So how are things? Tell usI’d say we have soft kids, but really there are a ton of soft parents in club soccer. Good grief. No clue of how things are.
Totally agree with In the Valley! Same goes with my kid's AP teacher compared to Baker. They push cuz they expect to get the best result out of their student. Life isn't easy and if you keep trying to soften every step for your kid, the real world will be very difficult! I wish all teams got the same Coaches on the sideline as Baker does. He obviously knows how to get his players to the next level. The best part of playing the Baker teams in any showcase is the opportunity for my kid to step up their game and get looked at by some top notch coaches![/QUOTE
A lot of coaches get their players looked at by top notch college coaches!
Does a male DA coach that grabs an 18 year old by the shoulders during a game and shakes her like a baby while yelling in her face from two inches count as bullying or assault or both? This is the caliber of coaching we get in Arizona.
Does a male DA coach that grabs an 18 year old by the shoulders during a game and shakes her like a baby while yelling in her face from two inches count as bullying or assault or both? This is the caliber of coaching we get in Arizona.
That counts as someone looking to get clocked right in the nose!Does a male DA coach that grabs an 18 year old by the shoulders during a game and shakes her like a baby while yelling in her face from two inches count as bullying or assault or both? This is the caliber of coaching we get in Arizona.
If I see someone lays hands on one of my kids like that, they better be looking around for me running across the field and forcing my way in between the player and coach. I will not allow anyone to teach my kids that it is OK to endure physical abuse. There is a good chance I would stick up for my kid's teammates as well.Does a male DA coach that grabs an 18 year old by the shoulders during a game and shakes her like a baby while yelling in her face from two inches count as bullying or assault or both? This is the caliber of coaching we get in Arizona.
Good to know, since it's the DA tryout season with this club. Is this frequent behavior?
So how are things? Tell us
Good to know, since it's the DA tryout season with this club. Is this frequent behavior?
In other words, there is no lawsuit. Maybe a complaint or a letter. So why did you say this in your original post?
"A USSDA club has had a lawsuit brought against them for, "unlawful bullying and mental and psychological abuse of players" by coaches employed by the club."
What is your agenda?
My agenda? OK, you got me, you found my out -- my agenda is to bring down the whole DA by spreading a rumor about a DA club who bullied players. Too bad I slipped and said, "has had a lawsuit filed" instead of "is having a lawsuit filed" and now I've been found out. Wow, you are just to sharp for me, and you have now foiled my plan.
My agenda? OK, you got me, you found my out -- my agenda is to bring down the whole DA by spreading a rumor about a DA club who bullied players. Too bad I slipped and said, "has had a lawsuit filed" instead of "is having a lawsuit filed" and now I've been found out. Wow, you are just to sharp for me, and you have now foiled my plan.
Historically verbally abusive coach but will obviously become physical. He has called girls sluts, cunt, tells them they are fucking stupid. He singles out individual kids for his abuse. It is not the entire team but the entire team does witness it. It definitely puts divisiveness among the team. During the game as he trolls the sidelines, he will say out loud things like "did you see that bad touch, she is terrible, that pass was fucking retarded, I don't know why she is on the team", etc.). He is the director of the only DA in Arizona. The same behavior was happening 10+ years ago but he is still around abusing children and adults. Too bad that kid was 18 or DCS would have been called. Parents are scared of the DA Director of course. He has no problem taking it out on his players. One parent lodges a complaint and he will start the psychological abuse. Just ask some of the kids that tried to play or did play high school. He went so far as to call and threaten to call verbally committed DA players’ college coaches as a means to threaten their scholarship. He took captain away from a player because she was “considering” playing high school. It is why nobody complains. I guess it’s parents messed up way to keep their kid safe so they can play at the highest level.
Oh, and you know what is sadder. The younger kids all dream of playing for him. After all, he coached Leroux, Ertz, and Turnbow. It is OK. He does not abuse everyone. Just certain ones.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news...rship-backed-players-but-at-what-cost-6393255
Look, Bananacorner, when you accuse people of doing things, then accuracy counts. I don't support abusive coaches and neither does anyone on this Board. But nobody supports people who scream out factually incorrect statements concerning abusive coaches. Stick to the truth and you'll be fine.
Bully Style: (Intent is to demean for no purpose other than to hurt)
"Hey dumbass, how many times to I need to tell you to push your fat ass up the field and get wide."
"Are you an idiot?"
"Bobby, grow an f'ing pair and challenge, unless you want to be moved to the Girls U8 team."
@toucan, @ElClasico and @espola,
In @Bananacorner's defense, he/she did not "accuse" anybody doing things, did not name the offending club or coach and refused to breach the confidentiality to which he/she was entrusted. Which, is fine by me because naming names would simply be gossip if the matter is not in the public record. Clearly he/she made an error is stating a "lawsuit had been filed," and then claiming its not public, but this fact is really irrelevant to the discussion and questions.
If you go back and look at the original post, the understanding that a lawsuit was filed that was citing some article was merely to set up the four questions he/she asked, which were:
The above questions are fair and this type of discussion is good. Whether the "claims" are at the pre-litigation or litigation stage is inconsequential.
- Who determines when a coach goes too far?
- When is a coach "too tough" and when does aggressive coaching cross the line from motivating to destructive?
- And does it differ by kid?
- How is a coach to know where that line is to try and get the most out of their players?
Bottom line is there are plenty of resources out there to help coaches and parents understand where that "line" is.