Congrats to all the girls!
1. Congratulations to those selected.
2. As the parent of an 06 who made the final team last year, be sure to ask "Are they going to have a 2007 division at ODP championships?" There was no 2006 division last year and they gave our girls "the opportunity" to try out for the traveling 2005 team. I was very salty about how the whole thing went down. I'm not advising you to not participate, but if I knew the team was basically just for bragging rights (except for the 4 2006s that made the 2005 team) I would have approached it differently. If you're interested there's a thread about it on the 2006 board.
3. Final thing, my daughter had fun trying out in the spring, fun attending summer camp, and approached this season focused and confident. If your daughter tries out and didn't make it, don't sweat it. ODP scouts and coaches miss plenty of good players and have a bias towards big, strong and fast players. Good luck!
Salty because:Salty about getting extra training for your player? Sounds like you are looking at the short game not the long game. Your player is 11 or 12 years old (a ULittle). You have so much further to go. The players that make the cut at 11/12 don't necessarily turn into the best players in college. There were even players that made the first Region IV team the first year that aren't even playing soccer anymore. Extra training with other good players IMHO never hurts.
I believe they also look at National & CRL. I too would like to know more about the complete process.The process used to select the ODP crop seems flawed. Not sure how watching one or two games at State Cup is enough to determine the top 100 players. Perhaps there is also feedback gathered from coaches. If a coach is also an ODP scout, is that a conflict of interest where he/she may selfishly recommend players from his/her club? Obviously, I don't know the complete process and I don't know if I can come up with a better one.
Interesting perspective, can you elaborate more on your thoughts?Frankly, the 2007 ODP selection process and subsequent list was pathetic...it shows Cal South offers a path to nowhere and has been rendered irrelevant to youth soccer's national strategy.
How would you interpret: no coach and/or club director input; no season or top tournaments scouting; all state cup teams with near equal number of player representation; scouts observed watching half of game at best?Interesting perspective, can you elaborate more on your thoughts?
I agree with you regarding the scouting, I’m sure it’s difficult to get around to each and every club team throughout southern CA so they probably settle on heading to the top level at State Cup or National Cup and make decisions based on what they see. I am sure many kids were missed that are well deserving to be on the list. I do think your opinion on the “list” is pretty ridiculous. Do you know all the girls on that list? Are you The expert that could have chosen a better group of kids? Disagree all you want, be upset if there are girls missing from the list that you expected to be on it but stop discrediting the young ladies that obviously impressed someone and that deserve to have this opportunity. You sound petty and bitter.How would you interpret: no coach and/or club director input; no season or top tournaments scouting; all state cup teams with near equal number of player representation; scouts observed watching half of game at best?
It was a non serious and lazy selection effort. Not sure what Cal South intended to achieve...but a "best of the best" list it is not.
You start by making my point...then disappointingly stoop to going personal, which directly speaks to you.I agree with you regarding the scouting, I’m sure it’s difficult to get around to each and every club team throughout southern CA so they probably settle on heading to the top level at State Cup or National Cup and make decisions based on what they see. I am sure many kids were missed that are well deserving to be on the list. I do think your opinion on the “list” is pretty ridiculous. Do you know all the girls on that list? Are you The expert that could have chosen a better group of kids? Disagree all you want, be upset if there are girls missing from the list that you expected to be on it but stop discrediting the young ladies that obviously impressed someone and that deserve to have this opportunity. You sound petty and bitter.
Sure, to be paid for by the many not-so-much others on a road to nowhere...funny how that works. Also, legit ballers are DA.For supposedly having a lack of scouting and lazy selecting efforts they sure as hell picked a bunch of top notch players. Im sure someone's DD was short changed and left off. But don't get it twisted that list is full of legit ballers.
Sure, to be paid for by the many not-so-much others on a road to nowhere...funny how that works. Also, legit ballers are DA.
...and for the same reason not all will be able to play club soccer, what's your point?Due to travel and cost issues, not all "legit ballers" will be able to play DA.
...and for the same reason not all will be able to play club soccer, what's your point?
How would you interpret: no coach and/or club director input; no season or top tournaments scouting; all state cup teams with near equal number of player representation; scouts observed watching half of game at best?
It was a non serious and lazy selection effort. Not sure what Cal South intended to achieve...but a "best of the best" list it is not.
Your propensity to go personal speaks much more of you than I, which is unfortunate. However, this is not about me or my kid, she's on the list. Rather, my opinions and points are directed at the lack of effort, process and relevance of Cal South and this program to the national youth soccer strategy. I have seen all the teams represented on the ODP List play many times and I don't know about you, but I clearly did not observe 3-5 elite or "Pro+" players on each team. Generally speaking, as the saying goes: 'If everyone is elite/"Pro+", then no one is.'How is there no coach or club director input? It's on the cal south website for anyone with a computer to access.
http://media.calsouth.com/data/Downloads/ProPlus/Pro_Recommendation_Form.pdf?rev=130F
I don't know that their process is great, but it seems more like lazy research of the process on your behalf, or you have a lazy coach or director who didn't take the time to recommend players. Maybe take up your gripe with them.