SD Surf putting youngers in sdda/presidio?

Sped said:
At what ages do Surf teams play below "most Matrix teams"? In fact, find me a girls' team at any age at Surf that plays at a division lower than most Matrix teams.

Note - not a knock on Matrix.
Click to expand...
More boys than girls, but the following "highly competitive and accomplished youth soccer players" played in Cal South's Mayor (aka Recreational ) Division:
F4

IE SURF B08 BARBIERA WEST

G4

Anaheim Surf - B2008 Viviano

O2

SD Surf Academy Boys (Kavanagh) 2008

P3

IE SURF B08 URBANO J

Q2

SD Surf Academy Boys (Whiddon) 2008


B3

Murrieta Surf B07 Blue

F4

IE SURF B07 PETERS

K3

SD Surf Academy Boys (Huerta) 2007


B4

Anaheim Surf - B2006 Viviano


D3

IE SURF G08 URBANO J

J2

Murrieta Surf G08 Black


E4

Murrieta Surf G07 White


F2

IE SURF G06 PARK
 
TCD said:
Why are you lumping all the Surf affiliates in your attempt to bash San Diego Surf teams level of play? This post is about San Diego Surf, not I.E., Anaheim, Murrieta, etc.
Click to expand...

Are you suggesting that they just bought the name?
 
TCD said:
Why are you lumping all the Surf affiliates in your attempt to bash San Diego Surf teams level of play? This post is about San Diego Surf, not I.E., Anaheim, Murrieta, etc.
Click to expand...
Sorry, here's the list of "highly competitive and accomplished youth soccer players" that were too good for Presidio, some of which are (understandably) sick of losing by double digit shutouts in season after driving to Orange County, that played in Cal South's Mayor (aka Recreational ) Division*:
SD Surf Academy Boys (Kavanagh) 2008
SD Surf Academy Boys (Whiddon%) 2008
SD Surf Academy Boys (Huerta) 2007

*Per parents of said teams.
% Whiddon's older boys also get blown out by lowly AA-B Presidio teams.
 
TCD said:
I don't understand what your point is? Isn't this thread about San Diego Surf/Presidio League?
Click to expand...

I am shocked!! at the suggestion that all those other "Surfs" don't practice the same level of training and administration (to put it politely) as the mother church.
 
coachrefparent said:
Sorry, here's the list of "highly competitive and accomplished youth soccer players" that were too good for Presidio, some of which are (understandably) sick of losing by double digit shutouts in season after driving to Orange County, that played in Cal South's Mayor (aka Recreational ) Division*:
SD Surf Academy Boys (Kavanagh) 2008
SD Surf Academy Boys (Whiddon%) 2008
SD Surf Academy Boys (Huerta) 2007

*Per parents of said teams.
% Whiddon's older boys also get blown out by lowly AA-B Presidio teams.
Click to expand...

One of those 2008 teams had a kid who did kartwheels after every goal he scored. Coach did nothing.
 
Round said:
It has been almost 4 years, but I believe they did it abruptly, and we're not real nice about it.
-claimed Presidio had anti-competitive policies
-competition in SD was not good enough
-something about SDDA, can't remember what.
Click to expand...


I had heard that the Surf left Presidio because the league frowned on them for poaching players from other local clubs. The surf considered that anti-competitive. Times have changed and almost all clubs steal player these days so it's normal practice. Any way I think the mighty Surf realizes that the competition is not that much better outside of San Diego.
 
Supermodel56 said:
Where do you get $5k/year? just curious... that seems pretty outrageous... and at youngers? And hehe, if I paid that much damn right I'd put that sticker on my car! =)
Click to expand...

Actually its more like $2,500 for the little ones after fees. That's still pretty expensive sticker, but if it makes your kid feel like a million why not.
 
SahaNC said:
I had heard that the Surf left Presidio because the league frowned on them for poaching players from other local clubs. The surf considered that anti-competitive. Times have changed and almost all clubs steal player these days so it's normal practice. Any way I think the mighty Surf realizes that the competition is not that much better outside of San Diego.
Click to expand...
Surf left Presidio because they said the competition wasn't good enough. Then Surf realized how much money they could make charging $2,500 for rec-level kids that they put on teams with the name "Academy." Problem was, these "Academy" teams were recreational level, got beat to a pulp in Coast, and played State Cup (so the kids could get sweatshirts), in the recreational Mayors level.

Parents and kids didn't like losing all the time by double digits after driving up to OC. So after badmouthing Presidio on the way out, they came slinking back to get these money machines, errr academy teams, games that were local and at their level. Presidio said, no thanks.
 
tugs said:
Probably received a lot of complaints from parents for having to drive their u-littles for games in Camarillo, Calabassas, etc... Plenty of good teams down/around SD. For once logic prevails.
Click to expand...
Tugs is right. Especially at the younger ages and especially for girls, there were less teams. So at least when Surf left, SCDSL at for example the Girls U8 teams, there was no division for south, north, east ...teams. Some mediocre U8 and U9 teams wound up driving way past the OC.

The move was generated by Presidio's new rules on poaching players and coaches. At that time Surf had just started to grow again (because they were not sure if they were going to be able to continue using the Polo Fields some age groups only had 1 team until the issue was resolved). I think the biggest concern was actually poaching coaches since Presidio had restricted coaches moving to a new club from coaching the same age group. The player poaching rules did not change that much within Presidio since CalSouth had their own rules.

However, the way Surf presented it to parents (after they paid for the season) was that it was done for the players (i.e. better competition). Everyone knew this was a joke since their best teams at the older ages already played SCDSL and their lower teams were getting killed in Presidio.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top