Age Split.....What are you going to do?

Simisoccerfan said:
It is really impossible to have a UC gpa (the one they use for admissions) of 4.8 since they cap AP/IB classes at 8 semesters for the extra point on your grade. You also required to take PE in the 10th grade which can only be a 4.0. If the student played sports they also had this for the 11th grade. So 4.4 is about as high as you can get. So for a 4.8 they have to be including more AP/IB classes and not counting other types of classes such as Health, Computers, etc. that are required for HS graduation. So they are being selective in what they include to say that gpa.
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Actually cap UC GPA is a 4.33. However most UCs will look at the uncapped GPA. Each UC has a document listing what they look at and how important it is. It is not on their general webpage but you can find a link to a PFd with that info.
 
Josep said:
I’m not the child’s parent. I’m going by what I was told. I used it as scenario of, what if colleges told kids explicitly, we will penalize you if you use classes for sports after the requirement (10th grade).

It’s purely hypothetical.

The bottom line is, if your kid is wants to play HS, don’t put them in a league or level where that’s prohibited.

Nobody is forced to play DA with a gun to their heads. If this thing goes forward with DPL, nobody will force a gun to the head of a child to choose between that and HS.
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If it is purely hypothetical say that and don't scare parents.
 
Lambchop said:
As a freshman it is possible to have a 4.8 if you have all honors courses and get a waiver for PE. Yes, we all know that the UC system will only give the extra weighted grade for a maximum of four classes (8 semesters max), and they have to be in your junior and senior year I believe, but that doesn't mean that the high school only calculates the 8 semesters when determining the hs gpa.Again, this would be for freshman and possibly sophomore years if they get the PE waiver, until they have to take computer class etc.
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As far as I know having three high school students our school (and I believe others also) only gives the extra weight to AP and IB classes not to Honors classes. UC/CS schools also don't weight Honors classes.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
As far as I know having three high school students our school (and I believe others also) only gives the extra weight to AP and IB classes not to Honors classes. UC/CS schools also don't weight Honors classes.
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Wrong UCs give weight to honors classes for In State students but not OUT of State students. But the honors classes must be on the UC approved list which should be all classes your school is calling honors.
 
Fact said:
If it is purely hypothetical say that and don't scare parents.
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The academic stats I presented were very real. A boy in Orange County. That wasn't hypothetical. But that’s not really the focal point of my statement, which was what if hypothetically colleges put down the hammer in playing sports in HS. Families would still have to decide.

Everyone has a choice. Don’t play DPL if it takes away precious HS or doesn’t offer value. I’d be very skeptical and opt for ECNL.
 
Fact said:
No this is what you said:
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I suppose you need education on a) the word allegedly, and b) how to interpret an argument where multipme statements form an argument - in this case reinforcing the uncertainty of said DPL. But I’m not going to continue with your semantics game.
 
Josep said:
I’m not the child’s parent. I’m going by what I was told. I used it as scenario of, what if colleges told kids explicitly, we will penalize you if you use classes for sports after the requirement (10th grade).

It’s purely hypothetical.
HS.
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Did he or did he not apply to Santa Cruz and Merced?
 
Josep said:
The academic stats I presented were very real. A boy in Orange County. That wasn't hypothetical. But that’s not really the focal point of my statement, which was what if hypothetically colleges put down the hammer in playing sports in HS.
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Did he or did he not apply to Santa Cruz and Merced?
 
Josep said:
Look. You want to play for fun - go play HS.

We know a kid that played sports, got a 4.8 gpa 1550 SAT, and 35 ACT and he was denied by every UC school.

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Nothing worse than a dude that gets caught is a bold faced lie and then tries to change his story. Now, its a hypothetical? You're full of sh*t! Here is what is more interesting to me.... What I understand from the above statement is that you have no idea what you are talking about, leading me to believe that you have not been through, or understand the process, which indicates to me that while you may or may not have a kid having a blast in NC, there are kids back here working towards admission to the university of their choice. Sounds to me like yours just might be the best skilled players at your local community college. I could be wrong but that is how I read your post.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
As far as I know having three high school students our school (and I believe others also) only gives the extra weight to AP and IB classes not to Honors classes. UC/CS schools also don't weight Honors classes.
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As I said, UC system will only count the weighted classes in junior and senior year although they do look at the course load at all grades.Bottom line, good luck to all the students working hard on the field and in the classroom to achieve their dreams.
 
Overtime said:
Who said DPL highest level? In some areas it is the next best level after DA where ECNL is not an option. That’s all.
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At least in the older age groups, there are plenty of CSL teams and SCDSL teams that beat DPL teams regularly. Look at CRL standings. Look at Vegas Showcase results. My guess is that National Cup will show that there are other clubs that have teams that play high level soccer too.
 
Lambchop said:
As I said, UC system will only count the weighted classes in junior and senior year although they do look at the course load at all grades.
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Wrong. Most of the time UCs don't see senior year grades unless you are asked for an update (up to 10-15 percent ) or waitlisted. Sophomore grades are weighted.
 
Lambchop said:
As I said, UC system will only count the weighted classes in junior and senior year although they do look at the course load at all grades.Bottom line, good luck to all the students working hard on the field and in the classroom to achieve their dreams.
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Stand corrected, only Sophomore and Junior year for calculating weighted grades, however some top private schools do not. Also, depending upon your high school, public or private, some don't count weighted grades at all.
 
Fact said:
Wrong UCs give weight to honors classes for In State students but not OUT of State students. But the honors classes must be on the UC approved list which should be all classes your school is calling honors.
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Here is the link to see what classes are weighted. Just plug in your high school and the year you took the class (very important because as we found out class descriptions can change from year to year.)

https://hs-articulation.ucop.edu/agcourselist#/list/search/institution
 
Dummy said:
At least in the older age groups, there are plenty of CSL teams and SCDSL teams that beat DPL teams regularly. Look at CRL standings. Look at Vegas Showcase results. My guess is that National Cup will show that there are other clubs that have teams that play high level soccer too.
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Completely agree. Depends on what part of So Cal you are in.
 
Simisoccerfan said:
It is really impossible to have a UC gpa (the one they use for admissions) of 4.8 since they cap AP/IB classes at 8 semesters for the extra point on your grade. You also required to take PE in the 10th grade which can only be a 4.0. If the student played sports they also had this for the 11th grade. So 4.4 is about as high as you can get. So for a 4.8 they have to be including more AP/IB classes and not counting other types of classes such as Health, Computers, etc. that are required for HS graduation. So they are being selective in what they include to say that gpa.
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I have known plenty of kids that take a full load of six AP classes and then participate in their sport after school. It is very common at our high school.
 
Fact said:
Actually cap UC GPA is a 4.33. However most UCs will look at the uncapped GPA. Each UC has a document listing what they look at and how important it is. It is not on their general webpage but you can find a link to a PFd with that info.
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Is this what you are talking about? Section C7 lists the factors UC Irvine considers. Surprisingly it is different for each UC. Just google the UC name and "common data set"

http://www.oir.uci.edu/files/campus/CDS2016_17.pdf
 
Nefutous said:
I have known plenty of kids that take a full load of six AP classes and then participate in their sport after school. It is very common at our high school.
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My dd has a similar scheduled with 6 IB/AP classes but only 8 semester classes get the extra GPA. They only count the classes listed on the link above and only the classes with the Gold Star get the extra gpa. No honors classes get this at our HS.
 
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