soccer.
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I hate to agree with you because I am pro business, hate claims of conspiracies and monopolies but you nailed it.
 
Out of fairness I will say that Surf is not the only mega club gobbling up other clubs, they are just doing more of it in our backyard.
 
It's tough to see a club like WCFC being absorbed by a larger one. Have appreciated them from afar for many a reason. Won't be the same anymore.
 
Socal United said:
Next up, Del Mar Sharks.....
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If that is a guess, I think it is pretty good. I was wondering why Surf would allow Sharks to get ECNL without a fight when they had a monopoly on San Diego for so long.

Now I wonder how Sharks voted on the issue of letting Surf back into Presidio.
 
Nutmeg said:
What we have in the US right now is an anti competitive anti competition climate. US Soccer rather than creating a climate of competition with ECNL, SCDSL etc in our country fractured it with its DA league. The Federations mandate is to facilitate the growth of Soccer for all. Not just the ones that it seems worthy. It has no business operating a puppet regime under the false flags of non profit 501C3 clubs a closed league that disincentives large portions of the country while lining its pockets with cash from the very consumers it is tasked with serving. These clubs like Surf, Rush, etc are essentially corporations that rather than compete with smller market clubs use there leverage and power and to consume them to remove competition from the market place and thus can further artificially inflate club fees, tournament fees, field access, travel and hotel monies and yes even acces to who plays and who doesn’t. This will continue and has already played out in college sports with mega conferences Like the Power 5 gobbling up Universities to further their geographic footprint and create cable channels Big 10 network, longhorn tv, Pac 12, etc. So far 3 NWSL teams have folded and been absorbed by MLS clubs. NASL is currently suing US Soccer for D2 sanctioning stays that US is denying them. Small independent clubs FC Cincinnati, NY Cosmos, etc are being forced out of the market place not by consumers or inferior Soccer but by US Soccer denying access to sanctioning them. The same tactics are seen with youth club Soccer. This does not grow the game but further erodes local small market clubs the serves the people and players in that community. This is not a conspiracy it’s not fiction, it’s reality, and starts with US Soccer.
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You are so right!! This trend will continue for years to come. As long as you have middle and upper class parents who continue to drive the revenue stream, there is no way to stop this money grab. Irony is that the very people who fund this charade are, for the most part, parents with children who will NEVER make it to the big game. Only in Club Soccer do you see people buying into the whole "pathway to something..." bullsh*t. I have never seen a professional athlete from any sport that I am familiar with that needed someone else to provide them with a pathway to anything. Mostly just people or organizations getting in their way, on their way, to the big leagues. If there is one thing I have noticed over the years, it is that the unicorns make their own path and do their own thing. In fact, it is usually all the uptight do gooders screaming "don't be that parent" that are too blind to see that top talent doesn't need anyone to create a pathway for them.

There is so much broken with the system in the US that it is to the point where we need to scrap the whole thing and replace it with something completely different but I realize that won't happen.
 
Fact said:
If that is a guess, I think it is pretty good. I was wondering why Surf would allow Sharks to get ECNL without a fight when they had a monopoly on San Diego for so long.

Now I wonder how Sharks voted on the issue of letting Surf back into Presidio.
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Not a guess
 
Nutmeg said:
What we have in the US right now is an anti competitive anti competition climate. US Soccer rather than creating a climate of competition with ECNL, SCDSL etc in our country fractured it with its DA league. The Federations mandate is to facilitate the growth of Soccer for all. Not just the ones that it seems worthy. It has no business operating a puppet regime under the false flags of non profit 501C3 clubs a closed league that disincentives large portions of the country while lining its pockets with cash from the very consumers it is tasked with serving. These clubs like Surf, Rush, etc are essentially corporations that rather than compete with smller market clubs use there leverage and power and to consume them to remove competition from the market place and thus can further artificially inflate club fees, tournament fees, field access, travel and hotel monies and yes even acces to who plays and who doesn’t. This will continue and has already played out in college sports with mega conferences Like the Power 5 gobbling up Universities to further their geographic footprint and create cable channels Big 10 network, longhorn tv, Pac 12, etc. So far 3 NWSL teams have folded and been absorbed by MLS clubs. NASL is currently suing US Soccer for D2 sanctioning stays that US is denying them. Small independent clubs FC Cincinnati, NY Cosmos, etc are being forced out of the market place not by consumers or inferior Soccer but by US Soccer denying access to sanctioning them. The same tactics are seen with youth club Soccer. This does not grow the game but further erodes local small market clubs the serves the people and players in that community. This is not a conspiracy it’s not fiction, it’s reality, and starts with US Soccer.
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Well done, if these merges, consolidations, affiliations and all these other cross agreements where audited or sanctioned some would not get approved or loose there's status, but it's the wild west, whoever has the bigger or faster guns wins.

#Dos Equis there you have...a former community club taken over by a pusedo corporation run by lawyers and bankers so they can make "no profit". The like to work for free, no profit motivation at all as a result there continues to be fewer community clubs as the the mega pusedo corps further gobble up the competition and put those to work that helped them with the "conflicts" of interest.
 
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