Pateadores Girls DA 03/04 - Observations

There is not much new info to share from last night's training session (which was invitation only). NP stated that the Academy II League will happen for 2017/2018. He stated 9 programs have agreed to join the Academy II league (not new info). He also confirmed the AZ team in the SW Conference will not be a part of the Academy II league.

He said that two unnamed ECNL teams in So Cal are considering dropping ECNL to focus exclusively on GDA. Curious who those programs are?

He also confirmed that Pats will have an 03 and 04 Academy I team along with an 03 and 04 Academy II team for 2017. Both Academy I teams will be fully funded.

The Academy I players cannot play HS soccer, but the Academy II players can play HS soccer. The Academy II teams will go "dark" during the HS season.

The next open tryout is January 29th at Laguna Hills HS.

Last thing I remember from last night was NP stating that the Academy II teams would be close to fully formed a couple of weeks after the 29th open tryout. The Academy I teams will not be finalized until later, which I think is code for......"we want a lot of ECNL players for our Academy I teams and those players will wait until the ECNL season is over before choosing".
 
bababooey said:
There is not much new info to share from last night's training session (which was invitation only). NP stated that the Academy II League will happen for 2017/2018. He stated 9 programs have agreed to join the Academy II league (not new info). He also confirmed the AZ team in the SW Conference will not be a part of the Academy II league.

He said that two unnamed ECNL teams in So Cal are considering dropping ECNL to focus exclusively on GDA. Curious who those programs are?

He also confirmed that Pats will have an 03 and 04 Academy I team along with an 03 and 04 Academy II team for 2017. Both Academy I teams will be fully funded.

The Academy I players cannot play HS soccer, but the Academy II players can play HS soccer. The Academy II teams will go "dark" during the HS season.

The next open tryout is January 29th at Laguna Hills HS.

Last thing I remember from last night was NP stating that the Academy II teams would be close to fully formed a couple of weeks after the 29th open tryout. The Academy I teams will not be finalized until later, which I think is code for......"we want a lot of ECNL players for our Academy I teams and those players will wait until the ECNL season is over before choosing".
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Thank you for the updates. Greatly appreciated.
 
bababooey said:
He said that two unnamed ECNL teams in So Cal are considering dropping ECNL to focus exclusively on GDA. Curious who those programs are?
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Soccer123 said:
Gulp....I wonder which 2? Maybe 2 clubs that realize they can't field 2 top teams with 30-35 studs?
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Wow, that would be quite a blow to the Southwest Conference. If the ECNL goes from 8 Southern CA clubs to only 6, I have to think that would hurt their long term future as a viable league.
 
bababooey said:
There is not much new info to share from last night's training session (which was invitation only). NP stated that the Academy II League will happen for 2017/2018. He stated 9 programs have agreed to join the Academy II league (not new info). He also confirmed the AZ team in the SW Conference will not be a part of the Academy II league.

He said that two unnamed ECNL teams in So Cal are considering dropping ECNL to focus exclusively on GDA. Curious who those programs are?

He also confirmed that Pats will have an 03 and 04 Academy I team along with an 03 and 04 Academy II team for 2017. Both Academy I teams will be fully funded.

The Academy I players cannot play HS soccer, but the Academy II players can play HS soccer. The Academy II teams will go "dark" during the HS season.

The next open tryout is January 29th at Laguna Hills HS.

Last thing I remember from last night was NP stating that the Academy II teams would be close to fully formed a couple of weeks after the 29th open tryout. The Academy I teams will not be finalized until later, which I think is code for......"we want a lot of ECNL players for our Academy I teams and those players will wait until the ECNL season is over before choosing".
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So from what you understand will the 9 DA-II teams just simply play each other in their own league?
 
Justafan said:
You mean DA-II will be the new ECNL. If the next level players go DA-II, ECNL will be dead.
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Just guessing here, Clubs with both DA and ECNL would not have DA-II teams I'm assuming. Also, looking at strictly cost and coaching need the two clubs that may end ECNL could be Blues and who else?? Galaxy? I don't see Slammers with 4 million affiliates nor West Coast.
 
I think it would have to Slammers and/or West Coast. They need all of those teams to offer a fully funded or reduced cost DA program. Blues (while a great club) would have a hard time financing those teams.
How many clubs with DA also have High School coaches on the roster?
 
Justafan said:
You mean DA-II will be the new ECNL. If the next level players go DA-II, ECNL will be dead.
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So should we assume that besides Arsenal & Strikers, the majority of top Ecnl players will be the new Da, Egsl & lower level Ecnl players will be the new Da-II, and the 3rd team players will be the new Ecnl? I think Ecnl is getting the raw end of this. Better coaching, more development, and more opportunities playing Da-II rather than Ecnl? Ecnl coaches next season for the most part are the egsl coaches this season. :( To think that any club has 45 studs to field 3 top teams is super crazy and doesn't exist anywhere. Da will be super competitive next season, Da-II will be competitive based on scdsl results this season, and Ecnl will be the least competitive with Arsenal and Strikers beating everyone by large numbers. I personally think clubs should have Da OR ecnl, based on the amount of Da clubs, there is not enough talent to go around. It sure will be interesting to see how this all plays out and who ends up having the stronger league.
 
Justafan said:
So from what you understand will the 9 DA-II teams just simply play each other in their own league?
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From what I understand, the DA Academy II league will not be a part of CSL, Presidio, SCDSL, etc. It will be a new league that serves only the DA II teams. There are only 9 teams at this point that have said "yes" to the new league, but they could add others as there are 13 total GDA teams in the SW Division.
 
Hired Gun said:
Just guessing here, Clubs with both DA and ECNL would not have DA-II teams I'm assuming. Also, looking at strictly cost and coaching need the two clubs that may end ECNL could be Blues and who else?? Galaxy? I don't see Slammers with 4 million affiliates nor West Coast.
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There will be some clubs that have both GDA and ECNL and will participate in the DA II league. As to which clubs, we will see soon.
 
Soccer123 said:
So should we assume that besides Arsenal & Strikers, the majority of top Ecnl players will be the new Da, Egsl & lower level Ecnl players will be the new Da-II, and the 3rd team players will be the new Ecnl? I think Ecnl is getting the raw end of this. Better coaching, more development, and more opportunities playing Da-II rather than Ecnl? Ecnl coaches next season for the most part are the egsl coaches this season. :( To think that any club has 45 studs to field 3 top teams is super crazy and doesn't exist anywhere. Da will be super competitive next season, Da-II will be competitive based on scdsl results this season, and Ecnl will be the least competitive with Arsenal and Strikers beating everyone by large numbers. I personally think clubs should have Da OR ecnl, based on the amount of Da clubs, there is not enough talent to go around. It sure will be interesting to see how this all plays out and who ends up having the stronger league.
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This is my thought on the GDA versus ECNL debate. What do us as parents feel is best for our dd's? I think the general consensus now is that ECNL is the top playing circuit for girls. If that mentality changes (which I think it will) and parents say that DA I is the top playing circuit, then many of the current ECNL players will migrate to GDA teams. The clubs that have both GDA and ECNL will be okay with these changes. That is why I think Strikers and Arsenal are the most vulnerable to these changes. Both of the 03 ECNL teams for these two clubs are very strong. If the impact players from Strikers and Arsenal move to a GDA club, how strong will the ECNL teams be next season?

This is just my opinion, but when GDA decided to have dedicated 04 Academy I teams for 2017, the GDA effectively killed off ECNL as the top playing circuit for girls. Time will tell and I have been wrong many times before, but it just seems like US Soccer is saying they want control over the top boys and girls in the USA.
 
Bit of a right turn on this thread - But with the DA model (more practice, no multi-game days, less games in a short period, etc) how will this trickle down to the rest of the club world?
Will tournament formats change to spread out the games across more days? Will lower tiered players go and play rec instead? Will club coaches that are part of a DA club still be coaching high school? (IE - is there a conflict of interest?).
 
bababooey said:
This is my thought on the GDA versus ECNL debate. What do us as parents feel is best for our dd's? I think the general consensus now is that ECNL is the top playing circuit for girls. If that mentality changes (which I think it will) and parents say that DA I is the top playing circuit, then many of the current ECNL players will migrate to GDA teams. The clubs that have both GDA and ECNL will be okay with these changes. That is why I think Strikers and Arsenal are the most vulnerable to these changes. Both of the 03 ECNL teams for these two clubs are very strong. If the impact players from Strikers and Arsenal move to a GDA club, how strong will the ECNL teams be next season?

This is just my opinion, but when GDA decided to have dedicated 04 Academy I teams for 2017, the GDA effectively killed off ECNL as the top playing circuit for girls. Time will tell and I have been wrong many times before, but it just seems like US Soccer is saying they want control over the top boys and girls in the USA.
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Well said bababooey! Crazy times for sure ahead.
 
timbuck said:
Bit of a right turn on this thread - But with the DA model (more practice, no multi-game days, less games in a short period, etc) how will this trickle down to the rest of the club world?
Will tournament formats change to spread out the games across more days? Will lower tiered players go and play rec instead? Will club coaches that are part of a DA club still be coaching high school? (IE - is there a conflict of interest?).
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How will DA affect Tournaments? Can DA-I Teams play tournaments?
 
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