ODP

devupa2.0 said:
Wait, I thought ODP was a formal tryout for Surf. Am I missing something?
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Interesting comment - one of the experiences of my youth-soccer-parenting days was the dismissal of an assistant coach from the ODP staff for recruiting at practice. "Why aren't you guys playing with us at Surf?"
 
They way you atleast try to slow it down is to do give and go's with the opposing team knowing that they will give it right back to you. . It would be an attempt.

Kicker4Life said:
You make a valid point, but you put those "reserve players in at 4 or 5 - 0. Let them play full speed ahead. At 10-0 you've got to do something to slow it down.
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jsmaxwell said:
How many college coaches are watching 12 yr olds play? Seriously curious.
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I have no idea what that answer is, but if I were a college coach, I would try to watch every Cal South team play at least one game at these ODP events. Why not make a list of players to watch in the coming years? If you are a college coach and wait until these players are juniors or seniors in HS, you probably won't get a chance to bring them to your school (unless you are one of the powerhouses around the country).
 
bababooey said:
I have no idea what that answer is, but if I were a college coach, I would try to watch every Cal South team play at least one game at these ODP events. Why not make a list of players to watch in the coming years? If you are a college coach and wait until these players are juniors or seniors in HS, you probably won't get a chance to bring them to your school (unless you are one of the powerhouses around the country).
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2004 = 6-7 grade. HS junior = 1999-2000. Just seems a bit early to me.
 
Kicker4Life said:
You have waaayyy more experience at this than I so I'll ask the question.....does a 20-0 score line impress a D1 coach? I would think after 6-0 they would move on to a more competative match up.
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jsmaxwell said:
How many college coaches are watching 12 yr olds play? Seriously curious.
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Depends upon the college and the 12 year old. I know that wish lists start getting built and since freshmen in high school are now committing to college i would imagine that they saw them when they were in middle school. Cal South ODP players are highly prized by schools.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Depends upon the college and the 12 year old. I know that wish lists start getting built and since freshmen in high school are now committing to college i would imagine that they saw them when they were in middle school. Cal South ODP players are highly prized by schools.
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I do not believe any college coach is watching 6th or 7th graders, over the next 2 yrs these girls body types will be changing. Size and speed will be effected. It is a waste of time for college coaches.
 
krazysoccer said:
I do not believe any college coach is watching 6th or 7th graders, over the next 2 yrs these girls body types will be changing. Size and speed will be effected. It is a waste of time for college coaches.
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Don't believe it. I bet you also don't think that college soccer coaches ever read internet soccer forums. I know that they do. What grade is your player in? I can tell you at 12 and 13 I saw coaches watch not only games but the UCI coach would watch training sessions.
 
TCD said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/...ay-for-a-college-then-starting-9th-grade.html

from the article:
"Before Haley Berg was done with middle school, she had the numbers for 16 college soccer coaches programmed into the iPhone she protected with a Justin Bieber case.

She was all of 14, but Hales, as her friends call her, was already weighing offers to attend the University of Colorado, Texas A&M and the University of Texas, free of charge.

Haley is not a once-in-a-generation talent like LeBron James. She just happens to be a very good soccer player, and that is now valuable enough to set off a frenzy among college coaches, even when — or especially when — the athlete in question has not attended a day of high school. For Haley, the process ended last summer, a few weeks before ninth grade began, when she called the coach at Texas to accept her offer of a scholarship four years later."
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Not only is she not a once in a generation talent she isn't even a top 20 player in her birth year. I wouldn't waste your time trying to convince somebody who's mind is already made up. Even facts won't open a closed mind...
 
TCD said:
https://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/27/...ay-for-a-college-then-starting-9th-grade.html

from the article:
"Before Haley Berg was done with middle school, she had the numbers for 16 college soccer coaches programmed into the iPhone she protected with a Justin Bieber case.

She was all of 14, but Hales, as her friends call her, was already weighing offers to attend the University of Colorado, Texas A&M and the University of Texas, free of charge.

Haley is not a once-in-a-generation talent like LeBron James. She just happens to be a very good soccer player, and that is now valuable enough to set off a frenzy among college coaches, even when — or especially when — the athlete in question has not attended a day of high school. For Haley, the process ended last summer, a few weeks before ninth grade began, when she called the coach at Texas to accept her offer of a scholarship four years later."
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Saw article prior to post, she was 14 entering 9th grade, not 11,12 or 13 in 6th and 7th grade. I suggest you email Paul Ratcliffe at Stanford and ask how many 6th and 7th graders he has on his list of potential recruits. I know the answer.
 
MakeAPlay said:
Don't believe it. I bet you also don't think that college soccer coaches ever read internet soccer forums. I know that they do. What grade is your player in? I can tell you at 12 and 13 I saw coaches watch not only games but the UCI coach would watch training sessions.
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MakeAPlay said:
Don't believe it. I bet you also don't think that college soccer coaches ever read internet soccer forums. I know that they do. What grade is your player in? I can tell you at 12 and 13 I saw coaches watch not only games but the UCI coach would watch training sessions.
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Believe what you want, fact: Stanford and USC coaches not watching 12 yr old sessions, fact same coaches not reading your posts on soccer forum.
 
krazysoccer said:
Saw article prior to post, she was 14 entering 9th grade, not 11,12 or 13 in 6th and 7th grade. I suggest you email Paul Ratcliffe at Stanford and ask how many 6th and 7th graders he has on his list of potential recruits. I know the answer.
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And I suggest that you email Anson Dorrance and Chris Ducar and ask them how many they have on their list. I don't know the answer but it isn't zero. I have Paul's number so I won't bother to send him another email (he get's thousands from parents) but I will just ask him next time I see him. He was very nice when I saw him a couple of months ago. We had a nice chat.
 
jsmaxwell said:
2004 = 6-7 grade. HS junior = 1999-2000. Just seems a bit early to me.
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True on the 6/7th graders for sure - BUT they are definitely looking at Freshman for sure - and possibility the elite 8th graders of which some could already be in the U14 GNT pool.
 
krazysoccer said:
Believe what you want, fact: Stanford and USC coaches not watching 12 yr old sessions, fact same coaches not reading your posts on soccer forum.
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Did I say my posts per se? Reread my post. I said that they read internet soccer forums. I know this 100% as I have had conversations with more than one coach that does read several soccer forums. You can believe whatever you want to believe. It doesn't change anything. I honestly don't care what the $C coaches do or don't do. Their team plays kickball.
 
krazysoccer said:
Saw article prior to post, she was 14 entering 9th grade, not 11,12 or 13 in 6th and 7th grade. I suggest you email Paul Ratcliffe at Stanford and ask how many 6th and 7th graders he has on his list of potential recruits. I know the answer.
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Sigh. Never let facts get in the way of a debate. If you read the article, you will see that she was recruited beginning in 7th grade. She committed before entering 9th grade.
Again, not saying I think this is a good thing but to your original post - yes, coaches are watching the 04 age group.
 
The best part about this thread is that is woke the forum up.

I can't wait until DA movement begins and players start to move for the shiny new toy!
 
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