Girls Development Academy

NoGoal said:
Um, the discussion was Blues-Baker and you posted can't play older meatheads at the club. Meaning Blues older teams. You had no reference to Strikers!

Have you bothered to look up the Blues-Baker teams ECNL record in the U16 and U15 age group? They are both undefeated! As I posted, they will be fine not playing Girls DA. If you know the history of the Bakers you will know their Breakaway team didn't play CSL Premier or National League for a year (before ECNL took off). They did some sort of college campus tour throughout the state instead. The team came back the following year and still performed at a high level, beating top clubs you mentioned.
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Just watch out for flying clipboards that hit girls in the face!
 
Dos Equis said:
The application/contract signed by each club's DOC when the applied to DA specifically required they place their best players in the club onto the DA teams. It was (and still is) online, so you can look it up. It spoke volumes about how US Soccer viewed the role of the parent/player in the actual decision making process of controlling their own development. Arrogant is a word that comes to mind.

What is not surprising is that clubs who were awarded DA did not make this clear to their members/players at that time nor during tryouts. Likely clubs also asked themselves how that provision would be enforced, decided it would be difficult, at best, for US Soccer to do so, so they ignored it. Good for them.

As for Baker Blues and other '02 and up ECNL teams, my bet is that ECNL continues to be a stronger league than DA for these age groups, by a wide margin, even in Socal.
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Some good points. I think ECNL ruling the roost for the next few years is a stretch. I anticipate an immediate negative impact on ECNL, especially in the SW conference, starting August 1, 2017. Just watch, teams like Heat and even newbie DMC will "all of a sudden" be able to compete. Maybe even sneak into the ECNL champions league. Let's revisit this in about a year or so when the 2017-2018 season is coming to a close. I have zero problem admitting when I am wrong but in this case, I just dont see it happening.

Unless the Baker Bros go their own way, I think we just might see them coaching a couple GDA teams starting in August.
 
Striker17 said:
Re certain coaches:
Certain coaches don't have an A license and can't do a DA
Certain coaches let their A License lapse so other certain baby coaches are "helping out"
I hope that helps @GoWest
Things really aren't complicated. Everything is spin and so it's important to dig deeper as to why certain decisions are being made
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Agree! Thanks for the clarification.
 
Striker17 said:
You know how much I respect you. In my line of business we recognize patterns as well- in only six years of this I have seen patterns which is why I can so unemotionally watch and react to this club soccer silliness. To me the results and end game are clear. I also see very clear patterns occurring right now that I am shocked other people can not recognize as a seismic shift. That to me is the BAFFLING concern.
I think what needs to be stated here is the concept of credibility. You have a daughter at the upper echelon and so you have credibility . Your experience and view is valuable. A lot of people making commentary do not and to the gentle reader that needs to be exposed for what it is- garbage.
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I do not think anyone who has a player active is truly unemotional or objective -- we all have opinions based on experiences and personal goals. I would be interested in your insight into the results and endgame, though, since the appear to be clear.

While US Soccer has clearly shaken things up, I do not think anyone who has been part of this for a long time would make a prediction, or view this as some sort of paradigm shift, yet. ECNL, in the end, was not. The better coaches, clubs and organizations stayed at the top, they just wore a different patch. Yes a few rise, a few fall, but no seismic event.

And in the end, it will be the players and parents who decide. US Soccer is going to figure that out.
 
GoWest said:
Some good points. I think ECNL ruling the roost for the next few years is a stretch. I anticipate an immediate negative impact on ECNL, especially in the SW conference, starting August 1, 2017. Just watch, teams like Heat and even newbie DMC will "all of a sudden" be able to compete. Maybe even sneak into the ECNL champions league. Let's revisit this in about a year or so when the 2017-2018 season is coming to a close. I have zero problem admitting when I am wrong but in this case, I just dont see it happening.

Unless the Baker Bros go their own way, I think we just might see them coaching a couple GDA teams starting in August.
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Dos Equis stated those age groups as in Uolders will still rule the roost for a few years.
 
Striker17 said:
Re certain coaches:
Certain coaches don't have an A license and can't do a DA
Certain coaches let their A License lapse so other certain baby coaches are "helping out"
I hope that helps @GoWest
Things really aren't complicated. Everything is spin and so it's important to dig deeper as to why certain decisions are being made
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This is not accurate. I believe US Soccer is giving the DA coaches a couple of years to obtain their A license. I know a Girls DA club in which only the DOC has an A license.
 
Dos Equis said:
The application/contract signed by each club's DOC when the applied to DA specifically required they place their best players in the club onto the DA teams. It was (and still is) online, so you can look it up. It spoke volumes about how US Soccer viewed the role of the parent/player in the actual decision making process of controlling their own development. Arrogant is a word that comes to mind.

What is not surprising is that clubs who were awarded DA did not make this clear to their members/players at that time nor during tryouts. Likely clubs also asked themselves how that provision would be enforced, decided it would be difficult, at best, for US Soccer to do so, so they ignored it. Good for them.

As for Baker Blues and other '02 and up ECNL teams, my bet is that ECNL continues to be a stronger league than DA for these age groups, by a wide margin, even in Socal.
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For the clubs that do not follow the US Soccer mandate about the top players playing in GDA, 2 things will happen:
1. Probation
2. Elimination

The BDA clubs tried this because players, who were committed, wanted to play high school and stay with their regular teams and not participate in BDA. After Step #1 above, they all fell in line and started following the mandates because they all feared #2.

US Soccer isn't going to let clubs with teams like the Baker's decide to opt out of GDA. As soon as they catch wind of this #1 is coming with demands for immediate changes.
You also have to imagine that if this does start happening nationally, US Soccer will find a way to eliminate ECNL altogether. Call them bullies but they do have all the power. Right or wrong it is what it is.
 
Striker17 said:
Re certain coaches:
Certain coaches don't have an A license and can't do a DA
Certain coaches let their A License lapse so other certain baby coaches are "helping out"
I hope that helps @GoWest
Things really aren't complicated. Everything is spin and so it's important to dig deeper as to why certain decisions are being made
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Here is the website!

It's the #7 question on application facts.
http://www.ussoccerda.com/girls-academy-faqs
 
NoGoal said:
Dos Equis stated those age groups as in Uolders will still rule the roost for a few years.
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I caught that too. I still stand by my position even in the "olders" age groups. U17 LAFC / Slammers (or whatever they are going to be called in the GDA) for instance are moving their elite players (and adding a couple elite players no doubt) to GDA. So, after winning back-to-back ECNL national championships at U14 and U15 (team stayed pretty much the same skipping U16 do to age change in 2016) and leading the SW conference so far this season, I'm pretty sure the 2017-2018 ECNL season will be a bit more challenging for them. The rosters will tell the full story in the end. Of course, it's just my opinion but I will look to around this time next year to see if I laid an egg.
 
dreamz said:
For the clubs that do not follow the US Soccer mandate about the top players playing in GDA, 2 things will happen:
1. Probation
2. Elimination

The BDA clubs tried this because players, who were committed, wanted to play high school and stay with their regular teams and not participate in BDA. After Step #1 above, they all fell in line and started following the mandates because they all feared #2.

US Soccer isn't going to let clubs with teams like the Baker's decide to opt out of GDA. As soon as they catch wind of this #1 is coming with demands for immediate changes.
You also have to imagine that if this does start happening nationally, US Soccer will find a way to eliminate ECNL altogether. Call them bullies but they do have all the power. Right or wrong it is what it is.
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US Soccer will find a way to eliminate ECNL altogether? I didn't know US soccer was the mafia, lmao!
 
GoWest said:
I caught that too. I still stand by my position even in the "olders" age groups. U17 LAFC / Slammers (or whatever they are going to be called in the GDA) for instance are moving their elite players (and adding a couple elite players no doubt) to GDA. So, after winning back-to-back ECNL national championships at U14 and U15 (team stayed pretty much the same skipping U16 do to age change in 2016) and leading the SW conference so far this season, I'm pretty sure the 2017-2018 ECNL season will be a bit more challenging for them. Of course, it's just my opinion but I will look to around this time next year to see if I laid an egg.
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This is your 3rd or 4th post referencing Slammers. My guess is you're DD plays for Slammers.
 
GoWest said:
Some good points. I think ECNL ruling the roost for the next few years is a stretch. I anticipate an immediate negative impact on ECNL, especially in the SW conference, starting August 1, 2017. Just watch, teams like Heat and even newbie DMC will "all of a sudden" be able to compete. Maybe even sneak into the ECNL champions league. Let's revisit this in about a year or so when the 2017-2018 season is coming to a close. I have zero problem admitting when I am wrong but in this case, I just dont see it happening.

Unless the Baker Bros go their own way, I think we just might see them coaching a couple GDA teams starting in August.
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Well on the website, it shows they will be in charge of the new 01/02 GDA team, but they are also keeping their ECNL teams, which we will see what players are on and I think that is the debate here rather than IF the Baker Bros will coach a DA team.
 
PLSAP said:
Well on the website, it shows they will be in charge of the new 01/02 GDA team, but they are also keeping their ECNL teams, which we will see what players are on and I think that is the debate here rather than IF the Baker Bros will coach a DA team.
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The DA will have the current ECNL players. Don't listen to message board noobs. My DD is playing DA.
 
GoWest said:
Some good points. I think ECNL ruling the roost for the next few years is a stretch. I anticipate an immediate negative impact on ECNL, especially in the SW conference, starting August 1, 2017. Just watch, teams like Heat and even newbie DMC will "all of a sudden" be able to compete. Maybe even sneak into the ECNL champions league. Let's revisit this in about a year or so when the 2017-2018 season is coming to a close. I have zero problem admitting when I am wrong but in this case, I just dont see it happening.

Unless the Baker Bros go their own way, I think we just might see them coaching a couple GDA teams starting in August.
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Are you saying that players 14-22 aren't good enough to make champions league?

As a parent I would certainly want to know where my dd is 1-18 before I would commit. Seriously that's a lot of time, money, and effort to be all in for a player that's number 11 per the coach.

@GoWest I'm unsure why you are so sold on something that hasn't even started and doesn't have receipts. Don't take it as a knock against you, I just don't get you constantly going to bat for something that only looks half way decent on paper.

Most parents that I know going into this aren't thrilled about GDA. It's been more of a wait and see approach.

You can't automatically assume it's the best because "they" said so.
 
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