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Sheriff Joe said:
Liberals are and always have been the party of racism.
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I wouldn’t know about that... I think most are very well meaning good people who want to do the right thing. But then they hear the activists and/or media and their intentionally emotional (manipulative) stories who will spin anything (lie) to achieve their narrow minded goal, not knowing any better they fall for it instead of taking it as a data point and then digging deeper to see the big picture in context.

Because liberals lack the ability to critically think, you’ll see them resort to name calling, one word blanket responses, blaming racism, criticize solutions without providing their own ideas/solutions. Or, the worst is they’ll propose solutions that make things worse.

Prime example, in this forum, they want to help the poor kids and complain about how they don’t have enough resources. They complain about large class sizes and not enough books. Yet, they are against stopping illegal immigration.

Let’s stop here: The liberal activist spin is that conservatives are against immigrants - that is FALSE. Nobody is against immigrants. There is a big difference between legal and illegal immigration. The keyword is ILLEGAL and conservatives are simply against activities that fall outside the legal system or manipulates it.

Why? The US wants to be a responsible country and as such, we want to make sure the resources are in place to support incoming immigrants - Medicare, food stamps, housing, etc... it would be irresponsible to let someone come into the country without assuring they will have a place to live, be able to provide for themselves, won’t starve, kids have access to school, won’t end up on the street, will have a job available, basic needs, etc... it costs taxpayers significantly to support this and that is why we have a budget and limit the number of immigrants. Exceptions to this process include H1B visas where companies take responsibility for making sure these folks are taken care of.

When people come here illegally, they are outside the budget - they still need resources, jobs, their kids attend schools, etc...

Back to my point - liberals, where do you think the illegal immigrants go when they come here? They’re not moving into upper middle class neighborhoods, not mine, nor yours. They’re moving into the poor ones. So guess what?!? You basically just screwed the poor kids you claim to care so much about. That poor kid who is here legally now has to share class ratio, books, Medicare budget, lunch programs, WIC, etc... with the kids there illegally thereby straining existing resources even more. It’s basically stealing from the poor. And guess what, those kids here illegally are going to compete for college entrance with the same poor kids who are here legally and trying to get out of their situation.

I’ll even venture to say this, the illegal kids are probably going to outperform them - why? Because they have a different mindset, they and their parents are here for opportunity and for a better life. These kids are much different from the kids who grew up from generations of poverty, drug use, etc... who have the mindset that being poor is their destiny.

So no, I don’t have any problem with illegal immigrants themselves as people, I don’t blame them at all, but they are stealing from the REAL poor kids, making it even harder for them to get out and for us to solve the problem of poverty in this country. They are also stealing in the sense that the government looks at the employment rate and assesses how many workers the economy needs and how many we need to keep employed - this is another factor in determining how many people we let in. These illegal immigrants are largely uneducated, so the first gen will effectively be stealing jobs from the same poor neighborhoods our own citizens that we are responsible for.

Just like giving bonus points for the SAT to offset poverty, allowing/encouraging illegal immigration is a bad solution that only creates new problems.
 
Justafan said:
You are not being intellectually honest. There is no discrimination whatsoever. It just puts kids of all races, creeds, and colors, in their proper perspective.
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Why do we need to be put in our proper perspective? Maybe the reason that some of us came here and have thrived is the opportunity that this country has offered us. It is about choices, and some of those are difficult but doesn't change facts. Like probably everyone else on this board, I can look up and down my street and know, because I have lived there for a couple of decades and know all the families and watched the kids growing up, what choices were made that lead to their station in life. Based on what I think you may have said in a previous thread, we may even be neighbors but I don't believe in excuses. Still came down to choices and I can almost guarantee, that my kids will not live in the same neighborhood that I live and will have much different life choices to make than those that I had to make. Different social economic station just means different problems. I don't usually agree with supermodel but I do agree that it always seems like middle class white people feel the need to speak up about racism and privilege like they feel guilty about something. Funny that these fakers only feel guilty enough to go overboard to try to convince people they aren't racist but never had a white lady offer to give my kids a ride to or from a game or tournament. All I know is that my kids better not start talking that trash when they get older. I have had to bust my ass and make unbelievable sacrifices for them to have the lives that is there in front of them now for the taking. If white people feel so guilty that they feel the need to talk about it, then man up and offer to switch places with them. Go take your ass to our neighborhoods and learn to navigate the crime and violence that we live with everyday. It would make me sick to look down 50 years from now and hear my descendants talking about privilege. I'll reach down from the heavens and smack the sh*t out of them.
 
El Clasico said:
Why do we need to be put in our proper perspective? Maybe the reason that some of us came here and have thrived is the opportunity that this country has offered us. It is about choices, and some of those are difficult but doesn't change facts. Like probably everyone else on this board, I can look up and down my street and know, because I have lived there for a couple of decades and know all the families and watched the kids growing up, what choices were made that lead to their station in life. Based on what I think you may have said in a previous thread, we may even be neighbors but I don't believe in excuses. Still came down to choices and I can almost guarantee, that my kids will not live in the same neighborhood that I live and will have much different life choices to make than those that I had to make. Different social economic station just means different problems. I don't usually agree with supermodel but I do agree that it always seems like middle class white people feel the need to speak up about racism and privilege like they feel guilty about something. Funny that these fakers only feel guilty enough to go overboard to try to convince people they aren't racist but never had a white lady offer to give my kids a ride to or from a game or tournament. All I know is that my kids better not start talking that trash when they get older. I have had to bust my ass and make unbelievable sacrifices for them to have the lives that is there in front of them now for the taking. If white people feel so guilty that they feel the need to talk about it, then man up and offer to switch places with them. Go take your ass to our neighborhoods and learn to navigate the crime and violence that we live with everyday. It would make me sick to look down 50 years from now and hear my descendants talking about privilege. I'll reach down from the heavens and smack the sh*t out of them.
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All we can hope for is our kids do better than us, no matter what color you are.
 
Supermodel56 said:
I wouldn’t know about that... I think most are very well meaning good people who want to do the right thing. But then they hear the activists and/or media and their intentionally emotional (manipulative) stories who will spin anything (lie) to achieve their narrow minded goal, not knowing any better they fall for it instead of taking it as a data point and then digging deeper to see the big picture in context.

Because liberals lack the ability to critically think, you’ll see them resort to name calling, one word blanket responses, blaming racism, criticize solutions without providing their own ideas/solutions. Or, the worst is they’ll propose solutions that make things worse.

Prime example, in this forum, they want to help the poor kids and complain about how they don’t have enough resources. They complain about large class sizes and not enough books. Yet, they are against stopping illegal immigration.

Let’s stop here: The liberal activist spin is that conservatives are against immigrants - that is FALSE. Nobody is against immigrants. There is a big difference between legal and illegal immigration. The keyword is ILLEGAL and conservatives are simply against activities that fall outside the legal system or manipulates it.

Why? The US wants to be a responsible country and as such, we want to make sure the resources are in place to support incoming immigrants - Medicare, food stamps, housing, etc... it would be irresponsible to let someone come into the country without assuring they will have a place to live, be able to provide for themselves, won’t starve, kids have access to school, won’t end up on the street, will have a job available, basic needs, etc... it costs taxpayers significantly to support this and that is why we have a budget and limit the number of immigrants. Exceptions to this process include H1B visas where companies take responsibility for making sure these folks are taken care of.

When people come here illegally, they are outside the budget - they still need resources, jobs, their kids attend schools, etc...

Back to my point - liberals, where do you think the illegal immigrants go when they come here? They’re not moving into upper middle class neighborhoods, not mine, nor yours. They’re moving into the poor ones. So guess what?!? You basically just screwed the poor kids you claim to care so much about. That poor kid who is here legally now has to share class ratio, books, Medicare budget, lunch programs, WIC, etc... with the kids there illegally thereby straining existing resources even more. It’s basically stealing from the poor. And guess what, those kids here illegally are going to compete for college entrance with the same poor kids who are here legally and trying to get out of their situation.

I’ll even venture to say this, the illegal kids are probably going to outperform them - why? Because they have a different mindset, they and their parents are here for opportunity and for a better life. These kids are much different from the kids who grew up from generations of poverty, drug use, etc... who have the mindset that being poor is their destiny.

So no, I don’t have any problem with illegal immigrants themselves as people, I don’t blame them at all, but they are stealing from the REAL poor kids, making it even harder for them to get out and for us to solve the problem of poverty in this country. They are also stealing in the sense that the government looks at the employment rate and assesses how many workers the economy needs and how many we need to keep employed - this is another factor in determining how many people we let in. These illegal immigrants are largely uneducated, so the first gen will effectively be stealing jobs from the same poor neighborhoods our own citizens that we are responsible for.

Just like giving bonus points for the SAT to offset poverty, allowing/encouraging illegal immigration is a bad solution that only creates new problems.
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I’m not allowed in this thread but this post is something special. You have a lot of self hate chica. You aren’t anywhere close to the real money yet you act like you are better than the “hood” that you allegedly escaped from.

Keep drinking the kool aid while they look at you just like the rest of the the “mud” people. You aren’t fooling anyone other than yourself. Let me guess you married into The man’s household now you think that you are one of them.

Sad.
 
MakeAPlay said:
I’m not allowed in this thread but this post is something special. You have a lot of self hate chica. You aren’t anywhere close to the real money yet you act like you are better than the “hood” that you allegedly escaped from.

Keep drinking the kool aid while they look at you just like the rest of the the “mud” people. You aren’t fooling anyone other than yourself. Let me guess you married into The man’s household now you think that you are one of them.

Sad.
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You sure make a lot of assumptions and accusations for someone who has no rebuttal and completely unable to dispute my argument with any facts whatsoever. Please do point out where my explanation was amiss on the net effect of illegal immigration in poor communities... or is name calling all you got?

I’m damn well proud of not just who I am today but where I came from and I can tell you this, sure life isn’t always fair, but unlike you, I don’t make excuses and that was the difference. Everyone has power over their own destiny, you can’t move forward until you let go of the past.

I’m more than happy to have an intellectual debate if you’d like, but as said before, anytime a liberal is called out, they claim you’re a racist, an Uncle Tom, bigot, repeat their sob story for sympathy, whatever... to avoid actually having a productive discussion or risk having to admit their own role in their predicament.
 
I always loved the concept of "white privilege". My parents both worked their asses off and put themselves through a masters program. Worked 50-60 hour weeks while I was a latch key kid. Then I started working 20-30 hours per week in high school, while playing sports, and continued that same load through college... paying 90% of my own tuition. Then I worked 50-60 hours per week as an adult for the "privilege" of paying full price for my kid's college because they're white and I earn too much money.

Yeah... some fucking privilege.
 
Supermodel56 said:
I wouldn’t know about that... I think most are very well meaning good people who want to do the right thing. But then they hear the activists and/or media and their intentionally emotional (manipulative) stories who will spin anything (lie) to achieve their narrow minded goal, not knowing any better they fall for it instead of taking it as a data point and then digging deeper to see the big picture in context.

Because liberals lack the ability to critically think, you’ll see them resort to name calling, one word blanket responses, blaming racism, criticize solutions without providing their own ideas/solutions. Or, the worst is they’ll propose solutions that make things worse.

Prime example, in this forum, they want to help the poor kids and complain about how they don’t have enough resources. They complain about large class sizes and not enough books. Yet, they are against stopping illegal immigration.

Let’s stop here: The liberal activist spin is that conservatives are against immigrants - that is FALSE. Nobody is against immigrants. There is a big difference between legal and illegal immigration. The keyword is ILLEGAL and conservatives are simply against activities that fall outside the legal system or manipulates it.

Why? The US wants to be a responsible country and as such, we want to make sure the resources are in place to support incoming immigrants - Medicare, food stamps, housing, etc... it would be irresponsible to let someone come into the country without assuring they will have a place to live, be able to provide for themselves, won’t starve, kids have access to school, won’t end up on the street, will have a job available, basic needs, etc... it costs taxpayers significantly to support this and that is why we have a budget and limit the number of immigrants. Exceptions to this process include H1B visas where companies take responsibility for making sure these folks are taken care of.

When people come here illegally, they are outside the budget - they still need resources, jobs, their kids attend schools, etc...

Back to my point - liberals, where do you think the illegal immigrants go when they come here? They’re not moving into upper middle class neighborhoods, not mine, nor yours. They’re moving into the poor ones. So guess what?!? You basically just screwed the poor kids you claim to care so much about. That poor kid who is here legally now has to share class ratio, books, Medicare budget, lunch programs, WIC, etc... with the kids there illegally thereby straining existing resources even more. It’s basically stealing from the poor. And guess what, those kids here illegally are going to compete for college entrance with the same poor kids who are here legally and trying to get out of their situation.

I’ll even venture to say this, the illegal kids are probably going to outperform them - why? Because they have a different mindset, they and their parents are here for opportunity and for a better life. These kids are much different from the kids who grew up from generations of poverty, drug use, etc... who have the mindset that being poor is their destiny.

So no, I don’t have any problem with illegal immigrants themselves as people, I don’t blame them at all, but they are stealing from the REAL poor kids, making it even harder for them to get out and for us to solve the problem of poverty in this country. They are also stealing in the sense that the government looks at the employment rate and assesses how many workers the economy needs and how many we need to keep employed - this is another factor in determining how many people we let in. These illegal immigrants are largely uneducated, so the first gen will effectively be stealing jobs from the same poor neighborhoods our own citizens that we are responsible for.

Just like giving bonus points for the SAT to offset poverty, allowing/encouraging illegal immigration is a bad solution that only creates new problems.
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Well said. I’ll add that not one ILLEGAL immigrant should get a dime of support or taxpayer funded handouts as long as we have U.S. citizens and/or Veterans in need. Totally support LEGAL immigration.
 
Supermodel56 said:
You sure make a lot of assumptions and accusations for someone who has no rebuttal and completely unable to dispute my argument with any facts whatsoever. Please do point out where my explanation was amiss on the net effect of illegal immigration in poor communities... or is name calling all you got?

I’m damn well proud of not just who I am today but where I came from and I can tell you this, sure life isn’t always fair, but unlike you, I don’t make excuses and that was the difference. Everyone has power over their own destiny, you can’t move forward until you let go of the past.

I’m more than happy to have an intellectual debate if you’d like, but as said before, anytime a liberal is called out, they claim you’re a racist, an Uncle Tom, bigot, repeat their sob story for sympathy, whatever... to avoid actually having a productive discussion or risk having to admit their own role in their predicament.
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You're not a racist, you've just convinced yourself that your situation was the worse it can get and since you were able to pull yourself into a better financial life, you expect that others should too. What you fail to see, is that you didn't have it as bad as many people out there. As a friend of mine once said...I thought I had it bad until I knew your story. I told him, I'm one of the luckier people I know.

As for your argument - it's flawed bc you're not willing to look at the finances , WE (liberals, conservatives and moderates) as a country use to fight illegal immigration. That money - could be spent helping illegal immigrants, which would make us more humane and follow the teachings of Christ. Look at Europe...why do you think an open border method was created with the European Union? They realized they were spending a lot of money trying to keep people out when the net financial benefit would be better if they help make it easier for people to move around.
A lot of illegal immigrants work and pay taxes as they generally use other people's social security numbers, but are not able to collect a tax refund from the number they use bc it's illegal. A lot of illegal immigrants spend money on food, housing, clothes, etc...putting money into our government with sales tax, putting money into US citizen landlords, pay for jobs in clothes manufacturing, etc.... Illegal immigrants do not utilize benefits and are not drain resources from the poor communities bc they can't qualify for those programs. Take a look at the states and counties that utilize the most federal assistance...they're red states.

As for the name calling - don't call someone's opinion asinine if you want to debate issues rationally. This whole country needs to stop calling each other liberals and conservatives as if they're bad words or insulting words. We have different ways of looking at how to solve the same issues and instead of working together, we choose to fight each other to the death. Watch our kids on the soccer pitch...we tell them to work with each other as a team bc each player has their own abilities and areas to cover, but outside of soccer, we set ourselves up as opposing forces. We're not. We're a team. Liberals are attackers and go full force to try to score, conservatives want to protect the goal more, and moderates are our midfielders.

The media is just representative of the US as a country what we want to see on TV. They do it for ratings and money. Do not blame the media for anything, blame ourselves - take responsibility. Currently we are all the media bc we choose to voice our opinion on a public forum, even with our thumbs up and thumbs down.
 
Emma said:
You're not a racist, you've just convinced yourself that your situation was the worse it can get and since you were able to pull yourself into a better financial life, you expect that others should too. What you fail to see, is that you didn't have it as bad as many people out there. As a friend of mine once said...I thought I had it bad until I knew your story. I told him, I'm one of the luckier people I know.

As for your argument - it's flawed bc you're not willing to look at the finances , WE (liberals, conservatives and moderates) as a country use to fight illegal immigration. That money - could be spent helping illegal immigrants, which would make us more humane and follow the teachings of Christ. Look at Europe...why do you think an open border method was created with the European Union? They realized they were spending a lot of money trying to keep people out when the net financial benefit would be better if they help make it easier for people to move around.
A lot of illegal immigrants work and pay taxes as they generally use other people's social security numbers, but are not able to collect a tax refund from the number they use bc it's illegal. A lot of illegal immigrants spend money on food, housing, clothes, etc...putting money into our government with sales tax, putting money into US citizen landlords, pay for jobs in clothes manufacturing, etc.... Illegal immigrants do not utilize benefits and are not drain resources from the poor communities bc they can't qualify for those programs. Take a look at the states and counties that utilize the most federal assistance...they're red states.

As for the name calling - don't call someone's opinion asinine if you want to debate issues rationally. This whole country needs to stop calling each other liberals and conservatives as if they're bad words or insulting words. We have different ways of looking at how to solve the same issues and instead of working together, we choose to fight each other to the death. Watch our kids on the soccer pitch...we tell them to work with each other as a team bc each player has their own abilities and areas to cover, but outside of soccer, we set ourselves up as opposing forces. We're not. We're a team. Liberals are attackers and go full force to try to score, conservatives want to protect the goal more, and moderates are our midfielders.

The media is just representative of the US as a country what we want to see on TV. They do it for ratings and money. Do not blame the media for anything, blame ourselves - take responsibility. Currently we are all the media bc we choose to voice our opinion on a public forum, even with our thumbs up and thumbs down.
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Finally a decent argument without name calling. Thank you. Will address one at a time.

For one, I do recognize that I had it better than many others. But that doesn’t mean I don’t know what it takes to get out or that I don’t know many friends who had it much worse than me. You can always say someone had it worse. But that doesn’t make me out of touch. In my younger days when I had more time I’d spent hours at the soup kitchen every other month just sitting on the curb listening to these homeless guys tell their story, it’s weird but for some reason I always felt like one day I could very well be homeless - I had a heart for them and wanted to serve. I’ve volunteered in inner city schools as well as well as missions projects in TJ.

If there’s one thing I’ve learned, it comes down to this and it’s the same for everyone - do you want it and are you willing to do what it takes? Nothing else matters.

If you listen to homeless guys, they’ll tell their story and it’s usually like, this bad thing happened... and then I started doing drugs... first off, doing drugs was a choice and that choice is why they’re in the condition they’re in. But here’s the other thing - there are so many resources to help the homeless get out of their situation. The reality is they always say one day they’ll get back on their feet, but rarely do, because they never want it bad enough to get help, get clean, stay clean. They’re simply not willing to do what it takes. I could sit with a guy for weeks, months, try to talk him into making a change, but unless he really wanted to, no amount of time nor resources would make it better. In fact it made it worse because now he saw it as my responsibility to get him out, not his.

The real disadvantage for inner city kids isn’t the resources. It’s that they just don’t know and/or they don’t take their situation seriously. Nobody tells them that they don’t have the luxury to screw around and when we do, they don’t listen. Nobody there tells them there’s a “better” world out there and they can get there, but when you tell them, they don’t believe they can. Middle class basic luxuries are things they never knew existed. The real problem they need to own is for most of these kids, when you do tell them, they don’t care and don’t do anything about it. When teachers try to teach, they don’t listen. Their parents just brush it off and just make excuses. Parents think life is hard so they want to let their kids enjoy their childhood for the fullest - basically trading in 18 years of no responsibilities for a lifetime of hardship.

So yeah, while on the one hand you can say the rest of us are privileged, on the other hand, they have full control to escape their situation if they change their mindset, but they choose not to make the change in their lives. They choose not to take education seriously. They choose not to look into how to get those better jobs or get into college. Everything they need to get into a college is there for them - today. They may not get into an Ivy League, but they can easily make it to the middle class and guess what, their kids will have opportunities to get into top schools and the wisdom they’ve gained now get to be passed on to their kids. They just need to break the cycle. Lowering expectations or standards is not the answer. Helping them understand the requirements and benefits of achieving these goals is.
 
Emma said:
You're not a racist, you've just convinced yourself that your situation was the worse it can get and since you were able to pull yourself into a better financial life, you expect that others should too. What you fail to see, is that you didn't have it as bad as many people out there. As a friend of mine once said...I thought I had it bad until I knew your story. I told him, I'm one of the luckier people I know.

As for your argument - it's flawed bc you're not willing to look at the finances , WE (liberals, conservatives and moderates) as a country use to fight illegal immigration. That money - could be spent helping illegal immigrants, which would make us more humane and follow the teachings of Christ. Look at Europe...why do you think an open border method was created with the European Union? They realized they were spending a lot of money trying to keep people out when the net financial benefit would be better if they help make it easier for people to move around.
A lot of illegal immigrants work and pay taxes as they generally use other people's social security numbers, but are not able to collect a tax refund from the number they use bc it's illegal. A lot of illegal immigrants spend money on food, housing, clothes, etc...putting money into our government with sales tax, putting money into US citizen landlords, pay for jobs in clothes manufacturing, etc.... Illegal immigrants do not utilize benefits and are not drain resources from the poor communities bc they can't qualify for those programs. Take a look at the states and counties that utilize the most federal assistance...they're red states.
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I’m sorry but your statements on this are incorrect. The cost to fight illegal immigration pales in comparison to the cost of illegal immigrants on taxpayers - simply because of economies of scale. The cost of a wall is much cheaper than the cost of supporting the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants year after year.

Regarding ineligible for services, they do find their ways, but from first hand experience, the costs are not limited to gov. For example, many of these patients skip out on medical bills - they’ll go in as self pay and then actually leave after receiving services. Yes I have witnessed this and it does contribute to higher medical costs because now you have to take into account unpaid receivables.

Secondly, why don’t we just decide how much we can afford to support immigration and make that the budget so it’s legal? How many do you want to let in? Should we give an open invitation to anyone in Honduras who wants to come over? How much can we afford and how many until it impacts our communities and/or unemployment rates? Are there enough jobs to support their skill sets. Would it be better to fund programs in Honduras to help the people take leadership and improve their communities there as well as economy? Why not just have a process for this so it’s orderly?

The European Union was not about immigration so much as trade. Here are a bunch of European countries adjacent to each other with fairly similar economic status who wanted to make commerce simpler. There are no third world countries in the EU. Hence immigration was free and had no net impact on the economy. Whenever you hear about sending refugees to the EU, you will hear them arguing over who takes how many just the same.
 
Supermodel56 said:
This is asinine. Nice buildings aren’t going to teach your kids how to read and let’s be honest, access to books are not the real issue - it’s mentality. I say each neighborhood should fund their own. Federal funding should be a flat rate per head count - every kid gets the same amount, same treatment. Then, local funding should go to local neighborhoods because those are dollars coming directly from the parents and local neighbors. There is no reason your tax dollars should pay for my kids education and vice versa. If you want to support inner city kids, donate to a non-profit or volunteer your time - I certainly have and people should have a choice as to whether or not they want to support other people’s kids. Don’t like the kids or schools in your neighborhood? Move. Wish you could move but can’t afford to? The reality is you probably should’ve made better life choices - you’ve got no one to blame but yourself. but now it’s time to make the most of what you have. I know plenty of inner city kids who have made it out - there’s really no excuse.

At the end of the day, it’s the parents responsibility to provide for your kids, whether food, education, books, environment, or otherwise. It’s the kid’s responsibility to make the most of his/her education, resources, opportunities or lack thereof - regardless of what the parents do/don’t provide. And if they care, they can and will make it happen - just look at soccer - ever the poorest parents are spending $5-12k a yr on soccer, countless hours at training and private’s - and it’s not like the parents are dropping off, they’re sitting and watching, doing nothing. If they spent that time studying or even the cost of a few private’s for SAT prep, they’d do fine. Sure, expensive tutors may help, but you really don’t need that much to succeed academically and there are plenty of free resources out there, especially online and at your local library. Go into any wealthy school and tell them about how your inner city school doesn’t have books and you would be hard pressed to find a parent who wouldn’t buy your kids the books they need. More likely than not, you’d see the students start a fundraising campaign to raise money for your school. And yet poor kids and families resent them.

Access to resources is not the problem.
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You really think "the poorest parents are spending 5-12k on soccer"?HOW? what poor people do you know, that also have kids in club soccer? Who do you personally know? "Wish you could move but can't afford to? Make better decisions?" You, are seriously what is wrong with this country. Head up your butt, "omg all I got was a head start in the race, why can't everyone else catch up" STUPID. The fact that a FEW make it out of poverty and are able to transcend is not something to brag about. " Go to a wealthy school and ask the parents to buy you books"? Seriously? Why not just distribute the money to all schools so that they can have the resources from the jump? Oh no, you want poor people to come beg your ass so you can then go back and brag to your friends that you "totally helped those poor kids, and you're so totally gracious". As one of the richest nations in the world the US should be ASHAMED that our educational system has such huge disparities. But no, we have people like you who continue to look the other way and take it for granted that since YOU'RE ok, and YOUR KIDS are ok, screw everyone else. GFYS.
You are the 53%. Idiot. I'm blocking your dumb ass, so don't bother responding.
And @Sheriff Joe affirmative action isn't just for black people. I'm blocking your dumb ass too. God forbid your precious snowflakes have to actually compete on a level playing field. WHATEVER WILL THEY DO when the poor folk, and the brown folk, and all the other folk who don't automatically get the benefit of the doubt like your snowflakes do, get to start at the same point and run the same race.
 
Supermodel56 said:
Finally a decent argument without name calling. Thank you. Will address one at a time.



The real disadvantage for inner city kids isn’t the resources. It’s that they just don’t know and/or they don’t take their situation seriously. Nobody tells them that they don’t have the luxury to screw around and when we do, they don’t listen. Nobody there tells them there’s a “better” world out there and they can get there, but when you tell them, they don’t believe they can. Middle class basic luxuries are things they never knew existed. The real problem they need to own is for most of these kids, when you do tell them, they don’t care and don’t do anything about it. When teachers try to teach, they don’t listen. Their parents just brush it off and just make excuses. Parents think life is hard so they want to let their kids enjoy their childhood for the fullest - basically trading in 18 years of no responsibilities for a lifetime of hardship.

So yeah, while on the one hand you can say the rest of us are privileged, on the other hand, they have full control to escape their situation if they change their mindset, but they choose not to make the change in their lives. They choose not to take education seriously. They choose not to look into how to get those better jobs or get into college. Everything they need to get into a college is there for them - today. They may not get into an Ivy League, but they can easily make it to the middle class and guess what, their kids will have opportunities to get into top schools and the wisdom they’ve gained now get to be passed on to their kids. They just need to break the cycle. Lowering expectations or standards is not the answer. Helping them understand the requirements and benefits of achieving these goals is.
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You're an idiot. Full stop. soooooo every other child has the "luxury" to screw around and make mistakes, but a poor child needs to be perfect. A poor child can just change their mindset, and then they will change their entire life huh? It's just that easy huh? Damn why has no one hired you to just fix it? Stupid poor people, if they would just listen to you, their life would be perfect!
 
The Outlaw said:
I always loved the concept of "white privilege". My parents both worked their asses off and put themselves through a masters program. Worked 50-60 hour weeks while I was a latch key kid. Then I started working 20-30 hours per week in high school, while playing sports, and continued that same load through college... paying 90% of my own tuition. Then I worked 50-60 hours per week as an adult for the "privilege" of paying full price for my kid's college because they're white and I earn too much money.

Yeah... some fucking privilege.
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Come on. Do I need to spell it out for you? Privilege doesn't mean you dont have to work hard. privilege means that when you DO work hard, and are, say ready to buy a home, that you don't get directed to 3 "acceptable" neighborhoods in a city; or worse, automatically offered a higher interest rate on your mortgage. its when a white man who shoots up an entire church in South Carolina or San Antonio is taken into custody ALIVE, but a black man selling illegal cigarettes is choked to death on a sidewalk. do you need me to continue breaking it down? There are several groups that have privilege. lets take christians. as a christian in this country I know that I am afforded more respect than my friend who are muslim. doesn't mean christianity is perfect, it is just respected more, and seen as "normal". Get it?

FYI, I will call EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU OUT. this is NOT 1950, 60, 70, or 80. No more getting to say random, racist, whoa is me crap in peace. The only safe place for you to spew your hatred is at home alone with your other friends. Read. Learn. Try to see that it's not all about you.

Now can we PLEASE get back to soccer?
 
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